The topic of this folder is a judge ordering Palin and her psychotic family to stop harassing Wooten. Palin continued. Isn't that contempt of court? Why is she on the street? If anyone else had done that, they'd be in jail.
------- On Sep 17, 1:46 pm, frankg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Correct... he used his wife's tag (license), not his own (i.e., he > shot a moose w/o a license). The tasering was not a 'simulated event'. > It was a taser with reduced voltage and duration but still painful and > it shouldn't have been done to an 11 year old. There were several > people who corroborated the threat, which is why the investigation > found him guilty of making it. It was not classified as a crime > because he didn't make it directly to the father. > > But this is silly. Let’s review what has happened here; > > - Mike starts a thread about a judge telling the Palin family not to > badmouth Wooten > - A comment is made about subverting their right to free speech > - Mike asks “When did false accusations and slander become free > speech?” > > Mike says the complaints made are “false accusations and slander” but > several of us have shown they are not, and that this was confirmed by > the investigation. This also begs the question of why Mike and others > have no issue with false accusations and slander towards the Palin’s, > but get their panties in a wad over legitimate comments directed > towards a trooper with questionable behavior. > > The real question here is why Mike even started this thread? Anyone > who has lived thru or been a part of a contentious, messy divorce know > many bad things are said by both parties and often the courts will > issue orders to keep those involved separated and under control. To > me, at least, it was just another attempt to attack Palin over > something no one else would ever have been attacked over. I’m sure if > this had been in the Obama or Biden family Mike would have vigorously > defended their rights to ‘speak the truth’ about the guy. Hence my > disingenuous, bias hack comment. > > On Sep 17, 1:39 pm, PoliticalAmazon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I'm not a hunter, but what I have repeatedly read is that he shot a > > moose using his wife's tag. Apparently in Alaska it is not uncommon > > to use someone else's tag. Sarah Palin herself was convicted of > > poaching, which is a serious crime even in Alaska. > > > The "tasering" was a simulated event. > > > No one has come forward to corroborate Palin's father's statement > > about being threatened. > > > ------------------ > > > On Sep 12, 11:37 pm, mike532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > he was found to have drank beer in his car and shot a moose out of > > > season . the one about tasering his son is rather doubtfull > > > considering his son still lives with him and he was found inocent of > > > threatening his exfather in law . do try and stick with facts . > > > > On Sep 12, 4:39 pm, frankg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Again, PA, you're being disingenuous. Wooten was investigated for 13 > > > > violations and was found to have either violated policy, broke the law > > > > or both on four of them. Specifically, he was guilty of; > > > > > • Wooten used a Taser on his 11 year old stepson. > > > > • He illegally shot a moose. > > > > • He drank beer in his patrol car on one occasion. > > > > • He told others his father-in-law would "eat a fucking lead bullet" > > > > if he helped his daughter get an attorney for the divorce. > > > > > You smear Palin and her family for minor drug usage, mostly in the > > > > past, but never mention Obama's own usage of pot and coke (also in the > > > > past). Meanwhile, you completely ignore what Wooten was guilty of or > > > > that he was at the center of a messy divorce and both sides acted > > > > inappropriately, something not at all unusual for messy divorces. By > > > > now everyone understand that if this situation played out in the Obama > > > > family your 'editorializing' would be entirely different. How would > > > > you feel if your nephew was tasered by your brother-in-law who then > > > > says your father will eat a fucking lead bullet if he helps your > > > > sister get an attorney? > > > > > Notice how Mike responds with "when did false accusations and slander > > > > become free speech ?". So if the Palin family says something it's a > > > > lie and slander, but when people say or write against Palin it's the > > > > truth and therefore free speech. And not once does he, or you, make an > > > > effort to validate any of this crap. > > > > > On Sep 12, 3:47 pm, PoliticalAmazon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > BWA-HA-HA! Let's not go there, Mark, not with Sarah Palin admitting > > > > > she smoked marijuana (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/29/ > > > > > politics/politico/thecrypt/main4397109.shtml) and two of Palin's > > > > > teenagers, one of them pregnant, has a BIG LONG history of illegal > > > > > drug use, including injecting and smoking OxyContin. > > > > > > ------ > > > > > On Sep 12, 7:02 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Obama committed a serious crime by taking illegal drugs in his > > > > > > youth... I am sure you will want him arrested too... > > > > > > > On Sep 12, 9:57 am, PoliticalAmazon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Something else that is also true is the fact that Sarah Palin > > > > > > > committed a serious crime by poaching. Her neglect has also > > > > > > > destroyed > > > > > > > her kids, who have a long history of serious drug abuse (including > > > > > > > injecting OxyContin--what is it with Republcians