resident Anti-American continues with his vicious hateful smear and Anti-American rhetoric...... --- suck on it, zionist pig.
On Thursday, December 3, 2015 at 4:48:24 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: > > You should read the article Brine, it might surprise you. The article is > well written. > > Meanwhile, I resident Anti-American continues with his vicious hateful > smear and Anti-American rhetoric...... > > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> The title negates it: >> Guns Don’t Kill People—Liberals Kill PeopleA blanket attack on >> "liberals" is never a good way to get your point across!!! >> >> I do believe that sick people kill and that a responsible person should >> be allowed to own a gun, that's where background checks come in!!! We need >> better mental health screening, not bans on guns!!! >> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> I thought this was an excellent column, and worth the read. Dunkin is >>> "Spot On' here, although I am quite sure there will be some Progressives >>> who will disagree with him: >>> >>> You think individual left-wing fruitcakes on Ritalin are dangerous? Just >>> wait until left-wing government gets into power without a citizenry that is >>> broadly and heavily armedGuns Don’t Kill People—Liberals Kill People >>> [image: Author] >>> By Tim Dunkin -- Bio and Archives >>> <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/members/75831/TimDunkin/467> >>> *October >>> 6, 2015* >>> 86 Comments <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article-disqus/75831> >>> | Print friendly >>> <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/print-friendly/75831> | Subscribe >>> <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/About-us/> | Email Us >>> <javascript:> >>> >>> >>> By now the reader is well aware of the recent school shooting that took >>> place at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon. Another mass >>> shooting, another excuse for the left-wing vultures to prey on the >>> carcasses of the dead. Another opportunity for Pres__ent Obama to >>> grandstand and huff and sigh and affect an air of righteous indignation. >>> Another occasion for left-wingers to roll their eyes and complain about >>> how, even after this shooting, those dastardly right-wingers still won’t >>> support “common sense gun laws.” >>> >>> The reason we don’t, of course, is because the left-wingers are still >>> making the same old, nonsensical, discredited arguments that they always >>> do. As always, the ideas they’re floating *yet again* would do nothing >>> to stop a mass shooting such as occurred at UCC. They propose universal >>> background checks after a case in which the shooter passed the stringent >>> background checks that Oregon already imposes. They want to ban “assault >>> rifles” and “high-capacity magazines” in response to a shooting spree which >>> involved neither. They have literally no new ideas for dealing with these >>> mass shootings, so it’s not surprising that normal people will continue to >>> reject their “solutions.” Essentially, the left-wing solution is to punish >>> millions of people who didn’t commit a crime. >>> >>> But what we need to understand is that those on the Left *cannot* really >>> bring themselves to deal with these shootings in a rational manner, nor can >>> they really produce reasonable plans for preventing them in the future, >>> simply because the policies and predilections of the*liberals >>> themselves* are ultimately root causes of these mass shootings. >>> >>> First and most obvious is the phenomenon of “gun free zones.” Liberals >>> love them. So do mass shooters. Whenever you hear about a mass shooting, >>> before you learn anything else about the situation, you can be guaranteed >>> that the venue where it took place was a gun-free zone. You don’t see mass >>> shootings at gun stores or shooting ranges for the same reason you don’t >>> see doughnut shops setting up franchises inside a Gold’s Gym. The whole >>> environment would render the attempt completely futile. So instead of >>> choosing a tougher nut to crack, people like Chris Harper-Mercer and James >>> Holmes choose places that they can be reasonably certain no one will be >>> likely to shoot back. >>> >>> The problem, of course, is that this isn’t just a theoretical argument >>> that has no real-world ramifications. People get killed in gun-free zones. >>> And the left-wingers who put those zones into place are directly >>> responsible for the taking of those innocent lives. They enable people like >>> Harper-Mercer to have a target-rich environment. They disable good people >>> from being able to defend themselves and other innocents. >>> >>> Further, the left-wingers have succeeded in inculcating a lot of folks >>> with the attitude of, “I shouldn’t defend myself, I should just wait for >>> the police to show up.” Let’s remember, though, that even the fastest >>> police response is far slower than a pull of the trigger finger. As Umpqua >>> was the latest to show, a psycho can shoot dozens before the police get >>> there. Gun-free zones only serve to reinforce this sort of >>> counter-productive and dangerous attitude because they instill the false >>> hope that should something happen, the police will be there to do more than >>> just clean up the mess and take statements from the survivors. In most >>> cases, however, they will not, which means that for those present with the >>> shooter, there is no credible means of defending themselves *in situ*. >>> >>> One argument for more gun control that the lefties will make is that we >>> need to keep the guns out of the hands of the crazy people. In principle I >>> agree—we *should *keep guns out of the hands of crazy people. But the >>> problem is that the Left has made it so difficult to identify and interdict >>> crazy people before they go off the deep end and actually do something >>> crazy, that it is practically impossible to prevent the crazies from doing >>> crazy things. >>> >>> Beginning in the 1960s, the Left made a “cause” out of “destigmatizing” >>> mental illness. As a result of this, many institutions—which used to be >>> known by the gauche and un-politically correct name of “insane >>> asylums”—gradually began shuffling their inmates out the door. One effect >>> of this was to vastly increase the number of mentally ill individuals >>> living on the streets, or ending up in prison. >>> Another long-term effect of this left wing-driven movement against >>> institutionalization was to replace genuine care with medication. And this >>> is another commonality between all of these mass shootings—each of the >>> shooters was a young male who was taking, or had taken, one or more >>> behavior-altering psychotropic drug. Instead of investigating and dealing >>> with those who begin to show genuine signs of mental illness, the easy and >>> politically correct route is simply to “give ‘em meds.” These meds, in >>> turn, also carry with them side effects such as depression, anxiety, >>> paranoia, and others. Even otherwise healthy young men are given Ritalin, >>> Prozac, and other drugs in school under the guise of treating their “ADHD” >>> (which most often is not) because the effeminized educational system would >>> rather drug them than simply deal with active boys being active boys—female >>> teachers in the publik skoolz often seem to want to turn these boys into >>> docile little lambs like the little girls are in their classrooms rather >>> than do the heavy lifting of shaping, molding, and directing these boys. >>> These drugs, however, will often warp the minds of these boys, creating >>> mental problems and making them more likely to display the personality >>> traits associated with mass shooters. >>> >>> Having discussed these other areas, let’s turn to the elephant in the >>> room that the Left desperately wants to avoid talking about. >>> Mass shooters that we have seen have been—(almost) without >>> exception—denizens of the Left. >>> >>> The mass shooters that we have seen have been—(almost) without >>> exception—denizens of the Left. Take this latest shooter, Chris >>> Harper-Mercer. Here you have a guy who had a well-known hatred of >>> “organized religion” and who specifically targeted Christians during his >>> rampage. His social media footprint indicates that he supported the Black >>> Lives Matter movement and expressed admiration >>> <http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/01/umpqua-gunman-id-d-as-chris-harper-mercer.html> >>> for >>> Vester Flanagan, the black supremacist who shot two white reporters dead in >>> August. He was a supporter of the marxist IRA (Irish Republican Army), and >>> stated on internet forums that he wanted to “strike back” at >>> “normals”—which is a sarcastic term sometimes used by socially disaffected >>> people on the Left to describe all the people like you and me who don’t >>> support “social justice” and political correctness and all the rest. >>> >>> It’s interesting that the media and the Left seem to have an >>> understanding that this is the case, for they initially made some >>> underhanded efforts at casting Harper-Mercer as a “right winger”—and did so >>> by attempting to hack, alter, and misreport information about him. For >>> instance, at one online dating website, Harper-Mercer’s political views >>> were listed as “republican, conservative”—yet it was noted that this was >>> changed (and indeed, the profile was altered five times) *after* the >>> shooter was already dead. Actually, Harper-Mercer was registered >>> <http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d79_1443808511> to Oregon’s Independent >>> Party, a left-leaning third party that has previously cross-nominated >>> liberal Oregon Democrats like Jeff Merkley and Ben Westlund in 2008 and >>> John Kitzhaber in 2010. In a rather transparent attempt to distance him >>> from ties to Black Lives Matter, the media even altered the image of >>> Harper-Mercer (who is mixed race, with a white father and black mother) to >>> make him appear more white >>> <http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/02/the-curious-case-of-oregon-shooter-chris-harper-mercer-a-social-media-profile-shaped-modified-and-deleted/>. >>> >>> Hilariously, the *LA Times* has even attempted to cast >>> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/10/03/shock-la-times-labels-black-oregon-shooter-as-white-supremacist/> >>> Harper-Mercer >>> as a “white supremacist,” despite his identification as mixed race, his >>> affinity for Vester Flanagan, and his murder of an exclusively white set of >>> victims. >>> >>> The reason they do this is because the Left desperately needs a >>> “right-wing killer” to counterbalance all the left-wing crazies who