after you, jew rectum sucker. On Thursday, December 3, 2015 at 10:38:36 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: > > Eat shit and die asshole. > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:35 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> go fuck your zionist masters, bitch. >> >> On Thursday, December 3, 2015 at 10:15:41 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>> >>> Bite me you towel headed Jihadist! >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:07 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> resident Anti-American continues with his vicious hateful smear and >>>> Anti-American rhetoric...... >>>> --- >>>> suck on it, zionist pig. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, December 3, 2015 at 4:48:24 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You should read the article Brine, it might surprise you. The article >>>>> is well written. >>>>> >>>>> Meanwhile, I resident Anti-American continues with his vicious hateful >>>>> smear and Anti-American rhetoric...... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The title negates it: >>>>>> Guns Don’t Kill People—Liberals Kill PeopleA blanket attack on >>>>>> "liberals" is never a good way to get your point across!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> I do believe that sick people kill and that a responsible person >>>>>> should be allowed to own a gun, that's where background checks come >>>>>> in!!! >>>>>> We need better mental health screening, not bans on guns!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I thought this was an excellent column, and worth the read. Dunkin >>>>>>> is "Spot On' here, although I am quite sure there will be some >>>>>>> Progressives >>>>>>> who will disagree with him: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You think individual left-wing fruitcakes on Ritalin are dangerous? >>>>>>> Just wait until left-wing government gets into power without a >>>>>>> citizenry >>>>>>> that is broadly and heavily armedGuns Don’t Kill People—Liberals >>>>>>> Kill People >>>>>>> [image: Author] >>>>>>> By Tim Dunkin -- Bio and Archives >>>>>>> <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/members/75831/TimDunkin/467> >>>>>>> *October >>>>>>> 6, 2015* >>>>>>> 86 Comments >>>>>>> <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article-disqus/75831> | Print >>>>>>> friendly <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/print-friendly/75831> >>>>>>> | Subscribe <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/About-us/> | Email >>>>>>> Us >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By now the reader is well aware of the recent school shooting that >>>>>>> took place at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon. Another >>>>>>> mass >>>>>>> shooting, another excuse for the left-wing vultures to prey on the >>>>>>> carcasses of the dead. Another opportunity for Pres__ent Obama to >>>>>>> grandstand and huff and sigh and affect an air of righteous >>>>>>> indignation. >>>>>>> Another occasion for left-wingers to roll their eyes and complain about >>>>>>> how, even after this shooting, those dastardly right-wingers still >>>>>>> won’t >>>>>>> support “common sense gun laws.” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The reason we don’t, of course, is because the left-wingers are >>>>>>> still making the same old, nonsensical, discredited arguments that they >>>>>>> always do. As always, the ideas they’re floating *yet again* would >>>>>>> do nothing to stop a mass shooting such as occurred at UCC. They >>>>>>> propose >>>>>>> universal background checks after a case in which the shooter passed >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> stringent background checks that Oregon already imposes. They want to >>>>>>> ban >>>>>>> “assault rifles” and “high-capacity magazines” in response to a >>>>>>> shooting >>>>>>> spree which involved neither. They have literally no new ideas for >>>>>>> dealing >>>>>>> with these mass shootings, so it’s not surprising that normal people >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> continue to reject their “solutions.” Essentially, the left-wing >>>>>>> solution >>>>>>> is to punish millions of people who didn’t commit a crime. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But what we need to understand is that those on the Left *cannot* >>>>>>> really >>>>>>> bring themselves to deal with these shootings in a rational manner, nor >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> they really produce reasonable plans for preventing them in the future, >>>>>>> simply because the policies and predilections of the*liberals >>>>>>> themselves* are ultimately root causes of these mass shootings. