Out of season and no license are two very different offenses though neither, taken by itself, is a huge deal. Just pointing out you had it wrong and if you wish to debate you should get your facts straight.
The boy was tasered. The probes were taped to the skin, the voltage was a reduced charge and the duration was shorter, but it was a taser. He was an 11 year old and it's inexcusable. The threat to the father-in-law was found to be true by the investigators, only not directly to him, hence no crime. Again, you are playing semantics when what was central to the discussion was Wooten's behavior, not if a crime was committed. Slow on the uptake meaning I held onto hope that you were actually interested in an honest, intelligent discussion far longer than you deserved. It's probably my inherent belief in the honesty and integrity of people in general. Alas, not everyone warrants such faith. On Sep 17, 4:10 am, "mike532 [ vote for America , vote against McCain ! ]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > lets see #1 he shot a moose out of season or with out the proper > licence . not much differernce to me but i will conside it was his > wife permit not his . > #2 he admited he ysed a training device onhis son which is not > tasering him but again i said i could see where some people might not > understand the diference . > #3 the treat to his father in law was not show to be true the only > evidence came from the palin family and is > suspect ! > and judging from your responses you are correct about your bring slow > on the up > take ! > On Sep 16, 5:35 pm, frankg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > It's whether, not weather, and no where did I comment on the severity > > of his punishment and whether it was sufficient. Stop making shit up. > > No one is falling for your obfuscation. > > > And you did get things wrong; > > > (1) You said he shot a moose out of season, however, the offense was > > shooting a moose w/o a license and it was in season. You were wrong. > > (2) You said it was rather doubtful he tasered his step-son but in > > fact he did taser him and admitted as much. You were wrong. > > (3) You misquoted what I said about the threat to his father-in-law > > and you refuse to admit you got it wrong. The threat was made, but > > since it wasn't made directly to his father-in-law it wasn't treated > > as a crime. That doesn't mean he didn't say it and in fact the > > investigation concluded he did say it. You're playing semantics to > > dismiss Wooten's behavior. > > > You're childish responses are predictable. I figure it's only a matter > > of time before you start saying "I know you are but what am I". > > > I should have learned from the time wasted trying to debate with you > > the beginning of life that you are either not interested or simply > > incapable of having an honest debate. But rest assured that, while I > > may sometimes be slow on the uptake, I do eventually get it and I > > don't figure to be wasting any more time with you. That should make us > > both happy, I guess. > > > On Sep 16, 3:26 am, "mike532 [ vote for America , vote against > > McCain ! ]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > he was investigated and punished for his violation of the rules . and > > > your opinion of weather he wasn't punished enough is imaterial . and i > > > didn't get anything wrong sparky i said i did not believe he tasered > > > his son and thathe was found inocent of most of the charges against > > > him while being punished for those he actualy did . it you who is a > > > disingenuous, bias hack with serious credibility issues.and palin is > > > indeed unfit for any office ! > > > > On Sep 15, 1:27 pm, frankg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > He drank beer while in his patrol car. He was also investigated for > > > > other alcohol related incidents, including being pulled over with > > > > alcohol on his breath (no field test being taken because he was a > > > > trooper). Not exactly model behavior for a trooper. > > > > > He shot a moose without a permit.. his wife had a permit, not him. The > > > > killing took place in season. Oops, you got that one wrong. > > > > > He tasered his step-son, he admitted it and he was found guilty of it > > > > by the investigation. That it was of a lower voltage and for a shorter > > > > duration is irrelevant. You should NOT do that to an 11 year old child > > > > under any circumstance and a responsible law enforcement officer would > > > > know that. Oops, you got that one wrong too. > > > > > As for making those threats towards his father-in-law, the > > > > investigation concluded he did make the comment but he hadn't > > > > committed a crime because he did not make the threat directly to the > > > > father-in-law. The bullet above notes specifically "He told others his > > > > father-in-law would "eat a fucking lead bullet" if he helped his > > > > daughter get an attorney for the divorce.". Oops, you must pay > > > > attention to the facts and what other people write. > > > > > I do try to stick with the facts and have done so here. It's you who > > > > seems to be factually challenged. > > > > > I notice you ignored the whole point of my post; namely your double > > > > standard. When people discuss the FACTS concerning Wooten you call it > > > > "lies and slander" yet you continue to do just that about Palin and > > > > her family. For example, you wrote “…palin still abused her authority > > > > is unfit for office any office .” even though Palin has not been found > > > > guilty of anything yet. > > > > > You’re a disingenuous, bias hack with serious credibility issues. > > > > > On Sep 13, 2:37 am, mike532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > he was found to have drank beer in his car and shot a moose out of > > > > > season . the one about tasering his son is rather doubtfull > > > > > considering his son still lives with him and he was found inocent of > > > > > threatening his exfather in law . do try and stick with facts . > > > > > > On Sep 12, 4:39 pm, frankg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Again, PA, you're being disingenuous. Wooten was investigated for 13 > > > > > > violations and was found to have either violated policy, broke the > > > > > > law > > > > > > or both on four of them. Specifically, he was guilty of; > > > > > > > • Wooten used a Taser on his 11 year old stepson. > > > > > > • He illegally shot a moose. > > > > > > • He drank beer in his patrol car on one occasion. > > > > > > • He told others his father-in-law would "eat a fucking lead bullet" > > > > > > if he helped his daughter get an attorney for the divorce. > > > > > > > You smear Palin and her family for minor drug usage, mostly in the > > > > > > past, but never mention Obama's own usage of pot and coke (also in > > > > > > the > > > > > > past). Meanwhile, you completely ignore what Wooten was guilty of or > > > > > > that he was at the center of a messy divorce and both sides acted > > > > > > inappropriately, something not at all unusual for messy divorces. By > > > > > > now everyone understand that if this situation played out in the > > > > > > Obama > > > > > > family your 'editorializing' would be entirely different. How would > > > > > > you feel if your nephew was tasered by your brother-in-law who then > > > > > > says your father will eat a fucking lead bullet if he helps your > > > > > > sister get an attorney? > > > > > > > Notice how Mike responds with "when did false accusations and > > > > > > slander > > > > > > become free speech ?". So if the Palin family says something it's a > > > > > > lie and slander, but when people say or write against Palin it's the > > > > > > truth and therefore free speech. And not once does he, or you, make > > > > > > an > > > > > > effort to validate any of this crap. > > > > > > > On Sep 12, 3:47 pm, PoliticalAmazon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > BWA-HA-HA! Let's not go there, Mark, not with Sarah Palin > > > > > > > admitting > > > > > > > she smoked marijuana (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/29/ > > > > > > > politics/politico/thecrypt/main4397109.shtml) and two of Palin's > > > > > > > teenagers, one of them pregnant, has a BIG LONG history of illegal > > > > > > > drug use, including injecting and smoking OxyContin. > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > On Sep 12, 7:02 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Obama committed a serious crime by taking illegal drugs in his > > > > > > > > youth... I am sure you will want him arrested too... > > > > > > > > > On Sep 12, 9:57 am, PoliticalAmazon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Something else that is also true is the fact that Sarah Palin > > > > > > > > > committed a serious crime by poaching. Her neglect has also > > > > > > > > > destroyed > > > > > > > > > her kids, who have a long history of serious drug abuse > > > > > > > > > (including > > > > > > > > > injecting OxyContin--what is it with Republcians and > > > > > > > > > OxyContin, > > > > > > > > > anyway?) and other serious crimes, as well as morality issues. > > > > > > > > > > If anything, Palin, her sister, and the rest of the family > > > > > > > > > should be > > > > > > > > > barred from seeing the Wooten children. I can't imagine what > > > > > > > > > Track > > > > > > > > > would do to little children when he's one of his drug-raging > > > > > > > > > crime > > > > > > > > > frenzies. > > > > > > > > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 6:19 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Except the State Troopers found these claim to be TRUE... > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 9:47 am, mike532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > when did false accusations and slander become free speech > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 9:31 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the Judge attempted to subvert their Right's to Free > > > > > > > > > > > > Speech, and > > > > > > > > > > > > you are proud of that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 2:57 am, mike532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A judge repeatedly told Palin and family not to > > > > > > > > > > > > > badmouth her sister's > > > > > > > > > > > > > exhttp://www.newsweek.com/id/158140 > > > > > > > > > > > > > An Anchorage judge three years ago warned Sarah Palin > > > > > > > > > > > > > and members of > > > > > > > > > > > > > her family to stop "disparaging" the reputation of > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alaska State > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trooper Michael Wooten, who at the time was > > > > > > > > > > > > > undergoing a bitter > > > > > > > > > > > > > separation and divorce from Palin's sister Molly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Allegations that Palin, her husband Todd, and at > > > > > > > > > > > > > least one top > > > > > > > > > > > > > gubernatorial aide continued to vilify Wooten—after > > > > > > > > > > > > > Palin became > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alaska's governor and pressured state police > > > > > > > > > > > > > officials to take action > > > > > > > > > > > > > against him—are at the center of "Troopergate," a > > > > > > > > > > > > > political and > > > > > > > > > > > > > ethical controversy which has embroiled Palin's > > > > > > > > > > > > > administration and is > > > > > > > > > > > > > currently the subject of an official inquiry by a > > > > > > > > > > > > > special investigator > > > > > > > > > > > > > hired by the state > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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