Bite me you towel headed Jihadist! On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:07 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote:
> resident Anti-American continues with his vicious hateful smear and > Anti-American rhetoric...... > --- > suck on it, zionist pig. > > On Thursday, December 3, 2015 at 4:48:24 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> You should read the article Brine, it might surprise you. The article is >> well written. >> >> Meanwhile, I resident Anti-American continues with his vicious hateful >> smear and Anti-American rhetoric...... >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The title negates it: >>> Guns Don’t Kill People—Liberals Kill PeopleA blanket attack on >>> "liberals" is never a good way to get your point across!!! >>> >>> I do believe that sick people kill and that a responsible person should >>> be allowed to own a gun, that's where background checks come in!!! We need >>> better mental health screening, not bans on guns!!! >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I thought this was an excellent column, and worth the read. Dunkin is >>>> "Spot On' here, although I am quite sure there will be some Progressives >>>> who will disagree with him: >>>> >>>> You think individual left-wing fruitcakes on Ritalin are dangerous? >>>> Just wait until left-wing government gets into power without a citizenry >>>> that is broadly and heavily armedGuns Don’t Kill People—Liberals Kill >>>> People >>>> [image: Author] >>>> By Tim Dunkin -- Bio and Archives >>>> <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/members/75831/TimDunkin/467> >>>> *October >>>> 6, 2015* >>>> 86 Comments <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article-disqus/75831> >>>> | Print friendly >>>> <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/print-friendly/75831> | Subscribe >>>> <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/About-us/> | Email Us >>>> >>>> >>>> By now the reader is well aware of the recent school shooting that took >>>> place at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon. Another mass >>>> shooting, another excuse for the left-wing vultures to prey on the >>>> carcasses of the dead. Another opportunity for Pres__ent Obama to >>>> grandstand and huff and sigh and affect an air of righteous indignation. >>>> Another occasion for left-wingers to roll their eyes and complain about >>>> how, even after this shooting, those dastardly right-wingers still won’t >>>> support “common sense gun laws.” >>>> >>>> The reason we don’t, of course, is because the left-wingers are still >>>> making the same old, nonsensical, discredited arguments that they always >>>> do. As always, the ideas they’re floating *yet again* would do nothing >>>> to stop a mass shooting such as occurred at UCC. They propose universal >>>> background checks after a case in which the shooter passed the stringent >>>> background checks that Oregon already imposes. They want to ban “assault >>>> rifles” and “high-capacity magazines” in response to a shooting spree which >>>> involved neither. They have literally no new ideas for dealing with these >>>> mass shootings, so it’s not surprising that normal people will continue to >>>> reject their “solutions.” Essentially, the left-wing solution is to punish >>>> millions of people who didn’t commit a crime. >>>> >>>> But what we need to understand is that those on the Left *cannot* really >>>> bring themselves to deal with these shootings in a rational manner, nor can >>>> they really produce reasonable plans for preventing them in the future, >>>> simply because the policies and predilections of the*liberals >>>> themselves* are ultimately root causes of these mass shootings. >>>> >>>> First and most obvious is the phenomenon of “gun free zones.” Liberals >>>> love them. So do mass shooters. Whenever you hear about a mass shooting, >>>> before you learn anything else about the situation, you can be guaranteed >>>> that the venue where it took place was a gun-free zone. You don’t see mass >>>> shootings at gun stores or shooting ranges for the same reason you don’t >>>> see doughnut shops setting up franchises inside a Gold’s Gym. The whole >>>> environment would render the attempt completely futile. So instead of >>>> choosing a tougher nut to crack, people like Chris Harper-Mercer and James >>>> Holmes choose places that they can be reasonably certain no one will be >>>> likely to shoot back. >>>> >>>> The problem, of course, is that this isn’t just a theoretical argument >>>> that has no real-world ramifications. People get killed in gun-free zones. >>>> And the left-wingers who put those zones into place are directly >>>> responsible for the taking of those innocent lives. They enable people like >>>> Harper-Mercer to have a target-rich environment. They disable good people >>>> from being able to defend themselves and other innocents. >>>> >>>> Further, the left-wingers have succeeded in inculcating a lot of folks >>>> with the attitude of, “I shouldn’t defend myself, I should just wait for >>>> the police to show up.” Let’s remember, though, that even the fastest >>>> police response is far slower than a pull of the trigger finger. As Umpqua >>>> was the latest to show, a psycho can shoot dozens before the police get >>>> there. Gun-free zones only serve to reinforce this sort of >>>> counter-productive and dangerous attitude because they instill the false >>>> hope that should something happen, the police will be there to do