It's a shame we don't have, "Like" buttons like we do over on FaceBook, cause I would have given you a "Like" for your last post Travis!
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > I think about 20 megatons dropped on that big black outhouse in Mecca at > the height of the Haj would be appropriate. > > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>wrote: > >> America was founded upon Christian principles and tenets, and those will >> become stronger as time progresses. You cannot revise history as you and >> your far left ilk would like. >> >> Iran has attacked us, along with those terrorists that both Afghanistan >> and Iraq supported, trained, and housed. They got what was coming to them. >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:45 AM, plainolamerican < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Plain Ol' doesn't believe in the United States' right to defend itself. >>> ---- >>> We weren't attacked by Afghanistan or Iraq. >>> massive military attacks on weak, third world nations for the actions of >>> a few is wrong. >>> destroying their nation and rebuilding it with our tax dollars is >>> fucking insanity. >>> >>> The Good News! >>> As America becomes more secular the religious will lose political power >>> and be forced to fund and fight their own silly religious wars. >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, December 19, 2013 7:12:41 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>> >>>> Plain Ol' doesn't believe in the United States' right to defend >>>> itself. We've seen folks who believed like Plain Ol' did, and thankfully, >>>> we have those who are not willing to repeat past mistakes with murdering >>>> tyrannical governments. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:41 PM, plainolamerican >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> everything Iran does to the USA is regarded as revenge for meddling >>>>> Americans who interfere with their government. >>>>> Warmongers Beware!!! >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, December 19, 2013 3:19:30 PM UTC-6, Travis wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *‘Rushing’ to War with Iran?* >>>>>> >>>>>> Posted By *Adam Turner* On December 19, 2013 >>>>>> >>>>>> In November, there was some talk of “a march (or rush) to war” >>>>>> against Iran. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Obama Administration used this >>>>>> line<https://web.archive.org/web/20131113154723/http:/news.yahoo.com/white-house-warns-congress-opposing-iran-deal-could-183651386.html>to >>>>>> dismiss those – including EMET – who dared to disbelieve the sincerity >>>>>> of negotiations regarding the Iranian regime’s program to develop nuclear >>>>>> weapons, and seek to expand U.S. sanctions against that nation so as to >>>>>> keep the pressure on them to prove their sincerity. >>>>>> >>>>>> The major problem with this charge is that Iran and the U.S. are already >>>>>> at war <http://emetonline.org/emettv/ledeen/01.html>. And every few >>>>>> years, Iran or its proxies (most especially Hezbollah) conducts another >>>>>> hostile act, which results in the death or harming of Americans. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here are just some of the acts of war Iran has conducted against the >>>>>> U.S. >>>>>> >>>>>> In 1979, Iranian students stormed the U.S. Embassy, and >>>>>> took<http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/15/world/meast/iran-hostage-crisis-fast-facts/>52 >>>>>> (originally 66) of its personnel hostage for 444 days. Iranian Foreign >>>>>> Minister I. Yazdi, along with other Iranian officials, >>>>>> indicated<http://books.google.com/books?id=yaOknKJ3bNgC&pg=PA287&lpg=PA287&dq=seizing+embassies+violation+of+international+law&source=bl&ots=Hw7z5o3lsI&sig=9dqAZkHYYtUFwyM8xPROCT97u4Y&hl=en&sa=X&ei=DT6vUuvWDcarkAfZ6oCQBg&ved=0CEkQ6AEwBg>official >>>>>> Iranian support for the seizure when he said, “The action of the >>>>>> students enjoys the endorsement and support of the government.” Reza >>>>>> Kahlili describes the seizure in his book A *Time to Betray: The >>>>>> Astonishing Double Life of a CIA Agent Inside the Revolutionary Guards of >>>>>> Iran*: >>>>>> >>>>>> This was not a rout. It was not an act of passion. It seemed too >>>>>> managed for that. The people who rushed in seemed to know one another >>>>>> and >>>>>> to know what to do. Military members of the Guards arrived quickly. I >>>>>> wondered how they heard about the break-in so fast. Then the Komiteh, >>>>>> the >>>>>> religious police recently given official status by Khomeini, came and >>>>>> promised to keep order. But the only thing they kept orderly was the >>>>>> takeover itself. Busloads of people arrived and joined the >>>>>> demonstration, >>>>>> another sign that this gathering was not spontaneous. Within minutes, >>>>>> the >>>>>> protesters controlled the compound. >>>>>> >>>>>> For its illegal actions, the Iranian regime was cited by the >>>>>> International >>>>>> Court of >>>>>> Justice<http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?sum=334&p1=3&p2=3&case=64&p3=5>and >>>>>> by the U.N. through two >>>>>> U.N. >>>>>> Resolutions<http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Documents/461.pdf>for >>>>>> its violation of Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations of 1961 the >>>>>> international treaty that governs diplomatic immunity. >>>>>> >>>>>> Iran set >>>>>> up<http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Yadlin-Scope-of-Iranian-retaliation-to-potential-strike-is-exaggerated-334035>, >>>>>> continues to support, and often directs, Hezbollah, a State >>>>>> Department-listed Lebanese terror group that has kidnapped, tortured, >>>>>> harmed, and/or killed Americans. In 1983, Hezbollah bombed the U.S. >>>>>> Marine >>>>>> Barracks in Beirut and killed 241 American servicemen who were sent to >>>>>> Lebanon for peacekeeping purposes. Hezbollah is >>>>>> believed<http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/hizbollah.html>to >>>>>> have kidnapped and tortured to death U.S. Army colonel William Higgins >>>>>> and the CIA Station Chief in Beirut, William Buckley. It kidnapped >>>>>> around >>>>>> 30 other Westerners between 1982 and 1992. Imad Mughniyah, a former >>>>>> senior >>>>>> Hezbollah leader, was, prior to 911, >>>>>> “responsible<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/20/AR2007082000980_pf.html>for >>>>>> the deaths of more Americans than any other terrorist.” He and two >>>>>> other members of Hezbollah, Hasan Izz-al-Din, and Ali Atwa, were on the >>>>>> FBI’s list of 22 Most Wanted Terrorists for the hijacking in 1985 of TWA >>>>>> Flight 847 during which a U.S. Navy diver was murdered. In 2007, >>>>>> Hezbollah >>>>>> operative Ali Mussa Daqduq allegedly >>>>>> played<http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/365813/why-obama-administration-courting-hezbollah-jonathan-spyer-benjamin-weinthal>a >>>>>> significant role in the killings of five U.S. soldiers in Iraq. In >>>>>> 2011, >>>>>> the U.S. government >>>>>> seized<http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/hizbollah.html>drug >>>>>> profits linked to Ayman Joumaa, a drug trafficker and money launderer, >>>>>> linked to Hezbollah, and in April 2013, the U.S. Treasury Department took >>>>>> action against Hezbollah for working as a drug cartel. >>>>>> >>>>>> Iran was involved in the 911 terrorist attacks. A U.S. District >>>>>> Judge >>>>>> “ruled<http://www.bloomberg.com/article/2011-12-23/aYoOcZ6NT3wo.html>that >>>>>> Iran and Hezbollah materially and directly supported al Qaeda in the >>>>>> September 11, 2001 attacks and are legally responsible for damages to >>>>>> hundreds of family members of 9/11 victims who are plaintiffs in the >>>>>> case.” Also, post-911, the Iranian regime >>>>>> protected<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/20/AR2007082000980_pf.html>members >>>>>> of al-Qaeda, including the son of Bin Ladin, even as the latter >>>>>> planned and implemented other bombings that wounded or killed civilians. >>>>>> Because of these and many other actions, the U.S. State >>>>>> Department describes Iran >>>>>> as<http://www.theettingerreport.com/Palestinian-Issue/The-Iran-Nuclear-Agreement-and-the-Common-Sense-Te.aspx>the >>>>>> “leading sponsor of anti-U.S. Islamic terrorism.” >>>>>> >>>>>> This position is neither controversial nor partisan. Jeffery >>>>>> Goldberg noted in *The Atlantic*, Iran is “is waging >>>>>> war<http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/07/iran-killing-american-troops-in-iraq-and-afghanistan/241486/>against >>>>>> the United States of America” in Iraq. Michael Ledeen writing in *The >>>>>> Weekly Standard*, reaches the same conclusion saying, “(T)here is >>>>>> abundant >>>>>> evidence<http://old.nationalreview.com/ledeen/ledeen200603280728.asp>for >>>>>> Iranian involvement in Iraq, most including their relentless efforts to >>>>>> kill American soldiers. The evidence consists of first-hand information, >>>>>> not intelligence reports. Scores of Iranian intelligence officers have >>>>>> been arrested, and some have confessed. Documentary evidence of intimate >>>>>> Iranian involvement with Iraqi terrorists has been found all over Iraq, >>>>>> notably in Fallujah and Hilla.” >>>>>> >>>>>> These facts have been widely reported. During the U.S. occupation of >>>>>> Iraq (from 2003-2011), hundreds of American soldiers were killed or >>>>>> wounded >>>>>> by roadside >>>>>> bombs<http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/iran-again-arming-iraqi-groups-attacking-u-s-troops-gates-says.html>or >>>>>> other >>>>>> weapons<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/8624489/Iran-supporting-Shiite-groups-in-Iraq-that-are-killing-US-troops.html>that >>>>>> were constructed, and supplied, by Iran to Iraqi rebels. The Iranians >>>>>> gave >>>>>> <http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-iran-is-killing-us-troops-in-iraq/>these >>>>>> IEDs to both Shiites and Sunnis alike. >>>>>> >>>>>> Iran has