The Catholic Church as an entity provides charitable relief to any person 
in need.  
I have no qualms with that.
---
even when they provide aid and support to illegals?

Your suggestion that "jews" promote open borders is presumptive, 
Anti-Semitic, and not at all even remotely correct
---
wrong again, zioboy.

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Jews in America are 100 percent united in demanding “open borders” and 
“immigration reform”—but at the same time hypocritically support Israel 
which now uses DNA tests on potential immigrants in order to keep the 
Jewish state racially pure.

Just this past weekend, nearly 1,300 rabbis and a number of cantors from 
all streams of American Jewry joined together to call on the US Congress to 
pass comprehensive immigration reform.

In a letter sent to the Congress, which they also published on their website 
<http://rac.org/Articles/index.cfm?id=23267&pge_prg_id=16390&pge_id=2541>, 
the rabbis said that immigration reform was “in keeping” with the “Jewish 
High Holy Days” demand of “the spirit of self-examination as individuals 
and as a society.”

The letter was signed by leading clergy of the Reform, Conservative, 
Orthodox, and Reconstructionist movements and called for “common sense 
immigration reform” to reflect a “shared commitment to a path to 
citizenship, improved family reunification policies, humane and effective 
border security, sensible worker visa policies, and avenues for refugees 
and asylum seekers.”

The letter went on to say that Jewish history “coupled with the most-often 
repeated Biblical commandment to love the stranger inspires our advocacy 
for immigration reform…”
[image: Sammie Moshenberg, operations director of the Washington NJWC gives 
Communist salute during sit-in pro-immigration protest in D.C. this past 
week.]Sammie Moshenberg, operations director of the Washington NJWC gives 
Communist salute during sit-in pro-immigration protest in D.C. this past 
week.

This is not the only such statement by the organized Jewish community in 
America. Just this past week, the director of Washington operations for the 
National Council of Jewish Women, Sammie Moshenberg , was among more than 
100 activists arrested for a “sit-in” pro-immigration protest at the US 
Capitol building. 
<http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/national-news/jewish-womens-group-head-among-100-arrested-immigration-protest>

The American Jewish Congress (AJC), the single largest Jewish organization 
in America, has a special advocacy group set up to promote “immigration 
reform.”

According to the AJC website devoted specially to promoting nonwhite 
immigration into America 
<http://www.ajc.org/site/c.7oJILSPwFfJSG/b.8467015/k.CC42/Immigration_Reform.htm>,
 
that Jewish organization boasts that it “promotes a fair and just 
immigration policy consistent with our position that a strong America is 
vital for global freedom and security.

[image: AJC1]

“National conflict over immigration undermines America’s strength and our 
country’s commitment to democratic and humanitarian values. With our shared 
immigrant experience, the Jewish people understand that upholding the 
rights of immigrants is vital to a strong America,” the AJC says.

An article in the Jewish newspaper, the *Daily Forward,* announced that “Jews 
Unite Behind Push for Immigration Reform 
<http://forward.com/articles/179296/jews-unite-behind-push-for-immigration-reform/?p=all>”
 
and significantly added that “Ethics and Self-Interest Drive Unusual 
Nationwide Effort.”

[image: forward012]

The *Daily Forward* article says that those “leading an active push for the 
[immigration reform] bill, which will offer a path to citizenship for some 
of the nation’s 11 million undocumented aliens, include the Hebrew 
Immigrant Aid Society, the American Jewish Committee, the Anti-Defamation 
League, the Jewish Council for Public Affairs, Bend the Arc and the 
National Council of Jewish Women.

“The Senate vote—and the even harder struggle that will follow in the 
Republican-controlled House—represents the fulfillment of a sustained 
campaign by the Jewish community for immigration reform, which has built 
momentum over the past decade.

Quoting the president and CEO  of an organization called the Hebrew 
Immigrant Aid Society (HIAS)—which used to promote Jewish immigration, but 
now promotes all nonwhite immigration into America,  Mark Hetfield, the*Daily 
Forward* said Jews promoted immigration because it was in their ‘strategic 
interest.’

“It’s the ethical thing to do,” said HIAS president and CEO, of the 
community’s immigration reform activism. But he quickly added, “It’s in our 
strategic interest.”

However, in Israel—which all of these Jewish organizations and individuals 
quoted above support fanatically—an immigration policy which is the exact 
opposite is rigorously enforced.