more than >>>> just clean up the mess and take statements from the survivors. In most >>>> cases, however, they will not, which means that for those present with the >>>> shooter, there is no credible means of defending themselves *in situ*. >>>> >>>> One argument for more gun control that the lefties will make is that we >>>> need to keep the guns out of the hands of the crazy people. In principle I >>>> agree—we *should *keep guns out of the hands of crazy people. But the >>>> problem is that the Left has made it so difficult to identify and interdict >>>> crazy people before they go off the deep end and actually do something >>>> crazy, that it is practically impossible to prevent the crazies from doing >>>> crazy things. >>>> >>>> Beginning in the 1960s, the Left made a “cause” out of “destigmatizing” >>>> mental illness. As a result of this, many institutions—which used to be >>>> known by the gauche and un-politically correct name of “insane >>>> asylums”—gradually began shuffling their inmates out the door. One effect >>>> of this was to vastly increase the number of mentally ill individuals >>>> living on the streets, or ending up in prison. >>>> Another long-term effect of this left wing-driven movement against >>>> institutionalization was to replace genuine care with medication. And this >>>> is another commonality between all of these mass shootings—each of the >>>> shooters was a young male who was taking, or had taken, one or more >>>> behavior-altering psychotropic drug. Instead of investigating and dealing >>>> with those who begin to show genuine signs of mental illness, the easy and >>>> politically correct route is simply to “give ‘em meds.” These meds, in >>>> turn, also carry with them side effects such as depression, anxiety, >>>> paranoia, and others. Even otherwise healthy young men are given Ritalin, >>>> Prozac, and other drugs in school under the guise of treating their “ADHD” >>>> (which most often is not) because the effeminized educational system would >>>> rather drug them than simply deal with active boys being active boys—female >>>> teachers in the publik skoolz often seem to want to turn these boys into >>>> docile little lambs like the little girls are in their classrooms rather >>>> than do the heavy lifting of shaping, molding, and directing these boys. >>>> These drugs, however, will often warp the minds of these boys, creating >>>> mental problems and making them more likely to display the personality >>>> traits associated with mass shooters. >>>> >>>> Having discussed these other areas, let’s turn to the elephant in the >>>> room that the Left desperately wants to avoid talking about. >>>> Mass shooters that we have seen have been—(almost) without >>>> exception—denizens of the Left. >>>> >>>> The mass shooters that we have seen have been—(almost) without >>>> exception—denizens of the Left. Take this latest shooter, Chris >>>> Harper-Mercer. Here you have a guy who had a well-known hatred of >>>> “organized religion” and who specifically targeted Christians during his >>>> rampage. His social media footprint indicates that he supported the Black >>>> Lives Matter movement and expressed admiration >>>> <http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/01/umpqua-gunman-id-d-as-chris-harper-mercer.html> >>>> for >>>> Vester Flanagan, the black supremacist who shot two white reporters dead in >>>> August. He was a supporter of the marxist IRA (Irish Republican Army), and >>>> stated on internet forums that he wanted to “strike back” at >>>> “normals”—which is a sarcastic term sometimes used by socially disaffected >>>> people on the Left to describe all the people like you and me who don’t >>>> support “social justice” and political correctness and all the rest. >>>> >>>> It’s interesting that the media and the Left seem to have an >>>> understanding that this is the case, for they initially made some >>>> underhanded efforts at casting Harper-Mercer as a “right winger”—and did so >>>> by attempting to hack, alter, and misreport information about him. For >>>> instance, at one online dating website, Harper-Mercer’s political views >>>> were listed as “republican, conservative”—yet it was noted that this was >>>> changed (and indeed, the profile was altered five times) *after* the >>>> shooter was already dead. Actually, Harper-Mercer was registered >>>> <http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d79_1443808511> to Oregon’s >>>> Independent Party, a left-leaning third party that has previously >>>> cross-nominated liberal Oregon Democrats like Jeff Merkley and Ben Westlund >>>> in 2008 and John Kitzhaber in 2010. In a rather transparent attempt to >>>> distance him from ties to Black Lives Matter, the media even altered the >>>> image of Harper-Mercer (who is mixed race, with a white father and black >>>> mother) to make him appear more white >>>> <http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/02/the-curious-case-of-oregon-shooter-chris-harper-mercer-a-social-media-profile-shaped-modified-and-deleted/>. >>>> Hilariously, the *LA Times* has even attempted to cast >>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/10/03/shock-la-times-labels-black-oregon-shooter-as-white-supremacist/> >>>> Harper-Mercer >>>> as a “white supremacist,” despite his identification as mixed race, his >>>> affinity for Vester Flanagan, and his murder of an exclusively white set of >>>> victims. >>>> >>>> The reason they do this is because the Left desperately needs a >>>> “right-wing killer” to