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On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 10:43:24 AM UTC-6, fed up wrote: > > How about just actual historical facts regarding the creation of the State > of Israel. It occurred through "diplomatic" channels (backed by military > strength) spearheaded by the Truman administration and the UN at the behest > of, and the consent and cooperation of, the UK. Thus, it clearly required > something more than Jews merely occupying the land mass regardless of how > they feel about it. Hence the non sequitur. I am not being flippant about > this. To concede the observation below as logical, or, even worse, as > precedent, is to go down a rabbit hole which will swallow this country and > the European countries as a result of the invasions that are currently > afoot in both. > > *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* > > > Brian Bednarek <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > > Perhaps you need to learn about zionism and what its goals are!!! > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Regan Duffy <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Non sequiturs piled upon non sequiturs. >> >> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* >> >> >> Brian Bednarek <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: >> >> I understood Plain Ol to be saying that zionists by the nature of zionism >> require that they occupy what was formerly Palestine and Trans-Jordan ... a >> land mass!!! >> >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Regan Duffy <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> Non-sequitoritis strikes again. >>> >>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* >>> >>> >>> plainolamerican <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>> A Country is not simply the land mass that you occupy. >>> --- >>> try telling a zionist that. >>> >>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 5:10:14 PM UTC-6, fed up wrote: >>>> >>>> She was obviously using this approach to illustrate a few concepts that >>>> progressives are too dull to understand: >>>> 1. Liberals are constantly redefining terms with long held definitions >>>> to suit their narrative. >>>> 2. The term "Native American" is a misnomer since the ancestors of the >>>> various Indian tribes came from Eurasia by crossing the Bering sea when >>>> the >>>> Bering Strait was frozen, following migrating herds (i.e. they came here >>>> to >>>> exploit the natural resources). The first Americans were thus also >>>> immigrants. >>>> 3. Countries are voluntary (or involuntary for those living under >>>> Communist regimes) associations of people who have made a social contract >>>> to live by certain rules, including borders. A Country is not simply the >>>> land mass that you occupy. >>>> >>>> These are apparently difficult concepts to comprehend for that segment >>>> of our society whose thoughts and actions are the outcome of random, >>>> hormone (or drug) induced neural firings in response to external stimuli. >>>> >>>> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* >>>> >>>> >>>> Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> *"Ann is an idiot living off the idiocy of the gop." *Says a Racist >>>> Anti-Semitic Anti-American..... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 2:06 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ann is an idiot living off the idiocy of the gop. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 1:00:10 PM UTC-6, Travis wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Everyone (or their ancestors) came from somewhere else. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> B >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.mintpressnews.com/ann-coulter-claims-to-be-native-american-because-she-descended-from-settlers/211113/ >>>>>> Ann Coulter Claims To Be Native American Because She Descended From >>>>>> Settlers >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: Description: Ann Coulter] >>>>>> >>>>>> *Ann Coulter* >>>>>> >>>>>> Ann Coulter <http://www.anncoulter.com>made a guest appearance on *The >>>>>> View <http://abc.go.com/shows/the-view>*to promote her latest book >>>>>> *Adios, >>>>>> America: The Left’s Plan to Turn Our Country Into a Third World Hellhole >>>>>> <http://www.amazon.com/Adios-America-Lefts-Country-Hellhole-ebook/dp/B00R3L7502>*. >>>>>> >>>>>> Since Coulter has built an entire career on the shock value of her >>>>>> political opinions, it is not surprising that this interview was filled >>>>>> with controversial statements about immigrants, and a questionable >>>>>> presentation of United States history. >>>>>> >>>>>> A couple minutes into the interview >>>>>> <http://morningafter.gawker.com/watch-the-women-of-the-view-wail-on-ann-coulter-for-fou-1736942566>, >>>>>> >>>>>> host