Israel’s “Law of Return” immigration policy is actually based upon the Nazi 
Nuremburg race laws, which defined a Jew as anyone with two or more Jewish 
grandparents.

This law of return is not based on religion—because Jewish atheists also 
qualify for settlement in Israel. They do not have to be believing Jews to 
come to Israel—all they have to have is biological Jewish ancestry.

In addition, it is illegal for Jews to marry non-Jews in Israel 
<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/12/israel-civil-marriage-ban_n_3429764.html>—another
 
direct carryover from the Nazi laws concerning race.

[image: jewish-marriage1]

Israel also has a zero tolerance policy for asylum seekers. They have set 
up concentration camps in which thousands of Africans are interred awaiting 
deportation 
<http://972mag.com/photo-essay-a-desert-prison-built-to-hold-thousand-of-refugees/58970/>,
 
and most recently, the Jewish state announced that it was deporting all 
Africans to Uganda, no matter which country they originally came from. 
<http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/30/israel-plan-deport-african-migrants-uganda>
[image: Israeli concentration in southern Israel set up to hold African 
asylum seekers.] 
<http://972mag.com/photo-essay-a-desert-prison-built-to-hold-thousand-of-refugees/58970/>*Israeli
 
concentration in southern Israel set up to hold African asylum seekers.*

[image: israel-deports-Africans1]

Finally, Israel has recently announced that it is to start testing 
immigrants for Jewish DNA before allowing them to settle in Israel. 
<http://newobserveronline.com/israel-starts-using-dna-to-check-for-jewishness-of-immigrants/>
 This 
significant move (because it confirms a biological basis to Judaism) came 
about because of concern in Israel over suspected non-Jews entering Israel 
from the former Soviet Union countries.

[image: TOI-DNA2]

Israel, therefore, has a completely racially-based immigration policy, and 
only allows people of biological Jewish descent to immigrate to that nation.

This policy is directly contradictory to the position taken by Jewish 
groups in America and other European nations—yet these same Jewish 
organizations will defend Israel to the last.

To put this into perspective: If America, or any nation for that matter, 
had to adopt racially based immigration policies and check the DNA of 
potential immigrants before allowing them to settle, these Jewish 
organizations would be up in arms and screaming “Nazi” and “holocaust” from 
the rooftops.

Yet Israel can adopt such policies without anyone raising so much as a peep 
of protest. On the contrary, these same Jewish organizations will 
fanatically support Israel’s “right to be a Jewish state.”

