With a thousand bucks or so price on their heads there might soon be a lot less.
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > Not practical.....There are 1.6 Billion Muslims in the world, or 23% of > the world's population: > > > http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/06/07/worlds-muslim-population-more-widespread-than-you-might-think/ > > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Only solution is the complete elimination of Islam and everyone and >> everything associated with it. >> >> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> What a conundrum.....I really don't have the solution or answer as to >>> how to solve this problem, but "A Problem"....It Is..... >>> >>> On the one hand, it seems as though ANYONE who is Islamic and who even >>> remotely seems tied to or supportive of IS(IS) should be deported and >>> their passports confiscated. I don't know how, Constitutionally, we could >>> do this, practically or even in theory, especially as this concept applies >>> to American citizens. I could fathom such a program to those who are not >>> citizens, or who are "Naturalized" Citizens. >>> >>> No matter, we have got to stem this problem, both here in the United >>> States as well as in Europa. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/09/14/where-did-the-islamic-state-come-from/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Where Did the Islamic State Come From? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ISIS captor with David Haines. Photo: SITE Intel screenshot. >>>> >>>> The simple answer – and the one you’ll hear most often – is that IS, or >>>> Islamic State (formerly ISIS) emerged out of al-Qaeda, gathering strength >>>> through the ongoing civil war in Syria and unrest in Iraq. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But that’s only part of the story: the rest is based in Europe (and >>>> even in America), where governments have continually – if unwittingly – >>>> financed programs that breed radicalization in Muslim communities there. >>>> Now, more and more of those radical Muslims, most born and bred in the >>>> West, are joining IS and its jihad; and in their efforts to prevent it, >>>> Europe’s leaders in particular may in fact be strengthening the threat. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In fact, as IS strengthens its grip in Iraq, European Muslim youth are >>>> increasingly drawn to join. Following the gruesome horror of IS’s >>>> beheadings and executions these past few weeks, the number of Belgian youth >>>> heading off to join the terrorist group in Syria increased significantly, >>>> according to Belgian security agency OCAP. Noted Belgium’s Nieuwsblad: “The >>>> recent increase is striking, and is according to our information partly >>>> explainable by the enormous amount of propaganda that ISIS produces on >>>> social media. The spread of shocking images, such as the mass execution of >>>> 250 Syrian soldiers, and the execution of American journalist James Foley, >>>> seem only to send Muslim youth towards radicalization.” >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It’s not just in Belgium. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Last week, Dutch officials arrested two families from the town of >>>> Huizen as they prepared to join the jihad in Syria, confiscating the >>>> passports of all parents and their six children, aged eight months to nine >>>> years old. Around the same time, the Dutch-American radical known as >>>> Jermaine W successfully departed for Syria with his wife and children. >>>> Jermaine, whose father was American, is well known in the Netherlands as a >>>> member of Holland’s extremist Hofstadgroep, and as a friend of Hofstadgroep >>>> leader Mohammed Bouyeri, the terrorist killer of filmmaker Theo van Gogh. >>>> Jermaine was arrested in 2004 for a letter in which he outlined plans to >>>> murder activist and then-Parliamentarian Ayaan Hirsi Ali, but was released >>>> in 2006 on the basis of “insufficient evidence.” >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Many of these European jihadists, like Jermaine, travel with their >>>> children, whom they then place in jihadist training camps in the hopes of >>>> producing a new, stronger generation of Islamic warriors for the Islamic >>>> State. Recent reporting from VICE shows a Belgian father coaching his very >>>> young son to kill “unbelievers,” while other children play and train with >>>> rifles. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But the problem did not begin with emigration to Syria. It began with >>>> the radicalization of these Muslims while they lived on European soil, >>>> attended European mosques and joined European programs for Muslim youth – >>>> programs frequently created in an effort to prevent such radicalization. >>>> But according to a report in Dutch newsweekly Elsevier, many presumably >>>> moderate mosques have used government funds to subsidize visits from >>>> extremist imams such as Usman Ali, who has given speeches at the Greenwich >>>> Islamic Center. Ali’s fee, according to Elsevier, was paid through a >>>> €75,000 government subsidy ostensibly aimed at “preventing radicalization.” >>>> By 2010, when government subsidies to the center had expanded to €168,000, >>>> Ali was serving on its board. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Just who is Usman Ali? Among other things, he is known for showing >>>> videos of the 9/11 attacks to children, while preaching “Allah is the >>>> Almighty,” (“allahu akbaar”) reports Elsevier. The leader of what has been >>>> called a “powerful web of Islamic radicals and terror convicts,” he has >>>> also been accused of inspiring Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale, in >>>> the horrific almost-beheading of British soldier Lee Rigby outside the >>>> military barracks in Woolwich, South East London. In an interview with Al >>>> Jazeera, Ali denied the allegations. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Similar situations abound in the Netherlands, most notably at >>>> Amsterdam’s Blue Mosque, which is governed via an intricate web of >>>> organizations and finances by the Muslim Brotherhood, owned by the >>>> government of Kuwait, and led by Kuwait’s Minister of Religious Affairs. >>>> Among the speakers invited there: Khalid Yasin, known largely for being the >>>> inspiration for “underwear bomber” Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Closer to home, the Muslim Association of Canada, which has received >>>> funding from the government of Alberta, has in turn financed Hamas and the >>>> Islamic Relief and Human Concern International (IRHCI). According to >>>> documents uploaded to Point de Bascule, a conservative web site based in >>>> Canada, “On its website, Islamic Relief Canada lists eight categories of >>>> zakat beneficiaries. These eight categories match exactly the categories >>>> listed in the Muslim Brotherhood-endorsed manual of sharia Umdat al-Salik.” >>>> The organization also specifically encourages charity for “Muslims waging >>>> jihad: those struggling in the path of Allah.” >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Western governments likely are not knowingly funding such projects: but >>>> as Elsevier points out, “German security agencies have warned for years – >>>> such as in their annual report for 2007 – that moderate Islamic >>>> organizations can breed radical groups. While they do not recruit youths >>>> for the jihad, by encouraging a strong ‘Islamic identity,’ they make the >>>> risk of radicalization that much greater.” >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Now Europe is proposing new solutions to tidy up this mess. Top among >>>> them: revoking the passports of those who go to Syria, or who are stopped >>>> at the border or en route, as in the case of the two families from Huizen. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But is this really the best answer? The Muslims who make the journey >>>> for jihad are already radicalized. They have already turned against the >>>> West, and committed themselves to battling against it – violently, and >>>> without mercy. Their minds and hearts are with the Islamic State, even as >>>> they live in Paris or New York, in Amsterdam or Detroit. Withholding their >>>> passports only keeps them where they are – among us, their enemies, the >>>> ones they plan to destroy. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The uncomfortable, tragic truth is we helped create their murderous >>>> mindsets, their hatred of the West. That was our mistake. We should not >>>> make another by keeping them here, inside our own homes. Let them go. And >>>> lock the doors behind them. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Abigail R. 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