I understood Plain Ol to be saying that zionists by the nature of zionism require that they occupy what was formerly Palestine and Trans-Jordan ... a land mass!!!
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Regan Duffy <[email protected]> wrote: > Non-sequitoritis strikes again. > > *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* > > > plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > > A Country is not simply the land mass that you occupy. > --- > try telling a zionist that. > > On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 5:10:14 PM UTC-6, fed up wrote: >> >> She was obviously using this approach to illustrate a few concepts that >> progressives are too dull to understand: >> 1. Liberals are constantly redefining terms with long held definitions to >> suit their narrative. >> 2. The term "Native American" is a misnomer since the ancestors of the >> various Indian tribes came from Eurasia by crossing the Bering sea when the >> Bering Strait was frozen, following migrating herds (i.e. they came here to >> exploit the natural resources). The first Americans were thus also >> immigrants. >> 3. Countries are voluntary (or involuntary for those living under >> Communist regimes) associations of people who have made a social contract >> to live by certain rules, including borders. A Country is not simply the >> land mass that you occupy. >> >> These are apparently difficult concepts to comprehend for that segment of >> our society whose thoughts and actions are the outcome of random, hormone >> (or drug) induced neural firings in response to external stimuli. >> >> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* >> >> >> Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> *"Ann is an idiot living off the idiocy of the gop." *Says a Racist >> Anti-Semitic Anti-American..... >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 2:06 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Ann is an idiot living off the idiocy of the gop. >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 1:00:10 PM UTC-6, Travis wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Everyone (or their ancestors) came from somewhere else. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> B >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.mintpressnews.com/ann-coulter-claims-to-be-native-american-because-she-descended-from-settlers/211113/ >>>> Ann Coulter Claims To Be Native American Because She Descended From >>>> Settlers >>>> >>>> [image: Description: Ann Coulter] >>>> >>>> *Ann Coulter* >>>> >>>> Ann Coulter <http://www.anncoulter.com>made a guest appearance on *The >>>> View <http://abc.go.com/shows/the-view>*to promote her latest book *Adios, >>>> America: The Left’s Plan to Turn Our Country Into a Third World Hellhole >>>> <http://www.amazon.com/Adios-America-Lefts-Country-Hellhole-ebook/dp/B00R3L7502>*. >>>> Since Coulter has built an entire career on the shock value of her >>>> political opinions, it is not surprising that this interview was filled >>>> with controversial statements about immigrants, and a questionable >>>> presentation of United States history. >>>> >>>> A couple minutes into the interview >>>> <http://morningafter.gawker.com/watch-the-women-of-the-view-wail-on-ann-coulter-for-fou-1736942566>, >>>> host Ana Navarro <http://abc.go.com/shows/the-view/cast/ana-navarro> >>>> challenged Coulter’s views about immigrants by asking if her family >>>> immigrated to America. Coulter responded to Navarro’s question by stating >>>> that she is actually a Native American because she descended from the early >>>> settlers who founded the United States. Coulter goes on to say that she is >>>> also not an immigrant >>>> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/megan-smolenyak-smolenyak/ann-coulters-immigrant-an_b_8332212.html> >>>> because she does not currently reside on tribal land (even though she >>>> likely does). The interview transcript that is listed below outlines the >>>> conversation between Navarro and Coulter: >>>> >>>> *Ana Navarro:** “What’s your family’s immigration story, right, are >>>> you a Native American?”* >>>> >>>> *Ann Coulter:** “Why, yes I am. I am a settler. I am >>>> descended from settlers—not from immigrants.”* >>>> >>>> *Raven-Symoné:** “So that’s not a Native American, you >>>> are…”* >>>> >>>> *Padma Lakshmi:** “That’s not a Native American, that’s an >>>> immigrant…That’s just a holder…”* >>>> >>>> *Ann Coulter:** “No, if you mean Indian…If you mean >>>> INDIAN…”* >>>> >>>> *Ana Navarro:** “Were you already here when the pilgrims >>>> showed up? Were your people here?”* >>>> >>>> *Ann Coulter:** “Well no, but I am not living in Cherokee >>>> Nation. So, I am not an immigrant to Cherokee Nation. I am living in >>>> America—which was created by settlers, not immigrants.”* >>>> >>>> Although Coulter shares a number of questionable comments throughout >>>> the interview, I would like to focus this discussion on why Coulter chooses >>>> to call herself a Native American. >>>> >>>> Coulter’s beliefs about the history of the United States are steeped in >>>> a Manifest Destiny <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny> >>>> narrative. To Coulter, America came into existence because of the efforts >>>> and ingenuity of early settlers to discover an unoccupied territory and >>>> forge a government. Coulter defends this half-truth by stating that: “[she >>>> is] not living in Cherokee Nation. So [she is] not an immigrant to Cherokee >>>> Nation. [She is] living in America—which was created by settlers, not >>>> immigrants.” Her views on how America came to be purposefully ignore the >>>> long legacy of aboriginal land ownership. Moreover, she does not >>>> acknowledge that America was not unoccupied when it was “discovered” by >>>> settlers, or the atrocities that were committed against Native people that >>>> resulted in the displacement of these societies to the reservations that >>>> exist today. >>>> >>>> The core of Coulter’s argument against immigration (which is >>>> highlighted in the interview transcript) is that there exists two >>>> classifications of immigrants, (1) the early settlers that predate the >>>> United States, and (2) everyone else. Coulter is not using the term *Native >>>> American* to claim a connection to a Native Nation, rather, she is >>>> using the label as a rhetorical tool to weave a semantic argument. Her >>>> bastardized definition of* Native American* enables her to craft an >>>> artificial (and arguably racist) hierarchy where her ancestry and >>>> individuals sharing a similar background as her are deemed “real >>>> Americans.” In essence, Coulter has given herself the right to define who >>>> belongs in this Country, and who does not. Following Coulter’s argument to >>>> its logical end, neither Native people or anyone who has immigrated in the >>>> last 100 years can fit into Coulter’s narrowed definition of a “real >>>> American.” >>>> >>>> Coulter is soft-selling this Country’s painful history of colonization >>>> in order to spin a more palatable creation story of the United States that >>>> is in alignment with her political orientations, and her understanding of >>>> herself as a “true American.” However, for Coulter to admit that she is >>>> anything other than a *Native American *would weaken her broader >>>> ideological arguments against immigration to a-pot-calling-a-kettle-black >>>> debate. >>>> >>>> *Dr. Christie Poitra holds a PhD in Educational Policy from Michigan >>>> State University, and a Master of Arts degree in American Indian Studies >>>> from UCLA. She writes about tribal governments, educational policy and >>>> politics. 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