On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 12:24:21 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> The Catholic Church as an entity provides charitable relief to any person 
> in need.  
>
> I have no qualms with that.
>
> Your suggestion that "jews" promote open borders is presumptive, 
> Anti-Semitic, and not at all even remotely correct
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Bear Guy <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> You continually conflate American Jews with Israelis. They are not the 
>> same thing. 
>>
>> As Ben Shapiro explains here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5IqH7oJ9h4
>>
>>
>>
>> Thatbearguy
>> @Thatbearguy
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22 October 2015 at 12:23, plainolamerican <[email protected] 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> ​Then maybe you need to reconsider your premise?
>>> ---
>>> not at all.
>>> regardless of their political affiliation ... catholics provide more aid 
>>> and support to illegals than anyone and jews promote open borders and 
>>> amnesty in America but not israel.
>>>
>>> Rabbi Mark Diamond stood on the border with Mexico on a brisk February 
>>> day, alongside the Rev. Alexei Smith of the Catholic Archdiocese, the Rev. 
>>> Mary Glasspool of the Episcopal Diocese and a host of clergy from 
>>> Presbyterian, Methodist and United Church of Christ ministries.
>>>
>>> All of them peered through the corrugated steel wall at the rough miles 
>>> between countries. The scene evoked thoughts of the old adage Mexicans 
>>> invoke about their country: “So far from God, so close to the United 
>>> States!”
>>>
>>> Diamond, the American Jewish Committee’s Los Angeles director, who 
>>> arranged the clerics’ 25-member fact-finding mission, is hoping to bridge a 
>>> comparable distance — between a life of promise and a life of uncertainty — 
>>> for millions of noncitizens in the United States.
>>>
>>> Diamond’s key role in organizing this gathering was no isolated communal 
>>> act. After months of delay, the U.S. Senate is set to vote on the most 
>>> comprehensive immigration reform legislation in 27 years. And Jewish groups 
>>> across the country are acting together in a way characteristic of the 
>>> community on few issues besides Israel.
>>>
>>> “It’s about the right thing to do,” said Robert Gittelson, co-founder of 
>>> Conservatives for Comprehensive Immigration Reform, and a Republican. In 
>>> op-ed pieces and interviews, Gittelson, a retired Jewish businessman from 
>>> California’s San Fernando Valley, has called certain GOP strategies on 
>>> immigration reform “un-biblical” and “cruel.”
>>>
>>> Those leading an active push for the bill, which will offer a path to 
>>> citizenship for some of the nation’s 11 million undocumented aliens, 
>>> include the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, the American Jewish Committee, 
>>> the Anti-Defamation League, the Jewish Council for Public Affairs, Bend the 
>>> Arc and the National Council of Jewish Women.
>>>
>>> The Senate vote — and the even harder struggle that will follow in the 
>>> Republican-controlled House — represents the fulfillment of a sustained 
>>> campaign by the Jewish community for immigration reform, which has built 
>>> momentum over the past decade.
>>>
>>> Whether or not the necessary votes are mustered from both houses to land 
>>> a historic immigration law reform bill on President Obama’s desk, Jewish 
>>> outreach, particularly in the Southwest — home to the largest share of 
>>> America’s emerging and increasingly powerful ethnic and interfaith 
>>> populations — promises to be politically and socially influential beyond 
>>> the issue it addresses.
>>>
>>> California, with 2.6 million undocumented residents, is a front line in 
>>> the battle for this reform. And a Jewish establishment ever mindful of its 
>>> need to operate through alliances and coalitions to advance its own 
>>> interests is not blind to the implications of the issue in a country whose 
>>> demography is shifting rapidly. In addition to working with Latino groups, 
>>> the ADL’s Southwest regional office has forged alliances with Asian groups 
>>> representing undocumented Koreans, Chinese, Filipino and other Asian 
>>> Pacific immigrants in the Southland.
>>>
>>> “It’s the ethical thing to do,” said HIAS president and CEO Mark 
>>> Hetfield, of the community’s immigration reform activism. But he quickly 
>>> added, “It’s in our strategic interest.”
>>>
>>> Angelica Salas, executive director of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant 
>>> Rights of Los Angeles, reflects the deepening relationship that Jewish 
>>> groups are developing through their visibility on the immigration issue.
>>>
>>> “I really admire the way that the Jewish community has gone deep in 
>>> support of immigration reform,” Salas told the Forward. A 15-year veteran 
>>> of immigration rights activism, Salas fondly recalled a 2006 mass 
>>> mobilization, when a procession through L.A. streets began with a cantor 
>>> blowing a shofar and singing “Let my people stay!”
>>>
>>> Salas counted efforts by Jewish organizations as second only to Catholic 
>>> groups in their impact. A key factor, she said, is that HIAS and the AJC, 
>>> founded at the height of Jewish immigration more than a century ago, have a 
>>> built-up institutional expertise at integrating new arrivals into American 