have >>> perpetrated massing shootings in recent years. >>> >>> But there’s no getting around the data. >>> >>> Jared Laughner, who attempted to assassinate Rep. Gabby Giffords, hated >>> George Bush, hated religion, and went after Giffords because she wasn’t >>> liberal enough. Seung-hui Cho, the Virginia Tech shooter, hated George >>> Bush, hated Republicans, hated religion. James Holmes, the Aurora theater >>> shooter, was connected with the Occupy Wall Street movement, hated >>> Christians, and eventually ended up converting to Islam in prison. Adam >>> Lanza, the Sandy Hook shooter, was reported to have a website dedicated to >>> satan, and hated Christians. Even Craig Stephen Hicks, the atheist who shot >>> three Muslims students in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, in February, hated >>> “religion” of all kinds and could just as easily have vented his >>> frustrations on Christian neighbors. It’s not just shooters, either - >>> Andrew Joseph Stack, the guy who flew his Piper Cub into the IRS building >>> in Austin, Texas, left behind a rambling screed praising Marxism. The only >>> seeming exception to these in recent years would be Dylann Roof, the little >>> sicko who shot up the church in Charleston, South Carolina, back in June, >>> killing nine black parishioners. But even then, we should note that he >>> *SHOT >>> UP A CHURCH* *AND KILLED NINE CHRISTIANS*—not exactly the actions of >>> the stereotypical “radical religious righter” boogeyman that the Left >>> always warns is hiding just over the horizon. >>> >>> It’s really starting to look as if the only way to keep Americans safe >>> is, instead of banning guns, to ban liberals who don’t like Christians. >>> >>> But we can’t do that, of course, because there’s some kind of >>> constitutional amendment against it. And we wouldn’t want to go overturning >>> any constitutional amendments, after all. >>> >>> Oh wait >>> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/03/obama-goes-beyond-mere-gun-control-hints-confiscation/> >>> . >>> >>> At this point, the only way the Left is going to be able to achieve its >>> dream of a gun-free America (except for police and the military and other >>> agents of government, of course) is to overturn the 2ndamendment. They >>> can try to do this legally by amending the Constitution, either with an >>> Article V convention or the more old-fashioned way that has been employed >>> 27 times now. But let’s be realistic—this simply will not happen. They >>> could not get anywhere near the support they would need to even begin to >>> hope to go this route. >>> >>> So the more likely route they will take will be to “repeal” the 2nd >>> amendment >>> illegally. This could be done by simply legislating a ban and subsequent >>> confiscation. It could be achieved via executive order. It could also be >>> realized by ginning up lawsuits that would allow them to steer cases >>> towards left-wing judges, who would then allow the federal courts to >>> “evolve” on this issue and start finding that gun bans and confiscation are >>> “constitutional,” hoping that by the time the cases made their way to the >>> Supreme Court, at least one of the conservative Justices will have been >>> replaced by a liberal. >>> >>> Any of these methods would be completely unconstitutional and would have >>> no legitimacy at all. And should this route be employed, the states and the >>> people should be ready to resist such attempts. The states should stand >>> ready to nullify any such law or ruling, using their constitutionally >>> provided right <http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/dunkin/150904> to >>> judge such legislation as unconstitutional, and hence null and void. At the >>> same time, the body of the people should simply refuse to obey any order to >>> turn in their firearms, as roughly 90% of AR-15 owners in Connecticut >>> reportedly did. Further, the body of the people—the militia who stand in >>> defense of the liberties of this nation—should also be ready to resist, >>> with whatever force is necessary, any violent attempt by our own government >>> to confiscate our guns. When a government makes war on its own people in >>> such a fashion, it immediately loses any claim to obedience, legitimacy, or >>> forbearance on the part of its people. >>> >>> The reason for this is simple. You think individual left-wing fruitcakes >>> on Ritalin are dangerous? Just wait until left-wing *government *gets >>> into power without a citizenry that is broadly and heavily armed. You can >>> ask any survivor of the Soviet, Nazi, Khmer Rouge, Sandinista, or Maoist >>> regimes what happens when the only people who have guns are the agents of >>> government. The abundant evidence from these governments shows that the >>> radical Left does not mind mass killings at all—provided they’re the ones >>> who get to do the killing. >>> >>> The lesson from the Umpqua college shooting is not that we need fewer >>> guns. Instead, it is that we need more of them in the right hands—the hands >>> of law-abiding citizens ready and willing to take action to defend >>> themselves, those around them, and ultimately, the liberties of their >>> nation. >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>> >>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>> * It's active and moderated. 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