I'm not arguing that religious interests are playing a predominant role over
financial interests in driving the neocon agenda -- I am arguing that they are
playing a significant role.
You provide no documented evidence or facts to support your assertions and no
specific pointers to the persons and organizations who are running this alleged
British conspiracy.
The British elite press has itself suggested that British oil may be a big
loser as the result of the Iraq War, with Russia and China coming out as
winners. The British government is strongly opposed to the Iran War which the
Israeli government and Israel lobby are pushing with such fervor. The Brits
certainly do not control the American mainstream media. The British empire has
been in radical decline since World War II.
Can you articulate any British op vectors that are as persuasive in
explaining the behavior of the Bush 43 administration as these?
1. Israeli op > AEI > Bush 43 > Iraq War
2. Israeli op > AIPAC > Dick Cheney > Bush 43 > Iraq War
3. Israeli op > Arthur Sulzberger Jr. > New York Times > Iraq War
4. Israeli op > Arthur Sulzberger Jr. > New York Times > Judith Miller > Iraq
War
5. Israeli op > Arthur Sulzberger Jr. > New York Times > Thomas Friedman > Iraq
War
6. Israeli op > Donald Graham > Washington Post > Charles Krauthammer > Iraq War
7. Israeli op > Donald Graham > Washington Post > Iraq War
8. Israeli op > Donald Graham > Washington Post > Robert Kagan > Iraq War
9. Israeli op > Jack Straw > Tony Blair > Britain > Iraq War
10. Israeli op > JINSA > Bush 43 > Iraq War
11. Israeli op > John Hagee > Christian Zionism > Bush 43 > Iraq War
12. Israeli op > Lewis Libby > Dick Cheney > Bush 43 > Iraq War
13. Israeli op > Lord Michael Levy > Tony Blair > Britain > Iraq War
14. Israeli op > Michael Ledeen > Karl Rove > Bush 43 > Iraq War
15. Israeli op > Peter Mandelson > Tony Blair > Britain > Iraq War
16. Israeli op > PNAC > Bush 43 > Iraq War
17. Israeli op > Rupert Murdoch > Fox News > Bill O'Reilly > Iraq War
18. Israeli op > Rupert Murdoch > Tony Blair > Britain > Iraq War
19. Israeli op > Rupert Murdoch > Weekly Standard > William Kristol > Iraq War
British op > ?
Albert Underwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My problem with your hypothesis is that it assumes a religious
instigation of current world crisis should be considered over financial.
Ask yourself who benefitted directly from the Iraq war, and the answer is the
British. They got the US to regain their Iraq franchise for them, and noware
back in control of the Basra oil spigot.
Sure the IsUreallis beneiftted; they were co-conspirators, and have been Brit
lackeys for centuries. The Jews are once again being set up as the fall guys.
History repeats itself. Ask yourself why, if the IsUreallis are so democratic,
why their local politics doesn't match their mainstream media in terms of their
image and intentions. If the IsUrealli democratic process is as vigorous as
claimed, it would not ;reflect the current crop of leaders.
Furthermore, there are tons of incidents, in finance, industry, trade, etc,
where actions are rather clearly to IsUreal's disadvantage, suggesting wide
cracks in the theory that the "Jews" are in charge.
Remember, the main reason for overwhelming American concern for IsUreal and
Jews is the drumbeat of reinforcement for the results of the last time the Jews
were duped.
Sean McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I was on to the John Hagee issue months ago in this very group and warned
about the developing situation. Most conspiracy researchers are not paying
attention and are still digging around in oil industry issues to try to explain
the bizarre behavior of the neocon-controlled Bush/Cheney regime.
Do you appreciate that the official mainstream Israel lobby, including both
AIPAC and the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations,
is now completely in bed with Christian Zionists and Christian Armageddonists
who are actively seeking, with all their emotion and will, to drive the world
towards total destruction? What does this state of affairs say about the
essential character of Zionism as a whole? Hagee was received with great
enthusiasm at the latest AIPAC gathering. Videos of his speech -- and of
AIPAC's reaction -- are available across the net. Look up a few and savor the
fragrance of an Armageddonist cult in full rut.
This current crop of Armaggedonists, which includes George W. Bush, is armed
with an immense arsenal of weapons of mass destruction which it feels it is
entitled (even divinely commanded) to use preemptively.
The American mainstream media continue to cover up what is going on, in the
hope of getting on with a war against Iran. AIPAC's ties to John Hagee should
be a huge on-going story at the New York Times, the Washington Post, MSNBC, CNN
and other big media outlets.
LeaNder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Pastor strangelove is a strange fellow in AIPAC's bed indeed. You may
have forwarded Sarah Posner's article already? Pay careful attention to this:
Houaw of Worship Free Speech Restoration Act writes one of the evil Europeans:
Pastor Strangelove - and other networks of corruption
Pastor Strangelove
Texan John Hagee may not have his "perfect red heifer" yet. But he does have a
huge following, the ear of the White House -- and a theory that an invasion of
Iran was foretold in the Book of Esther.
By Sarah Posner
Issue Date: 06.06.06
...
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Although many Christians consider the money-centered word of faith theology to
be a form of heresy, the Republican Party has embraced TBN's audience as a
valuable constituency. ...
In his 1999 campaign memoir, Bush recalls feeling "spellbound" by the preaching
of Dallas-based TBN televangelist T.D. Jakes, whom he has since invited to
participate in official White House events. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist
has lauded TBN's efforts to expand its broadcasting into China. TBN's lawyer is
Colby May, who also serves as counsel to the American Center for Law and
Justice, a group founded by Pat Robertson, whose president Jay Sekulow, a
converted Jew, advised Bush on his Supreme Court nominees. May also represents
certain members of Congress on legislative initiatives and helped draft the
Houses of Worship Free Speech Restoration Act, which, if passed, would lift the
ban on electioneering from the pulpit. Its chief sponsor, Congressman Walter
Jones, a North Carolina Republican, has appeared on Praise the Lord to promote
the bill. Other guests on TBN programming have included Republican Senator
Lindsey Graham of South Carolina; Congressman Dana
Rohrabacher, a California Republican; Texas gop co-chairman David Barton; and
Oliver North, the radio host and Iran-Contra scandal celebrity.
Several years ago, after Crouch interviewed California Congressman Duke
Cunningham, he wrote in TBN's newsletter: "What a soul-winner he is! Every time
he shares his powerful testimony, lives are touched, and our SOULS TOTAL
soars!" That was long before Cunningham pleaded guilty to bribery and
conspiracy, and fell under suspicion of providing favors to a defense
contractor who sent him prostitutes via limousine.
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