>>> society, with programs, legal resources and family services already in 
>>> place — but now serving Spanish speakers instead of Yiddish.
>>>
>>> The Ford Foundation recently awarded a two-year $1 million grant to the 
>>> AJC’s Bridging America Project, which is planning “joint advocacy workshops 
>>> in Dallas, New York and Washington, D.C.; a ‘national conversation’ among 
>>> Latino and Jewish leaders about issues of mutual concern, and conferences 
>>> in Houston, Miami and New Jersey on the economic benefits of immigration, 
>>> among other activities.
>>>
>>> Salas has also worked closely with the ADL, which keeps a keen eye on 
>>> extremist groups that have set up vigilante patrols on the border between 
>>> the United States and Mexico. An ADL study reported that “violent incidents 
>>> against illegal immigrants have been brutal and are occurring with greater 
>>> regularity, further intensifying the atmosphere of fear and suspicion on 
>>> both sides of the border.” The ADL has also tracked a rise in hate crimes, 
>>> discrimination cases and bigotry against Latinos.
>>>
>>> In L.A. — a city where Latinos are nearly half the population and whose 
>>> new mayor, Eric Garcetti, boasts both Jewish and Mexican heritage — Salas’s 
>>> group also works with the Progressive Jewish Alliance, the Jewish Labor 
>>> Committee and Bend the Arc, a progressive national Jewish group, in pushing 
>>> for immigrant labor protections.
>>>
>>> “It’s not a one-way street,” Salas said. When it comes to Israel, the 
>>> Latina activist suggested, the two groups’ relationship may help to modify 
>>> anti-Israel viewpoints and foster dialogue rather than demonization. “It 
>>> comes up,” Salas said, referring to the Middle East issue, “and there’s a 
>>> perspective: ‘Isn’t this [U.S. treatment of Latinos] the same as in Israel 
>>> with the Palestinians?’ It’s an opportunity to talk that through, to talk 
>>> in the context of global immigrant policy, where people can be critical, 
>>> but in good faith.”
>>>
>>> Newly arrived Latinos tend to show higher rates of anti-Semitism, said 
>>> Amanda Susskind, the ADL’s Pacific Southwest regional director. She 
>>> attributed the phenomenon, which shows up in surveys, to “exposure to some 
>>> religious teachings.” But the next generation, she said, is no different in 
>>> its relationship with Jews than the rest of Americans.
>>>
>>> Asians are also active in coalitions with Jewish groups addressing 
>>> immigration issues. “We appreciate the partnership with our Jewish allies,” 
>>> said Betty Hung, policy director of the L.A.–based Asian Pacific American 
>>> Legal Center. An estimated 3 million undocumented U.S. residents are Asian. 
>>> California counts the nation’s largest Asian population without legal 
>>> resident status — about 400,000. APALC has been an active participant in 
>>> the ADL’s Asian Jewish Initiative, founded in 2006, which brings together 
>>> civic, business, academic and faith leaders in the L.A. community for 
>>> social mixers, awards dinners and educational programs.
>>>
>>> For all this organizational solidarity, opponents of the reform 
>>> legislation are not hard to find in the Jewish community.
>>>
>>> One outspoken Jewish opponent is Stephen Steinlight, a former director 
>>> of national affairs for AJC who criticizes the bill as “amnesty” for 
>>> illegal immigrants and opposes any “pathway to citizenship” for them.
>>>
>>> “My views changed,” he told the Forward, explaining his break with the 
>>> AJC and his alliance with the conservative Center for Immigrations Studies. 
>>> “AJC made no distinction between legal and illegal immigration,” he said.
>>>
>>> Steinlight, who characterizes the pro-reform Jewish leaders as 
>>> “do-gooders leaning over backwards for the aggrieved,” sees immigration as 
>>> a threat to American workers, especially under-employed African Americans. 
>>> Groups like AJC and HIAS, he said, are “trying to make amends for doing 
>>> nothing for Jews during the Holocaust.”
>>>
>>> Diamond acknowledged that views similar to Steinlight’s are not hard to 
>>> find. “To my dismay, I have heard more than a few voices in the Jewish 
>>> community — rabbis I respect, and other leaders — who have said to me, 
>>> ‘This is not our problem,’” Diamond said. “My response is that this is very 
>>> much a Jewish issue, one of the most critical issues facing us in this 
>>> country, and certainly here in Southern California.”
>>>
>>> For Wendy Braitman, a member of IKAR, the L.A. Jewish congregation led 
>>> by Rabbi Sharon Brous that has made social activism a mitzvah, it’s also 
>>> personal. “I feel like it’s my story,” she said. Braitman embodies the 
>>> grassroots dimension of much of the Jewish activism on this issue. In 
>>> April, Braitman sat in Senator Dianne Feinstein’s Washington office with a 
>>> group of interfaith activists who paid their own way from the California 
>>> lawmaker’s home state to lobby her. “I told her I was Jewish,” said 
>>> Braitman, “and that the issue was of importance to Jews all over the 
>>> country. As Jews we know what it’s like to live in the shadows.”
>>>
>>> On the pro-reform Jewish right, meanwhile, support comes with the some 
>>> of the same caveats that many conservatives have been using to hold up the 
>>> pending legislation: that undocumented residents should be treated as 
>>> lawbreakers who will be subjected to fines and blocked from full 
>>> citizenship even if allowed to stay as permanent residents. Border security 