Ana Navarro <http://abc.go.com/shows/the-view/cast/ana-navarro> >>>>>> challenged Coulter’s views about immigrants by asking if her family >>>>>> immigrated to America. Coulter responded to Navarro’s question by >>>>>> stating >>>>>> that she is actually a Native American because she descended from the >>>>>> early >>>>>> settlers who founded the United States. Coulter goes on to say that she >>>>>> is >>>>>> also not an immigrant >>>>>> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/megan-smolenyak-smolenyak/ann-coulters-immigrant-an_b_8332212.html> >>>>>> >>>>>> because she does not currently reside on tribal land (even though she >>>>>> likely does). The interview transcript that is listed below outlines the >>>>>> conversation between Navarro and Coulter: >>>>>> >>>>>> *Ana Navarro:** “What’s your family’s immigration story, right, are >>>>>> you a Native American?”* >>>>>> >>>>>> *Ann Coulter:** “Why, yes I am. I am a settler. I am >>>>>> descended from settlers—not from immigrants.”* >>>>>> >>>>>> *Raven-Symoné:** “So that’s not a Native American, you >>>>>> are…”* >>>>>> >>>>>> *Padma Lakshmi:** “That’s not a Native American, that’s >>>>>> an immigrant…That’s just a holder…”* >>>>>> >>>>>> *Ann Coulter:** “No, if you mean Indian…If you mean >>>>>> INDIAN…”* >>>>>> >>>>>> *Ana Navarro:** “Were you already here when the pilgrims >>>>>> showed up? Were your people here?”* >>>>>> >>>>>> *Ann Coulter:** “Well no, but I am not living in >>>>>> Cherokee Nation. So, I am not an immigrant to Cherokee Nation. I am >>>>>> living >>>>>> in America—which was created by settlers, not immigrants.”* >>>>>> >>>>>> Although Coulter shares a number of questionable comments throughout >>>>>> the interview, I would like to focus this discussion on why Coulter >>>>>> chooses >>>>>> to call herself a Native American. >>>>>> >>>>>> Coulter’s beliefs about the history of the United States are steeped >>>>>> in a Manifest Destiny >>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny> narrative. To >>>>>> Coulter, America came into existence because of the efforts and >>>>>> ingenuity >>>>>> of early settlers to discover an unoccupied territory and forge a >>>>>> government. Coulter defends this half-truth by stating that: “[she is] >>>>>> not >>>>>> living in Cherokee Nation. So [she is] not an immigrant to Cherokee >>>>>> Nation. >>>>>> [She is] living in America—which was created by settlers, not >>>>>> immigrants.” >>>>>> Her views on how America came to be purposefully ignore the long legacy >>>>>> of >>>>>> aboriginal land ownership. Moreover, she does not acknowledge that >>>>>> America >>>>>> was not unoccupied when it was “discovered” by settlers, or the >>>>>> atrocities >>>>>> that were committed against Native people that resulted in the >>>>>> displacement >>>>>> of these societies to the reservations that exist today. >>>>>> >>>>>> The core of Coulter’s argument against immigration (which is >>>>>> highlighted in the interview transcript) is that there exists two >>>>>> classifications of immigrants, (1) the early settlers that predate the >>>>>> United States, and (2) everyone else. Coulter is not using the term >>>>>> *Native >>>>>> American* to claim a connection to a Native Nation, rather, she is >>>>>> using the label as a rhetorical tool to weave a semantic argument. Her >>>>>> bastardized definition of* Native American* enables her to craft an >>>>>> artificial (and arguably racist) hierarchy where her ancestry and >>>>>> individuals sharing a similar background as her are deemed “real >>>>>> Americans.” In essence, Coulter has given herself the right to define >>>>>> who >>>>>> belongs in this Country, and who does not. Following Coulter’s argument >>>>>> to >>>>>> its logical end, neither Native people or anyone who has immigrated in >>>>>> the >>>>>> last 100 years can fit into Coulter’s narrowed definition of a “real >>>>>> American.” >>>>>> >>>>>> Coulter is soft-selling this Country’s painful history of >>>>>> colonization in order to spin a more palatable creation story of the >>>>>> United >>>>>> States that is in alignment with her political orientations, and her >>>>>> understanding of herself as a “true American.” However, for Coulter to >>>>>> admit that she is anything other than a *Native American *would >>>>>> weaken her broader ideological arguments against immigration to >>>>>> a-pot-calling-a-kettle-black debate. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Dr. Christie Poitra holds a PhD in Educational Policy from Michigan >>>>>> State University, and a Master of Arts degree in American Indian Studies >>>>>> from UCLA. She writes about tribal governments, educational policy and >>>>>> politics. 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