and OxyContin, > > > > > > > anyway?) and other serious crimes, as well as morality issues. > > > > > > > > If anything, Palin, her sister, and the rest of the family should > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > barred from seeing the Wooten children. I can't imagine what > > > > > > > Track > > > > > > > would do to little children when he's one of his drug-raging crime > > > > > > > frenzies. > > > > > > > > -------- > > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 6:19 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Except the State Troopers found these claim to be TRUE... > > > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 9:47 am, mike532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > when did false accusations and slander become free speech ? > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 9:31 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > So the Judge attempted to subvert their Right's to Free > > > > > > > > > > Speech, and > > > > > > > > > > you are proud of that? > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 2:57 am, mike532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > A judge repeatedly told Palin and family not to badmouth > > > > > > > > > > > her sister's > > > > > > > > > > > exhttp://www.newsweek.com/id/158140 > > > > > > > > > > > An Anchorage judge three years ago warned Sarah Palin and > > > > > > > > > > > members of > > > > > > > > > > > her family to stop "disparaging" the reputation of Alaska > > > > > > > > > > > State > > > > > > > > > > > Trooper Michael Wooten, who at the time was undergoing a > > > > > > > > > > > bitter > > > > > > > > > > > separation and divorce from Palin's sister Molly. > > > > > > > > > > > > Allegations that Palin, her husband Todd, and at least > > > > > > > > > > > one top > > > > > > > > > > > gubernatorial aide continued to vilify Wooten—after Palin > > > > > > > > > > > became > > > > > > > > > > > Alaska's governor and pressured state police officials to > > > > > > > > > > > take action > > > > > > > > > > > against him—are at the center of "Troopergate," a > > > > > > > > > > > political and > > > > > > > > > > > ethical controversy which has embroiled Palin's > > > > > > > > > > > administration and is > > > > > > > > > > > currently the subject of an official inquiry by a special > > > > > > > > > > > investigator > > > > > > > > > > > hired by the state legislature. > > > > > > > > > > > > Court records obtained by NEWSWEEK show that during the > > > > > > > > > > > course of > > > > > > > > > > > divorce hearings three years ago, Judge John Suddock > > > > > > > > > > > heard testimony > > > > > > > > > > > from an official of the Alaska State Troopers' union > > > > > > > > > > > about how Sarah > > > > > > > > > > > Palin—then a private citizen—and members of her family, > > > > > > > > > > > including her > > > > > > > > > > > father and daughter, lodged up to a dozen complaints > > > > > > > > > > > against Wooten > > > > > > > > > > > with the state police. The union official told the judge > > > > > > > > > > > that he had > > > > > > > > > > > never before been asked to appear as a divorce-case > > > > > > > > > > > witness, that the > > > > > > > > > > > union believed family complaints against Wooten were "not > > > > > > > > > > > job- > > > > > > > > > > > related," and that Wooten was being "harassed" by Palin > > > > > > > > > > > and other > > > > > > > > > > > family members. > > > > > > > > > > > > Court documents show that Judge Suddock was disturbed by > > > > > > > > > > > the alleged > > > > > > > > > > > attacks by Palin and her family members on Wooten's > > > > > > > > > > > behavior and > > > > > > > > > > > character. "Disparaging will not be tolerated—it is a > > > > > > > > > > > form of child > > > > > > > > > > > abuse," the judge told a settlement hearing in October > > > > > > > > > > > 2005, according > > > > > > > > > > > to typed notes of the proceedings. The judge added: > > > > > > > > > > > "Relatives cannot > > > > > > > > > > > disparage either. If occurs [sic] the parent needs to set > > > > > > > > > > > boundaries > > > > > > > > > > > for their relatives." > > > > > > > > > > > > A spokesperson for the law firm that represented Palin's > > > > > > > > > > > sister, now > > > > > > > > > > > known as Molly Hackett, said Hackett's lawyer would have > > > > > > > > > > > no comment > > > > > > > > > > > because custody issues are still in litigation. Other > > > > > > > > > > > lawyers > > > > > > > > > > > representing Sarah Palin in connection with the state > > > > > > > > > > > legislative > > > > > > > > > > > investigation—which is examining whether she abused her > > > > > > > > > > > powers as > > > > > > > > > > > governor in trying to have Wooten fired or > > > > > > > > > > > disciplined—had no > > > > > > > > > > > immediate comment. Palin's official gubernatorial > > > > > > > > > > > spokeswoman did not > > > > > > > > > > > respond to e-mails and a phone message requesting comment. > > > > > > > > > > > > Wooten's lawyer also did not respond to messages > > > > > > > > > > > requesting comment. > > > > > > > > > > > John Cyr, executive director of the State Troopers union, > > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > testified at the divorce hearing and is acting as > > > > > > > > > > > Wooten's spokesman, > > > > > > > > > > > said Wooten has avoided giving media interviews because > > > > > > > > > > > he wants to > > > > > > > > > > > avoid criticizing his former relatives (to date, Wooten > > > > > > > > > > > has granted > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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