>>> must also be beefed up, they demand, as a pre-condition to any reform.
>>>
>>> Matthew Brooks, executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, 
>>> emphasized that the final legislative package must be a bill that 
>>> “addresses the challenges of illegal immigration and securing our borders 
>>> in a way that will win the support and trust of the American people.”
>>>
>>> As an entrepreneur who built a successful garment manufacturing 
>>> business, Gittelson is also focused on the bill’s labor implications. For 
>>> one thing, Gittelson would like to see the cap on guest-worker visas — 
>>> topped off in the Senate bill at 200,000 per year — match the actual demand 
>>> for labor, which he says is 300,000 annually at the lowest.
>>>
>>> “The Senate bill shortchanges the economy,” Gittelson maintained. He 
>>> blamed unions for setting the low quota. “We need a free-market solution, 
>>> not a union solution,” he said.
>>>
>>> Gittelson’s CCIR co-founder is Samuel Rodriguez, a politically 
>>> conservative evangelical Christian who is president of the National 
>>> Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference. Despite their reservations, 
>>> Gittelson said, he and Rodriguez are standing with progressives on 
>>> immigration reform. “When it comes to this issue, we see eye to eye, or at 
>>> least 90%.” He has recently joined AJC’s Immigration Task Force.
>>>
>>> In Washington, as the bill has been pulled apart and slapped together, 
>>> the Jewish community has advanced strong arguments for what should be in it 
>>> — and what shouldn’t.
>>>
>>> Family reunification is high on the list of must-haves. Border security 
>>> is ranked low. Border security is a valid concern, Diamond acknowledged, 
>>> something he learned firsthand on his trip to the border near Tijuana. “But 
>>> the issue is how we are deploying our resources,” he said. “Are we 
>>> targeting gun smugglers and sex traffickers, or are we targeting that 
>>> 27-yearold man who’s been deported and is trying to get back to his family?”
>>>
>>> The legislative package submitted to the Senate also notably does not 
>>> include the Uniting American Families Act, sponsored by Vermont Democrat 
>>> Patrick Leahy. This measure would have allowed an American citizen or 
>>> permanent resident who was lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender to 
>>> petition for immigrant status on behalf of his or her same-sex partner as 
>>> an immediate relative.
>>>
>>> This aspect of the bill is crucial to many Jewish activists. A coalition 
>>> of nearly 100 New York interfaith leaders, including 37 rabbis, signed a 
>>> letter to New York Senator Charles Schumer, urging his support for equal 
>>> protections for LGBT Americans and their families. To their dismay, Schumer 
>>> convinced his Democratic colleagues on the Senate Judiciary Committee to 
>>> drop the measure from the bill, arguing that its inclusion would cost the 
>>> support of key Republicans. Citing their own head counts, many of the 
>>> measure’s supporters vehemently reject this argument.
>>>
>>> One victory that was won by Jews is a provision that directly involves 
>>> Jewish interests: The Lautenberg Amendment, first passed in 1989, granted 
>>> immigrant status to victims of religious persecution in their native lands. 
>>> The law allowed the emigration of hundreds of thousands of Soviet Jews and 
>>> was extended in 2004 to cover Christians, Baha’is, Jews and other religious 
>>> minorities fleeing Iran.
>>>
>>> The law continues to assist religious minorities from those countries 
>>> and from Southeast Asia. The new bill makes the law — which previously 
>>> required annual renewal by Congress — permanent. Jewish activists saw that 
>>> win as a fitting tribute to the late New Jersey senator Frank Lautenberg.
>>>
>>> Ira Handelman, chair of AJC’s Los Angeles Public Policy Committee, said 
>>> that if and when the legislation becomes law, the interfaith and 
>>> immigrant-activist coalitions in which Jewish organizations are now 
>>> involved may move on to tackle other issues. These include the ongoing 
>>> national debates over education policy, economic development and social 
>>> justice, apart from immigration.
>>>
>>>
>>> Read more: 
>>> http://forward.com/news/179296/jews-unite-behind-push-for-immigration-reform/#ixzz3pJZ9KYUe
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 11:12:30 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ​Then maybe you need to reconsider your premise?
>>>>
>>>> ​
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:52 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> as if all jews and catholics are democrats.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 10:46:12 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes.  Democrats who wish to see illegal aliens allowed to vote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:26 AM, plainolamerican <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> nobody provides more aid and support to illegals than the catholic 
>>>>>>> and jewish clergy.
>>>>>>> we know who promotes open borders and amnesty and why.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 8:14:25 AM UTC-5, Travis wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://arkansasgopwing.blogspot.com/2015/10/how-senators-voted-on-sanctuary-cities.html
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
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