counterbalance all the left-wing crazies who have >>>> perpetrated massing shootings in recent years. >>>> >>>> But there’s no getting around the data. >>>> >>>> Jared Laughner, who attempted to assassinate Rep. Gabby Giffords, hated >>>> George Bush, hated religion, and went after Giffords because she wasn’t >>>> liberal enough. Seung-hui Cho, the Virginia Tech shooter, hated George >>>> Bush, hated Republicans, hated religion. James Holmes, the Aurora theater >>>> shooter, was connected with the Occupy Wall Street movement, hated >>>> Christians, and eventually ended up converting to Islam in prison. Adam >>>> Lanza, the Sandy Hook shooter, was reported to have a website dedicated to >>>> satan, and hated Christians. Even Craig Stephen Hicks, the atheist who shot >>>> three Muslims students in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, in February, hated >>>> “religion” of all kinds and could just as easily have vented his >>>> frustrations on Christian neighbors. It’s not just shooters, either - >>>> Andrew Joseph Stack, the guy who flew his Piper Cub into the IRS building >>>> in Austin, Texas, left behind a rambling screed praising Marxism. The only >>>> seeming exception to these in recent years would be Dylann Roof, the little >>>> sicko who shot up the church in Charleston, South Carolina, back in June, >>>> killing nine black parishioners. But even then, we should note that he >>>> *SHOT >>>> UP A CHURCH* *AND KILLED NINE CHRISTIANS*—not exactly the actions of >>>> the stereotypical “radical religious righter” boogeyman that the Left >>>> always warns is hiding just over the horizon. >>>> >>>> It’s really starting to look as if the only way to keep Americans safe >>>> is, instead of banning guns, to ban liberals who don’t like Christians. >>>> >>>> But we can’t do that, of course, because there’s some kind of >>>> constitutional amendment against it. And we wouldn’t want to go overturning >>>> any constitutional amendments, after all. >>>> >>>> Oh wait >>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/03/obama-goes-beyond-mere-gun-control-hints-confiscation/> >>>> . >>>> >>>> At this point, the only way the Left is going to be able to achieve its >>>> dream of a gun-free America (except for police and the military and other >>>> agents of government, of course) is to overturn the 2ndamendment. They >>>> can try to do this legally by amending the Constitution, either with an >>>> Article V convention or the more old-fashioned way that has been employed >>>> 27 times now. But let’s be realistic—this simply will not happen. They >>>> could not get anywhere near the support they would need to even begin to >>>> hope to go this route. >>>> >>>> So the more likely route they will take will be to “repeal” the 2nd >>>> amendment >>>> illegally. This could be done by simply legislating a ban and subsequent >>>> confiscation. It could be achieved via executive order. It could also be >>>> realized by ginning up lawsuits that would allow them to steer cases >>>> towards left-wing judges, who would then allow the federal courts to >>>> “evolve” on this issue and start finding that gun bans and confiscation are >>>> “constitutional,” hoping that by the time the cases made their way to the >>>> Supreme Court, at least one of the conservative Justices will have been >>>> replaced by a liberal. >>>> >>>> Any of these methods would be completely unconstitutional and would >>>> have no legitimacy at all. And should this route be employed, the states >>>> and the people should be ready to resist such attempts. The states should >>>> stand ready to nullify any such law or ruling, using their constitutionally >>>> provided right <http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/dunkin/150904> to >>>> judge such legislation as unconstitutional, and hence null and void. At the >>>> same time, the body of the people should simply refuse to obey any order to >>>> turn in their firearms, as roughly 90% of AR-15 owners in Connecticut >>>> reportedly did. Further, the body of the people—the militia who stand in >>>> defense of the liberties of this nation—should also be ready to resist, >>>> with whatever force is necessary, any violent attempt by our own government >>>> to confiscate our guns. When a government makes war on its own people in >>>> such a fashion, it immediately loses any claim to obedience, legitimacy, or >>>> forbearance on the part of its people. >>>> >>>> The reason for this is simple. You think individual left-wing >>>> fruitcakes on Ritalin are dangerous? Just wait until left-wing >>>> *government *gets into power without a citizenry that is broadly and >>>> heavily armed. You can ask any survivor of the Soviet, Nazi, Khmer Rouge, >>>> Sandinista, or Maoist regimes what happens when the only people who have >>>> guns are the agents of government. The abundant evidence from these >>>> governments shows that the radical Left does not mind mass killings at >>>> all—provided they’re the ones who get to do the killing. >>>> >>>> The lesson from the Umpqua college shooting is not that we need fewer >>>> guns. Instead, it is that we need more of them in the right hands—the hands >>>> of law-abiding citizens ready and willing to take action to defend >>>> themselves, those around them, and ultimately, the liberties of their >>>> nation. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>> >>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>> * It's active and moderated. 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