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First and most obvious is the phenomenon of “gun free zones.” >>>>>>> Liberals love them. So do mass shooters. Whenever you hear about a mass >>>>>>> shooting, before you learn anything else about the situation, you can >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> guaranteed that the venue where it took place was a gun-free zone. You >>>>>>> don’t see mass shootings at gun stores or shooting ranges for the same >>>>>>> reason you don’t see doughnut shops setting up franchises inside a >>>>>>> Gold’s >>>>>>> Gym. The whole environment would render the attempt completely futile. >>>>>>> So >>>>>>> instead of choosing a tougher nut to crack, people like Chris >>>>>>> Harper-Mercer >>>>>>> and James Holmes choose places that they can be reasonably certain no >>>>>>> one >>>>>>> will be likely to shoot back. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The problem, of course, is that this isn’t just a theoretical >>>>>>> argument that has no real-world ramifications. People get killed in >>>>>>> gun-free zones. And the left-wingers who put those zones into place are >>>>>>> directly responsible for the taking of those innocent lives. They >>>>>>> enable >>>>>>> people like Harper-Mercer to have a target-rich environment. They >>>>>>> disable >>>>>>> good people from being able to defend themselves and other innocents. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Further, the left-wingers have succeeded in inculcating a lot of >>>>>>> folks with the attitude of, “I shouldn’t defend myself, I should just >>>>>>> wait >>>>>>> for the police to show up.” Let’s remember, though, that even the >>>>>>> fastest >>>>>>> police response is far slower than a pull of the trigger finger. As >>>>>>> Umpqua >>>>>>> was the latest to show, a psycho can shoot dozens before the police get >>>>>>> there. Gun-free zones only serve to reinforce this sort of >>>>>>> counter-productive and dangerous attitude because they instill the >>>>>>> false >>>>>>> hope that should something happen, the police will be there to do more >>>>>>> than >>>>>>> just clean up the mess and take statements from the survivors. In most >>>>>>> cases, however, they will not, which means that for those present with >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> shooter, there is no credible means of defending themselves *in >>>>>>> situ*. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One argument for more gun control that the lefties will make is that >>>>>>> we need to keep the guns out of the hands of the crazy people. In >>>>>>> principle >>>>>>> I agree—we *should *keep guns out of the hands of crazy people. But >>>>>>> the problem is that the Left has made it so difficult to identify and >>>>>>> interdict crazy people before they go off the deep end and actually do >>>>>>> something crazy, that it is practically impossible to prevent the >>>>>>> crazies >>>>>>> from doing crazy things. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Beginning in the 1960s, the Left made a “cause” out of >>>>>>> “destigmatizing” mental illness. As a result of this, many >>>>>>> institutions—which used to be known by the gauche and un-politically >>>>>>> correct name of “insane asylums”—gradually began shuffling their >>>>>>> inmates >>>>>>> out the door. One effect of this was to vastly increase the number of >>>>>>> mentally ill individuals living on the streets, or ending up in prison. >>>>>>> Another long-term effect of this left wing-driven movement against >>>>>>> institutionalization was to replace genuine care with medication. And >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> is another commonality between all of these mass shootings—each of the >>>>>>> shooters was a young male who was taking, or had taken, one or more >>>>>>> behavior-altering psychotropic drug. Instead of investigating and >>>>>>> dealing >>>>>>> with those who begin to show genuine signs of mental illness, the easy >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> politically correct route is simply to “give ‘em meds.” These meds, in >>>>>>> turn, also carry with them side effects such as depression, anxiety, >>>>>>> paranoia, and others. Even otherwise healthy young men are given >>>>>>> Ritalin, >>>>>>> Prozac, and other drugs in school under the guise of treating their >>>>>>> “ADHD” >>>>>>> (which most often is not) because the effeminized educational system >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> rather drug them than simply deal with active boys being active >>>>>>> boys—female >>>>>>> teachers in the publik skoolz often seem to want to turn these boys >>>>>>> into >>>>>>> docile little lambs like the little girls are in their classrooms >>>>>>> rather >>>>>>> than do the heavy lifting of shaping, molding, and directing these >>>>>>> boys. >>>>>>> These drugs, however, will often warp the minds of these boys, creating >>>>>>> mental problems and making them more likely to display the personality >>>>>>> traits associated with mass shooters. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Having discussed these other areas, let’s turn to the elephant in >>>>>>> the room that the Left desperately wants to avoid talking about. >>>>>>> Mass shooters that we have seen have been—(almost) without >>>>>>> exception—denizens of the Left. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The mass shooters that we have seen have been—(almost) without >>>>>>> exception—denizens of the Left. Take this latest shooter, Chris >>>>>>> Harper-Mercer. Here you have a guy who had a well-known hatred of >>>>>>> “organized religion” and who specifically targeted Christians during >>>>>>> his >>>>>>> rampage. His social media footprint indicates that he supported the >>>>>>> Black >>>>>>> Lives Matter movement and expressed admiration >>>>>>> <http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/01/umpqua-gunman-id-d-as-chris-harper-mercer.html> >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> Vester Flanagan, the black supremacist who shot two white reporters >>>>>>> dead in >>>>>>> August. He was a supporter of the marxist IRA (Irish Republican Army), >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> stated on internet forums that he wanted to “strike back” at >>>>>>> “normals”—which is a sarcastic term sometimes used by socially >>>>>>> disaffected >>>>>>> people on the Left to describe all the people like you and me who don’t >>>>>>> support “social justice” and political correctness and all the rest. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It’s interesting that the media and the Left seem to have an >>>>>>> understanding that this is the case, for they initially made some >>>>>>> underhanded efforts at casting Harper-Mercer as a “right winger”—and >>>>>>> did so >>>>>>> by attempting to hack, alter, and misreport information about him. For >>>>>>> instance, at one online dating website, Harper-Mercer’s political views >>>>>>> were listed as “republican, conservative”—yet it was noted that this >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> changed (and indeed, the profile was altered five times) *after* the >>>>>>> shooter was already dead. Actually, Harper-Mercer was registered >>>>>>> <http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d79_1443808511> to Oregon’s >>>>>>> Independent Party, a left-leaning third party that has previously >>>>>>> cross-nominated liberal Oregon Democrats like Jeff Merkley and Ben >>>>>>> Westlund >>>>>>> in 2008 and John Kitzhaber in 2010. In a rather transparent attempt to >>>>>>> distance him from ties to Black Lives Matter, the media even altered >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> image of Harper-Mercer (who is mixed race, with a white father and >>>>>>> black >>>>>>> mother) to make him appear more white >>>>>>> <http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/02/the-curious-case-of-oregon-shooter-chris-harper-mercer-a-social-media-profile-shaped-modified-and-deleted/>. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hilariously, the *LA Times* has even attempted to cast >>>>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/10/03/shock-la-times-labels-black-oregon-shooter-as-white-supremacist/> >>>>>>> Harper-Mercer >>>>>>> as a “white supremacist,” despite his identification as mixed race, his >>>>>>> affinity for Vester Flanagan, and his murder of an exclusively white >>>>>>> set of >>>>>>> victims. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The reason they do this is because the Left desperately needs a >>>>>>> “right-wing killer” to counterbalance all the left-wing crazies who >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> perpetrated massing shootings in recent years. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But there’s no getting around the data. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jared Laughner, who attempted to assassinate Rep. Gabby Giffords, >>>>>>> hated George Bush, hated religion, and went after Giffords because she >>>>>>> wasn’t liberal enough. Seung-hui Cho, the Virginia Tech shooter, hated >>>>>>> George Bush, hated Republicans, hated religion. James Holmes, the >>>>>>> Aurora >>>>>>> theater shooter, was connected with the Occupy Wall Street movement, >>>>>>> hated >>>>>>> Christians, and eventually ended up converting to Islam in prison. Adam >>>>>>> Lanza, the Sandy Hook shooter, was reported to have a website dedicated >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> satan, and hated Christians. Even Craig Stephen Hicks, the atheist who >>>>>>> shot >>>>>>> three Muslims students in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, in February, >>>>>>> hated >>>>>>> “religion” of all kinds and could just as easily have vented his >>>>>>> frustrations on Christian neighbors. It’s not just shooters, either - >>>>>>> Andrew Joseph Stack, the guy who flew his Piper Cub into the IRS >>>>>>> building >>>>>>> in Austin, Texas, left behind a rambling screed praising Marxism. The >>>>>>> only >>>>>>> seeming exception to these in recent years would be Dylann Roof, the >>>>>>> little >>>>>>> sicko who shot up the church in Charleston, South Carolina, back in >>>>>>> June, >>>>>>> killing nine black parishioners. But even then, we should note that he >>>>>>> *SHOT >>>>>>> UP A CHURCH* *AND KILLED NINE CHRISTIANS*—not exactly the actions >>>>>>> of the stereotypical “radical religious righter” boogeyman that the >>>>>>> Left >>>>>>> always warns is hiding just over the horizon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It’s really starting to look as if the only way to keep Americans >>>>>>> safe is, instead of banning guns, to ban liberals who don’t like >>>>>>> Christians. