What a conundrum.....I really don't have the solution or answer as to how
to solve this problem, but  "A Problem"....It Is.....

On the one hand, it seems as though ANYONE who is Islamic and who even
remotely seems tied to or supportive of IS(IS)  should be deported and
their passports confiscated.  I don't know how, Constitutionally, we could
do this, practically or even in theory, especially as this concept applies
to American citizens.  I could fathom such a program to those who are not
citizens, or who are "Naturalized" Citizens.

No matter, we have got to stem this problem,  both here in the United
States as well as in Europa.



On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Travis <[email protected]> wrote:

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> http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/09/14/where-did-the-islamic-state-come-from/
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> Where Did the Islamic State Come From?
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> ISIS captor with David Haines. Photo: SITE Intel screenshot.
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> The simple answer – and the one you’ll hear most often – is that IS, or
> Islamic State (formerly ISIS) emerged out of al-Qaeda, gathering strength
> through the ongoing civil war in Syria and unrest in Iraq.
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> But that’s only part of the story: the rest is based in Europe (and even
> in America), where governments have continually – if unwittingly – financed
> programs that breed radicalization in Muslim communities there. Now, more
> and more of those radical Muslims, most born and bred in the West, are
> joining IS and its jihad; and in their efforts to prevent it, Europe’s
> leaders in particular may in fact be strengthening the threat.
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> In fact, as IS strengthens its grip in Iraq, European Muslim youth are
> increasingly drawn to join. Following the gruesome horror of IS’s
> beheadings and executions these past few weeks, the number of Belgian youth
> heading off to join the terrorist group in Syria increased significantly,
> according to Belgian security agency OCAP. Noted Belgium’s Nieuwsblad: “The
> recent increase is striking, and is according to our information partly
> explainable by the enormous amount of propaganda that ISIS produces on
> social media. The spread of shocking images, such as the mass execution of
> 250 Syrian soldiers, and the execution of American journalist James Foley,
> seem only to send Muslim youth towards radicalization.”
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> Last week, Dutch officials arrested two families from the town of Huizen
> as they prepared to join the jihad in Syria, confiscating the passports of
> all parents and their six children, aged eight months to nine years old.
> Around the same time, the Dutch-American radical known as Jermaine W
> successfully departed for Syria with his wife and children. Jermaine, whose
> father was American, is well known in the Netherlands as a member of
> Holland’s extremist Hofstadgroep, and as a friend of Hofstadgroep leader
> Mohammed Bouyeri, the terrorist killer of filmmaker Theo van Gogh. Jermaine
> was arrested in 2004 for a letter in which he outlined plans to murder
> activist and then-Parliamentarian Ayaan Hirsi Ali, but was released in 2006
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> Many of these European jihadists, like Jermaine, travel with their
> children, whom they then place in jihadist training camps in the hopes of
> producing a new, stronger generation of Islamic warriors for the Islamic
> State. Recent reporting from VICE shows a Belgian father coaching his very
> young son to kill “unbelievers,” while other children play and train with
> rifles.
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> But the problem did not begin with emigration to Syria. It began with the
> radicalization of these Muslims while they lived on European soil, attended
> European mosques and joined European programs for Muslim youth – programs
> frequently created in an effort to prevent such radicalization. But
> according to a report in Dutch newsweekly Elsevier, many presumably
> moderate mosques have used government funds to subsidize visits from
> extremist imams such as Usman Ali, who has given speeches at the Greenwich
> Islamic Center. Ali’s fee, according to Elsevier, was paid through a
> €75,000 government subsidy ostensibly aimed at “preventing radicalization.”
> By 2010, when government subsidies to the center had expanded to €168,000,
> Ali was serving on its board.
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> Just who is Usman Ali? Among other things, he is known for showing videos
> of the 9/11 attacks to children, while preaching “Allah is the Almighty,”
> (“allahu akbaar”) reports Elsevier. The leader of what has been called a
> “powerful web of Islamic radicals and terror convicts,” he has also been
> accused of inspiring Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale, in the
> horrific almost-beheading of British soldier Lee Rigby outside the military
> barracks in Woolwich, South East London. In an interview with Al Jazeera,
> Ali denied the allegations.
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> Similar situations abound in the Netherlands, most notably at Amsterdam’s
> Blue Mosque, which is governed via an intricate web of organizations and
> finances by the Muslim Brotherhood, owned by the government of Kuwait, and
> led by Kuwait’s Minister of Religious Affairs. Among the speakers invited
> there: Khalid Yasin, known largely for being the inspiration for “underwear
> bomber” Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab.
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> Closer to home, the Muslim Association of Canada, which has received
> funding from the government of Alberta, has in turn financed Hamas and the
> Islamic Relief and Human Concern International (IRHCI). According to
> documents uploaded to Point de Bascule, a conservative web site based in
> Canada, “On its website, Islamic Relief Canada lists eight categories of
> zakat beneficiaries. These eight categories match exactly the categories
> listed in the Muslim Brotherhood-endorsed manual of sharia Umdat al-Salik.”
> The organization also specifically encourages charity for “Muslims waging
> jihad: those struggling in the path of Allah.”
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> Western governments likely are not knowingly funding such projects: but as
> Elsevier points out, “German security agencies have warned for years – such
> as in their annual report for 2007 – that moderate Islamic organizations
> can breed radical groups. While they do not recruit youths for the jihad,
> by encouraging a strong ‘Islamic identity,’ they make the risk of
> radicalization that much greater.”
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> Now Europe is proposing new solutions to tidy up this mess. Top among
> them: revoking the passports of those who go to Syria, or who are stopped
> at the border or en route, as in the case of the two families from Huizen.
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> But is this really the best answer? The Muslims who make the journey for
> jihad are already radicalized. They have already turned against the West,
> and committed themselves to battling against it – violently, and without
> mercy. Their minds and hearts are with the Islamic State, even as they live
> in Paris or New York, in Amsterdam or Detroit. Withholding their passports
> only keeps them where they are – among us, their enemies, the ones they
> plan to destroy.
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> The uncomfortable, tragic truth is we helped create their murderous
> mindsets, their hatred of the West. That was our mistake. We should not
> make another by keeping them here, inside our own homes. Let them go. And
> lock the doors behind them.
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> Abigail R. Esman, the author, most recently, of Radical State: How Jihad
> Is Winning Over Democracy in the West (Praeger, 2010), is a freelance
> writer based in New York and the Netherlands.
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