Unfortunately for you Plain Ol, during yours and my lifetime, the United States is, and will continue to be a non-secular Nation-State, relying upon it's Christian heritage as its moral compass and depending upon Christian values, principals and tenets for the concept of "Ordered Liberty". You hate this I know, and you and your secularist liberal friends do everything in your power to revise history, but it's pretty much for naught!
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 12:18 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > wrote: > the government cannot mandate or regulate social behavior or morality. > --- > nor can the religious. > > the good news! > as Americans become more secular the religious will lose political power > and influence. > > > On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:12:50 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > >> As a "Genocidal Conservative"; I think this just goes to show that the >> government cannot mandate or regulate social behavior or morality. It's >> been tried and failed at each and every attempt. >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:35 AM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> *"Herewith another and yet worse confession: I do not see, or care, why >>> it is thought my duty to like, or dislike, groups because of their race, >>> creed, color, sex, sexual aberration, or national origin. Nor do I think it >>> their duty to like me. I especially do not understand why the federal >>> government should decide with whom I ought to associate." * >>> *"So what?" * >>> *How do you like them apples? *By Fred Reed >>> April 22, 2014 >>> >>> I am puzzled as to why racism is thought to be a terrible thing, rather >>> than entirely natural and often reasonable, and why people allow themselves >>> to be brow-beaten about it. Maybe we should stop. Domestic tranquility >>> would follow in torrents. >>> >>> As nearly as I can tell, a racist is one who approves of rigorous >>> education, good English, civilized manners, minimal criminality, and >>> responsible parenthood, among other things. I am, then, a racist. I see no >>> reason to grovel about it. >>> >>> I decided long ago that if, while I was doing a radio interview, a >>> caller-in told me, “You a *racist!”* I would hesitate as if puzzled, >>> and say “…So what?” This would add immeasurably to the planetary supply of >>> stunned silence. The expectation is that anyone so charged will fall on his >>> knees and beg for mercy. It would be a lesser offense to be caught sexually >>> molesting autistic three-year-old girls while attending a Nazi torch-rally. >>> >>> Herewith another and yet worse confession: I do not see, or care, why it >>> is thought my duty to like, or dislike, groups because of their race, >>> creed, color, sex, sexual aberration, or national origin. Nor do I think it >>> their duty to like me. I especially do not understand why the federal >>> government should decide with whom I ought to associate. >>> >>> But back to “So what?” Among its charms is that there is no answer to >>> it, other than huffing and puffing and indignant expostulation. All of >>> these amuse me. Used frequently, “So what?”would shut up people who badly >>> need to shut up, or else force them to think. Not likely, as most >>> apparently cannot. >>> >>> Let us, improbably, glance at reality. A characteristic of human groups >>> is that they do not like each other. The greater the difference between the >>> groups, the greater the dislike; the closer the contact between them, the >>> more open the friction. Note that before the advent of mass immigration, >>> Americans of whatever politics had no dislike of Hispanics. >>> >>> Thus separation increases the likelihood of amity. Is this not obvious? >>> The instinctive rancor between disparate groups accounts for most of the >>> world’s problems. Moslems and Christians dislike each other, Tamils and >>> Sinhalese, Cambodians and Vietnamese, blacks and whites, Americans and >>> Frenchmen, men and women, homosexuals and the normal and, as Tom Lehrer >>> famously sang, “…everybody hates the Jews.” >>> >>> Except that in America Jews are so assimilated that most of us don’t >>> remember to hate them. They aren’t different enough. I’ll have to make >>> myself a note. >>> >>> Humans like to be among their own kind. This can mean many things. It >>> can be political. In Washington, white liberals cheerlead for diversity >>> while spending their time exclusively with white liberals and execrating >>> Southerners, Jesus Creepers, genocidal conservatives (understood to mean >>> all conservatives), Catholics, racists, owners of guns, rednecks, and so >>> on. No dissenting voices are heard because, like conservatives, liberals >>> choose to be among their own. Similarly, if in any of Washington’s dives >>> you know that one person in a table of six has an IQ in excess 130, it is a >>> good bet that all do. It isn’t snobbery. Smart people enjoy the company of >>> smart people. Their own kind. So what? >>> >>> If left alone, people will naturally and peacefully form such >>> associations as seem to them desirable. If left alone. So what? >>> >>> The Chinese cluster together in China Towns because they want to be >>> among their own. So what? Jews have yeshivas because they want to preserve >>> their culture. So what? On campus, black students want separate >>> fraternities and dormitories. So what? When men can find a pretext for >>> being among other men, they do. So what? >>> >>> In all of this, I am a bit of an outlier, having lived among many >>> cultures and generally liked them. Some can do this. Yet as a white >>> American of European extraction, I too want to preserve my culture. This >>> involves (or did) respect for law, studiousness, the production of children >>> within marriage, self-reliance, honesty, sexual restraint, and so on. >>> Another part of my cultural package is the literature of Milne, Milton, >>> Twain, Galsworthy, Gibbon, and others at length. I want my children to read >>> them >>> >>> However, I do not want to impose my values and culture on others. >>> American blacks for example are truly *African *Americans, and quite >>> reasonably may have as little interest in European history as I do in >>> African. Rationally this would argue for separate schools where each could >>> study what and as it chose. For reasons impenetrable to me, to suggest this >>> is thought worse than genocide. >>> >>> A reason for letting people associate as they choose is that, while >>> groups naturally do not like each other, they overlap in curious ways. >>> Left to themselves, people sort these matters out like water reaching its >>> level. When I lived in Washington I used to spend afternoons over a Bass >>> and several of its friends at the Cafe Asia, on Wilson Boulevard just >>> across Key Bridge into Virginia. The Asia was then staffed by Asian >>> girlsMalays, Chinese, Vietnamese, and a lovely Japanese woman who managed >>> it. The clientele ran to young white professionals. >>> >>> Their unanimous opinion held of these women by white men was highly >>> favorable. Why? Well, these young ladiesthey *were* ladies–were sleek, >>> pretty, classy, never toilet-mouthed, and smart. Smart: One was doing >>> graduate work in computer security, another was a wide-area network >>> engineer, a third had been unable to find work after a master’s in biochem, >>> and so was in dental school. >>> >>> Here we have an example of people, being* left alone*, deciding *for >>> themselves* who to hang out with. The young white professionals had >>> decided, probably not consciously, that the Asian women had enough in >>> common with us, and enough not in common but appealing, that we really >>> enjoyed them. >>> >>> Where is the fly in this ointment? I suppose we were racists, as we were >>> assuredly discriminating racially: We thought Malays pretty. The horror. No >>> doubt we were sinners all. >>> >>> Today of course we are federally admonished not to choose our own >>> friends and neighbors as if our lives were our own business. No. Instead >>> we must follow the social directives of the Potomac Soviet, whether anyone >>> wants to or not. Few do. In Washington, on the Hill, upper Connecticut, the >>> inner suburbs, the outer suburbs, everywhere, clubs and restaurants are >>> either almost perfectly white or perfectly black. Whites happily patronize >>> Latin American restaurants intended for the general trade, yet in >>> mini-barrios many venues tacitly are for browns only. So what? It is how >>> people want it. If freedom of association is racism, I am for it. >>> >>> So what? >>> >>> http://www.fredoneverything.net/LaudableRacism.shtml >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>> >>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>> * It's active and moderated. 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