consistently grabbed American citizens and held them >>>>>> hostage. The latest three are: >>>>>> >>>>>> • In 2007, former FBI agent Robert Levinson was >>>>>> seized<http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/robert-levinson-still-a-hostage-in-iran/2013/11/25/604319f0-55f9-11e3-ba82-16ed03681809_story.html>. >>>>>> (Even if reports that Levinson is a spy are true, Iran’s response of >>>>>> making >>>>>> him disappear is unusual and particularly aggressive.) >>>>>> >>>>>> • In 2011, former U.S. Marine Amir Hekmati was >>>>>> taken<http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/11/world/meast/iran-american-prisoner/>while >>>>>> visiting his grandmother. >>>>>> >>>>>> • In 2012, Pastor Saeed Abedini was >>>>>> grabbed<http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/12/06/congress-to-hold-hearing-on-plight-jailed-iranian-american-pastor/>while >>>>>> visiting relatives in Iran. >>>>>> >>>>>> In 2011, Iran >>>>>> plotted<http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/2011/10/11/gIQAiaYxcL_story.html>to >>>>>> bomb a Georgetown restaurant to kill a prominent Saudi diplomat. “The >>>>>> Justice Department unsealed charges against two Iranians — one of them a >>>>>> U.S. citizen — accusing them of orchestrating an elaborate >>>>>> murder-for-hire >>>>>> plot that targeted Adel al-Jubeir, the Saudi envoy to Washington and a >>>>>> key >>>>>> adviser to King Abdullah. The Iranians planned to employ Mexican drug >>>>>> traffickers to kill Jubeir with a bomb as he ate at a restaurant, U.S. >>>>>> officials said.” Needless to say, this might have killed dozens, if not >>>>>> hundreds, of American civilians on our own soil. Luckily, this bombing >>>>>> was >>>>>> prevented. >>>>>> >>>>>> At the same time, the Iranian regime continues to pour out harsh >>>>>> rhetoric towards the U.S. Every year since 1979, on November 4th, the >>>>>> day >>>>>> the Embassy was seized, the Iranian regime >>>>>> sponsors<http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/04/thousands-of-iranians-shout-death-to-america-burn-flags-to-mark-anniversary-of-u-s-embassy-takeover/>a >>>>>> “Death to America” day. The Iranian regime continually >>>>>> refers<http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/news/middle-east/2013/10/11/-Death-to-America-the-Great-Satan-.html> >>>>>> to >>>>>> the United States, as “The Great Satan”, and Israel as merely “The Minor >>>>>> Satan.” The Iranian regime promotes demonstrations where the American >>>>>> flag is spat on, burned, or tread upon. They have even >>>>>> turned<http://freebeacon.com/former-u-s-embassy-in-iran-turned-into-anti-american-museum/>the >>>>>> Embassy that they illegally seized into an anti-American museum. >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course, none of these facts really matter to the President, and >>>>>> his Administration. As we have discovered, they live in a utopian dream >>>>>> world, where facts do not >>>>>> exist<http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/obamas-stable-world-delusion/>; >>>>>> red lines >>>>>> disappear<http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-perspective/120513-681885-obama-sacrifices-syria-victims-for-iran-deal.htm>; >>>>>> lies are >>>>>> true<http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/12/12/3814911/politifacts-lie-of-the-year-president.html>, >>>>>> and peace on earth only requires a little “smart >>>>>> diplomacy<http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/?s=smart+diplomacy>” >>>>>> by the Administration. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, because President Obama believes that the U.S. and Iran are not >>>>>> at war, then we aren’t. And, according to the argument of the Obama >>>>>> Administration, their critics are guilty of trying to march us into a war >>>>>> that – according to international law and common sense – we have already >>>>>> been embroiled in for almost thirty-five years now. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Freedom Center pamphlets now available on Kindle: **Click >>>>>> here*<http://www.amazon.com/s/ref%3dnb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-text&field-keywords=david+horowitz&rh=n:133140011%2ck:david+horowitz&ajr=0#/ref=sr_st?keywords=david+horowitz&qid=1316459840&rh=n:133140011%2ck:david+horowitz&sort=daterank>*. >>>>>> * >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Article printed from FrontPage Magazine: *http://www.frontpagemag.com >>>>>> <http://www.frontpagemag.com>* >>>>>> >>>>>> URL to article: >>>>>> *http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/adam-turner/rushing-to-war-with-iran/ >>>>>> <http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/adam-turner/rushing-to-war-with-iran/>* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> __._,_.___ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> __,_._,___ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>> >>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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