Only solution is the complete elimination of Islam and everyone and everything associated with it.
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > What a conundrum.....I really don't have the solution or answer as to how > to solve this problem, but "A Problem"....It Is..... > > On the one hand, it seems as though ANYONE who is Islamic and who even > remotely seems tied to or supportive of IS(IS) should be deported and > their passports confiscated. I don't know how, Constitutionally, we could > do this, practically or even in theory, especially as this concept applies > to American citizens. I could fathom such a program to those who are not > citizens, or who are "Naturalized" Citizens. > > No matter, we have got to stem this problem, both here in the United > States as well as in Europa. > > > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/09/14/where-did-the-islamic-state-come-from/ >> >> >> >> Where Did the Islamic State Come From? >> >> >> >> >> >> ISIS captor with David Haines. Photo: SITE Intel screenshot. >> >> The simple answer – and the one you’ll hear most often – is that IS, or >> Islamic State (formerly ISIS) emerged out of al-Qaeda, gathering strength >> through the ongoing civil war in Syria and unrest in Iraq. >> >> >> >> But that’s only part of the story: the rest is based in Europe (and even >> in America), where governments have continually – if unwittingly – financed >> programs that breed radicalization in Muslim communities there. Now, more >> and more of those radical Muslims, most born and bred in the West, are >> joining IS and its jihad; and in their efforts to prevent it, Europe’s >> leaders in particular may in fact be strengthening the threat. >> >> >> >> In fact, as IS strengthens its grip in Iraq, European Muslim youth are >> increasingly drawn to join. Following the gruesome horror of IS’s >> beheadings and executions these past few weeks, the number of Belgian youth >> heading off to join the terrorist group in Syria increased significantly, >> according to Belgian security agency OCAP. Noted Belgium’s Nieuwsblad: “The >> recent increase is striking, and is according to our information partly >> explainable by the enormous amount of propaganda that ISIS produces on >> social media. The spread of shocking images, such as the mass execution of >> 250 Syrian soldiers, and the execution of American journalist James Foley, >> seem only to send Muslim youth towards radicalization.” >> >> >> >> It’s not just in Belgium. >> >> >> >> Last week, Dutch officials arrested two families from the town of Huizen >> as they prepared to join the jihad in Syria, confiscating the passports of >> all parents and their six children, aged eight months to nine years old. >> Around the same time, the Dutch-American radical known as Jermaine W >> successfully departed for Syria with his wife and children. Jermaine, whose >> father was American, is well known in the Netherlands as a member of >> Holland’s extremist Hofstadgroep, and as a friend of Hofstadgroep leader >> Mohammed Bouyeri, the terrorist killer of filmmaker Theo van Gogh. Jermaine >> was arrested in 2004 for a letter in which he outlined plans to murder >> activist and then-Parliamentarian Ayaan Hirsi Ali, but was released in 2006 >> on the basis of “insufficient evidence.” >> >> >> >> Many of these European jihadists, like Jermaine, travel with their >> children, whom they then place in jihadist training camps in the hopes of >> producing a new, stronger generation of Islamic warriors for the Islamic >> State. Recent reporting from VICE shows a Belgian father coaching his very >> young son to kill “unbelievers,” while other children play and train with >> rifles. >> >> >> >> But the problem did not begin with emigration to Syria. It began with the >> radicalization of these Muslims while they lived on European soil, attended >> European mosques and joined European programs for Muslim youth – programs >> frequently created in an effort to prevent such radicalization. But >> according to a report in Dutch newsweekly Elsevier, many presumably >> moderate mosques have used government funds to subsidize visits from >> extremist imams such as Usman Ali, who has given speeches at the Greenwich >> Islamic Center. Ali’s fee, according to Elsevier, was paid through a >> €75,000 government subsidy ostensibly aimed at “preventing radicalization.” >> By 2010, when government subsidies to the center had expanded to €168,000, >> Ali was serving on its board. >> >> >> >> Just who is Usman Ali? Among other things, he is known for showing videos >> of the 9/11 attacks to children, while preaching “Allah is the Almighty,” >> (“allahu akbaar”) reports Elsevier. The leader of what has been called a >> “powerful web of Islamic radicals and terror convicts,” he has also been >> accused of inspiring Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale, in the >> horrific almost-beheading of British soldier Lee Rigby outside the military >> barracks in Woolwich, South East London. In an interview with Al Jazeera, >> Ali denied the allegations. >> >> >> >> Similar situations abound in the Netherlands, most notably at Amsterdam’s >> Blue Mosque, which is governed via an intricate web of organizations and >> finances by the Muslim Brotherhood, owned by the government of Kuwait, and >> led by Kuwait’s Minister of Religious Affairs. Among the speakers invited >> there: Khalid Yasin, known largely for being the inspiration for “underwear >> bomber” Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. >> >> >> >> Closer to home, the Muslim Association of Canada, which has received >> funding from the government of Alberta, has in turn financed Hamas and the >> Islamic Relief and Human Concern International (IRHCI). According to >> documents uploaded to Point de Bascule, a conservative web site based in >> Canada, “On its website, Islamic Relief Canada lists eight categories of >> zakat beneficiaries. These eight categories match exactly the categories >> listed in the Muslim Brotherhood-endorsed manual of sharia Umdat al-Salik.” >> The organization also specifically encourages charity for “Muslims waging >> jihad: those struggling in the path of Allah.” >> >> >> >> Western governments likely are not knowingly funding such projects: but >> as Elsevier points out, “German security agencies have warned for years – >> such as in their annual report for 2007 – that moderate Islamic >> organizations can breed radical groups. While they do not recruit youths >> for the jihad, by encouraging a strong ‘Islamic identity,’ they make the >> risk of radicalization that much greater.” >> >> >> >> Now Europe is proposing new solutions to tidy up this mess. Top among >> them: revoking the passports of those who go to Syria, or who are stopped >> at the border or en route, as in the case of the two families from Huizen. >> >> >> >> But is this really the best answer? The Muslims who make the journey for >> jihad are already radicalized. They have already turned against the West, >> and committed themselves to battling against it – violently, and without >> mercy. Their minds and hearts are with the Islamic State, even as they live >> in Paris or New York, in Amsterdam or Detroit. Withholding their passports >> only keeps them where they are – among us, their enemies, the ones they >> plan to destroy. >> >> >> >> The uncomfortable, tragic truth is we helped create their murderous >> mindsets, their hatred of the West. That was our mistake. We should not >> make another by keeping them here, inside our own homes. Let them go. And >> lock the doors behind them. >> >> >> >> Abigail R. 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