Your inability to address the points he made about such warnings going out to ALL people in such cases is duly noted.
On Sep 17, 1:55 pm, PoliticalAmazon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The topic of this folder is a judge ordering Palin and her psychotic > family to stop harassing Wooten. Palin continued. Isn't that > contempt of court? Why is she on the street? If anyone else had done > that, they'd be in jail. > > ------- > > On Sep 17, 1:46 pm, frankg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Correct... he used his wife's tag (license), not his own (i.e., he > > shot a moose w/o a license). The tasering was not a 'simulated event'. > > It was a taser with reduced voltage and duration but still painful and > > it shouldn't have been done to an 11 year old. There were several > > people who corroborated the threat, which is why the investigation > > found him guilty of making it. It was not classified as a crime > > because he didn't make it directly to the father. > > > But this is silly. Let’s review what has happened here; > > > - Mike starts a thread about a judge telling the Palin family not to > > badmouth Wooten > > - A comment is made about subverting their right to free speech > > - Mike asks “When did false accusations and slander become free > > speech?” > > > Mike says the complaints made are “false accusations and slander” but > > several of us have shown they are not, and that this was confirmed by > > the investigation. This also begs the question of why Mike and others > > have no issue with false accusations and slander towards the Palin’s, > > but get their panties in a wad over legitimate comments directed > > towards a trooper with questionable behavior. > > > The real question here is why Mike even started this thread? Anyone > > who has lived thru or been a part of a contentious, messy divorce know > > many bad things are said by both parties and often the courts will > > issue orders to keep those involved separated and under control. To > > me, at least, it was just another attempt to attack Palin over > > something no one else would ever have been attacked over. I’m sure if > > this had been in the Obama or Biden family Mike would have vigorously > > defended their rights to ‘speak the truth’ about the guy. Hence my > > disingenuous, bias hack comment. > > > On Sep 17, 1:39 pm, PoliticalAmazon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm not a hunter, but what I have repeatedly read is that he shot a > > > moose using his wife's tag. Apparently in Alaska it is not uncommon > > > to use someone else's tag. Sarah Palin herself was convicted of > > > poaching, which is a serious crime even in Alaska. > > > > The "tasering" was a simulated event. > > > > No one has come forward to corroborate Palin's father's statement > > > about being threatened. > > > > ------------------ > > > > On Sep 12, 11:37 pm, mike532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > he was found to have drank beer in his car and shot a moose out of > > > > season . the one about tasering his son is rather doubtfull > > > > considering his son still lives with him and he was found inocent of > > > > threatening his exfather in law . do try and stick with facts . > > > > > On Sep 12, 4:39 pm, frankg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Again, PA, you're being disingenuous. Wooten was investigated for 13 > > > > > violations and was found to have either violated policy, broke the law > > > > > or both on four of them. Specifically, he was guilty of; > > > > > > • Wooten used a Taser on his 11 year old stepson. > > > > > • He illegally shot a moose. > > > > > • He drank beer in his patrol car on one occasion. > > > > > • He told others his father-in-law would "eat a fucking lead bullet" > > > > > if he helped his daughter get an attorney for the divorce. > > > > > > You smear Palin and her family for minor drug usage, mostly in the > > > > > past, but never mention Obama's own usage of pot and coke (also in the > > > > > past). Meanwhile, you completely ignore what Wooten was guilty of or > > > > > that he was at the center of a messy divorce and both sides acted > > > > > inappropriately, something not at all unusual for messy divorces. By > > > > > now everyone understand that if this situation played out in the Obama > > > > > family your 'editorializing' would be entirely different. How would > > > > > you feel if your nephew was tasered by your brother-in-law who then > > > > > says your father will eat a fucking lead bullet if he helps your > > > > > sister get an attorney? > > > > > > Notice how Mike responds with "when did false accusations and slander > > > > > become free speech ?". So if the Palin family says something it's a > > > > > lie and slander, but when people say or write against Palin it's the > > > > > truth and therefore free speech. And not once does he, or you, make an > > > > > effort to validate any of this crap. > > > > > > On Sep 12, 3:47 pm, PoliticalAmazon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > BWA-HA-HA! Let's not go there, Mark, not with Sarah Palin admitting > > > > > > she smoked marijuana (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/29/ > > > > > > politics/politico/thecrypt/main4397109.shtml) and two of Palin's > > > > > > teenagers, one of them pregnant, has a BIG LONG history of illegal > > > > > > drug use, including injecting and smoking OxyContin. > > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > On Sep 12, 7:02 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Obama committed a serious crime by taking illegal drugs in his > > > > > > > youth... I am sure you will want him arrested too... > > > > > > > > On Sep 12, 9:57 am, PoliticalAmazon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Something else that is also true is the fact that Sarah Palin > > > > > > > > committed a serious crime by poaching. Her neglect has also > > > > > > > > destroyed > > > > > > > > her kids, who have a long history of serious drug abuse > > > > > > > > (including > > > > > > > > injecting OxyContin--what is it with Republcians and OxyContin, > > > > > > > > anyway?) and other serious crimes, as well as morality issues. > > > > > > > > > If anything, Palin, her sister, and the rest of the family > > > > > > > > should be > > > > > > > > barred from seeing the Wooten children. I can't imagine what > > > > > > > > Track > > > > > > > > would do to little children when he's one of his drug-raging > > > > > > > > crime > > > > > > > > frenzies. > > > > > > > > > -------- > > > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 6:19 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Except the State Troopers found these claim to be TRUE... > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 9:47 am, mike532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > when did false accusations and slander become free speech ? > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 9:31 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > So the Judge attempted to subvert their Right's to Free > > > > > > > > > > > Speech, and > > > > > > > > > > > you are proud of that? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 2:57 am, mike532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > A judge repeatedly told Palin and family not to > > > > > > > > > > > > badmouth her sister's > > > > > > > > > > > > exhttp://www.newsweek.com/id/158140 > > > > > > > > > > > > An Anchorage judge three years ago warned Sarah Palin > > > > > > > > > > > > and members of > > > > > > > > > > > > her family to stop "disparaging" the reputation of > > > > > > > > > > > > Alaska State > > > > > > > > > > > > Trooper Michael Wooten, who at the time was undergoing > > > > > > > > > > > > a bitter > > > > > > > > > > > > separation and divorce from Palin's sister Molly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Allegations that Palin, her husband Todd, and at least > > > > > > > > > > > > one top > > > > > > > > > > > > gubernatorial aide continued to vilify Wooten—after > > > > > > > > > > > > Palin became > > > > > > > > > > > > Alaska's governor and pressured state police officials > > > > > > > > > > > > to take action > > > > > > > > > > > > against him—are at the center of "Troopergate," a > > > > > > > > > > > > political and > > > > > > > > > > > > ethical controversy which has embroiled Palin's > > > > > > > > > > > > administration and is > > > > > > > > > > > > currently the subject of an official inquiry by a > > > > > > > > > > > > special investigator > > > > > > > > > > > > hired by the state legislature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Court records obtained by NEWSWEEK show that during the > > > > > > > > > > > > course of > > > > > > > > > > > > divorce hearings three years ago, Judge John Suddock > > > > > > > > > > > > heard testimony > > > > > > > > > > > > from an official of the Alaska State Troopers' union > > > > > > > > > > > > about how Sarah > > > > > > > > > > > > Palin—then a private citizen—and members of her family, > > > > > > > > > > > > including her > > > > > > > > > > > > father and daughter, lodged up to a dozen complaints > > > > > > > > > > > > against Wooten > > > > > > > > > > > > with the state police. The union official told the > > > > > > > > > > > > judge that he had > > > > > > > > > > > > never before been asked to appear as a divorce-case > > > > > > > > > > > > witness, that the > > > > > > > > > > > > union believed family complaints against Wooten were > > > > > > > > > > > > "not job- > > > > > > > > > > > > related," and that Wooten was being "harassed" by Palin > > > > > > > > > > > > and other > > > > > > > > > > > > family members. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Court documents show that Judge Suddock was disturbed > > > > > > > > > > > > by the alleged > > > > > > > > > > > > attacks by Palin and her family members on Wooten's > > > > > > > > > > > > behavior and > > > > > > > > > > > > character. "Disparaging will not be tolerated—it is a > > > > > > > > > > > > form of child > > > > > > > > > > > > abuse," the judge told a settlement hearing in October > > > > > > > > > > > > 2005, according > > > > > > > > > > > > to typed notes of the proceedings. The judge added: > > > > > > > > > > > > "Relatives cannot > > > > > > > > > > > > disparage either. If occurs [sic] the parent needs to > > > > > > > > > > > > set boundaries > > > > > > > > > > > > for their relatives." > > > > > > > > > > > > > A spokesperson for the law firm that represented > > > > > > > > > > > > Palin's sister, now > > > > > > > > > > > > known as Molly Hackett, said Hackett's lawyer would > > > > > > > > > > > > have no comment > > > > > > > > > > > > because custody issues are still in litigation. Other > > > > > > > > > > > > lawyers > > > > > > > > > > > > representing Sarah Palin in connection with the state > > > > > > > > > > > > legislative > > > > > > > > > > > > investigation—which is examining whether she abused her > > > > > > > > > > > > powers as > > > > > > > > > > > > governor in trying to have Wooten fired or > > > > > > > > > > > > disciplined—had no > > > > > > > > > > > > immediate > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