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But we can’t do that, of course, because there’s some kind of >>>>>>> constitutional amendment against it. And we wouldn’t want to go >>>>>>> overturning >>>>>>> any constitutional amendments, after all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh wait >>>>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/03/obama-goes-beyond-mere-gun-control-hints-confiscation/> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At this point, the only way the Left is going to be able to achieve >>>>>>> its dream of a gun-free America (except for police and the military and >>>>>>> other agents of government, of course) is to overturn the 2ndamendment. >>>>>>> They can try to do this legally by amending the Constitution, either >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> an Article V convention or the more old-fashioned way that has been >>>>>>> employed 27 times now. But let’s be realistic—this simply will not >>>>>>> happen. >>>>>>> They could not get anywhere near the support they would need to even >>>>>>> begin >>>>>>> to hope to go this route. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So the more likely route they will take will be to “repeal” the 2nd >>>>>>> amendment >>>>>>> illegally. This could be done by simply legislating a ban and >>>>>>> subsequent >>>>>>> confiscation. It could be achieved via executive order. It could also >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> realized by ginning up lawsuits that would allow them to steer cases >>>>>>> towards left-wing judges, who would then allow the federal courts to >>>>>>> “evolve” on this issue and start finding that gun bans and confiscation >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> “constitutional,” hoping that by the time the cases made their way to >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Supreme Court, at least one of the conservative Justices will have been >>>>>>> replaced by a liberal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any of these methods would be completely unconstitutional and would >>>>>>> have no legitimacy at all. And should this route be employed, the >>>>>>> states >>>>>>> and the people should be ready to resist such attempts. The states >>>>>>> should >>>>>>> stand ready to nullify any such law or ruling, using their >>>>>>> constitutionally >>>>>>> provided right <http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/dunkin/150904> to >>>>>>> judge such legislation as unconstitutional, and hence null and void. At >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> same time, the body of the people should simply refuse to obey any >>>>>>> order to >>>>>>> turn in their firearms, as roughly 90% of AR-15 owners in Connecticut >>>>>>> reportedly did. Further, the body of the people—the militia who stand >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> defense of the liberties of this nation—should also be ready to resist, >>>>>>> with whatever force is necessary, any violent attempt by our own >>>>>>> government >>>>>>> to confiscate our guns. When a government makes war on its own people >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> such a fashion, it immediately loses any claim to obedience, >>>>>>> legitimacy, or >>>>>>> forbearance on the part of its people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The reason for this is simple. You think individual left-wing >>>>>>> fruitcakes on Ritalin are dangerous? Just wait until left-wing >>>>>>> *government *gets into power without a citizenry that is broadly >>>>>>> and heavily armed. You can ask any survivor of the Soviet, Nazi, Khmer >>>>>>> Rouge, Sandinista, or Maoist regimes what happens when the only people >>>>>>> who >>>>>>> have guns are the agents of government. The abundant evidence from >>>>>>> these >>>>>>> governments shows that the radical Left does not mind mass killings at >>>>>>> all—provided they’re the ones who get to do the killing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The lesson from the Umpqua college shooting is not that we need >>>>>>> fewer guns. Instead, it is that we need more of them in the right >>>>>>> hands—the >>>>>>> hands of law-abiding citizens ready and willing to take action to >>>>>>> defend >>>>>>> themselves, those around them, and ultimately, the liberties of their >>>>>>> nation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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