go fuck your zionist masters, bitch. On Thursday, December 3, 2015 at 10:15:41 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: > > Bite me you towel headed Jihadist! > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:07 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> resident Anti-American continues with his vicious hateful smear and >> Anti-American rhetoric...... >> --- >> suck on it, zionist pig. >> >> On Thursday, December 3, 2015 at 4:48:24 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>> >>> You should read the article Brine, it might surprise you. The article >>> is well written. >>> >>> Meanwhile, I resident Anti-American continues with his vicious hateful >>> smear and Anti-American rhetoric...... >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The title negates it: >>>> Guns Don’t Kill People—Liberals Kill PeopleA blanket attack on >>>> "liberals" is never a good way to get your point across!!! >>>> >>>> I do believe that sick people kill and that a responsible person should >>>> be allowed to own a gun, that's where background checks come in!!! We need >>>> better mental health screening, not bans on guns!!! >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I thought this was an excellent column, and worth the read. Dunkin is >>>>> "Spot On' here, although I am quite sure there will be some Progressives >>>>> who will disagree with him: >>>>> >>>>> You think individual left-wing fruitcakes on Ritalin are dangerous? >>>>> Just wait until left-wing government gets into power without a citizenry >>>>> that is broadly and heavily armedGuns Don’t Kill People—Liberals Kill >>>>> People >>>>> [image: Author] >>>>> By Tim Dunkin -- Bio and Archives >>>>> <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/members/75831/TimDunkin/467> >>>>> *October >>>>> 6, 2015* >>>>> 86 Comments >>>>> <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article-disqus/75831> | Print >>>>> friendly <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/print-friendly/75831> >>>>> | Subscribe <http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/About-us/> | Email >>>>> Us >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> By now the reader is well aware of the recent school shooting that >>>>> took place at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon. Another mass >>>>> shooting, another excuse for the left-wing vultures to prey on the >>>>> carcasses of the dead. Another opportunity for Pres__ent Obama to >>>>> grandstand and huff and sigh and affect an air of righteous indignation. >>>>> Another occasion for left-wingers to roll their eyes and complain about >>>>> how, even after this shooting, those dastardly right-wingers still won’t >>>>> support “common sense gun laws.” >>>>> >>>>> The reason we don’t, of course, is because the left-wingers are still >>>>> making the same old, nonsensical, discredited arguments that they always >>>>> do. As always, the ideas they’re floating *yet again* would do >>>>> nothing to stop a mass shooting such as occurred at UCC. They propose >>>>> universal background checks after a case in which the shooter passed the >>>>> stringent background checks that Oregon already imposes. They want to ban >>>>> “assault rifles” and “high-capacity magazines” in response to a shooting >>>>> spree which involved neither. They have literally no new ideas for >>>>> dealing >>>>> with these mass shootings, so it’s not surprising that normal people will >>>>> continue to reject their “solutions.” Essentially, the left-wing solution >>>>> is to punish millions of people who didn’t commit a crime. >>>>> >>>>> But what we need to understand is that those on the Left *cannot* really >>>>> bring themselves to deal with these shootings in a rational manner, nor >>>>> can >>>>> they really produce reasonable plans for preventing them in the future, >>>>> simply because the policies and predilections of the*liberals >>>>> themselves* are ultimately root causes of these mass shootings. >>>>> >>>>> First and most obvious is the phenomenon of “gun free zones.” Liberals >>>>> love them. So do mass shooters. Whenever you hear about a mass shooting, >>>>> before you learn anything else about the situation, you can be guaranteed >>>>> that the venue where it took place was a gun-free zone. You don’t see >>>>> mass >>>>> shootings at gun stores or shooting ranges for the same reason you don’t >>>>> see doughnut shops setting up franchises inside a Gold’s Gym. The whole >>>>> environment would render the attempt completely futile. So instead of >>>>> choosing a tougher nut to crack, people like Chris Harper-Mercer and >>>>> James >>>>> Holmes choose places that they can be reasonably certain no one will be >>>>> likely to shoot back. >>>>> >>>>> The problem, of course, is that this isn’t just a theoretical argument >>>>> that has no real-world ramifications. People get killed in gun-free >>>>> zones. >>>>> And the left-wingers who put those zones into place are directly >>>>> responsible for the taking of those innocent lives. They enable people >>>>> like >>>>> Harper-Mercer to have a target-rich environment. They disable good people >>>>> from being able to defend themselves and other innocents. >>>>> >>>>> Further, the left-wingers have succeeded in inculcating a lot of folks >>>>> with the attitude of, “I shouldn’t defend myself, I should just wait for >>>>> the police to show up.” Let’s remember, though, that even the fastest >>>>> police response is far slower than a pull of the trigger finger. As >>>>> Umpqua >>>>> was the latest to show, a psycho can shoot dozens before the police get >>>>> there. Gun-free zones only serve to reinforce this sort of >>>>> counter-productive and dangerous attitude because they instill the false >>>>> hope that should something happen, the police will be there to do more >>>>> than >>>>> just clean up the mess and take statements from the survivors. In most >>>>> cases, however, they will not, which means that for those present with >>>>> the >>>>> shooter, there is no credible means of defending themselves *in situ*. >>>>> >>>>> One argument for more gun control that the lefties will make is that >>>>> we need to keep the guns out of the hands of the crazy people. In >>>>> principle >>>>> I agree—we *should *keep guns out of the hands of crazy people. But >>>>> the problem is that the Left has made it so difficult to identify and >>>>> interdict crazy people before they go off the deep end and actually do >>>>> something crazy, that it is practically impossible to prevent the crazies >>>>> from doing crazy things. >>>>> >>>>> Beginning in the 1960s, the Left made a “cause” out of >>>>> “destigmatizing” mental illness. As a result of this, many >>>>> institutions—which used to be known by the gauche and un-politically >>>>> correct name of “insane asylums”—gradually began shuffling their inmates >>>>> out the door. One effect of this was to vastly increase the number of >>>>> mentally ill individuals living on the streets, or ending up in prison. >>>>> Another long-term effect of this left wing-driven movement against >>>>> institutionalization was to replace genuine care with medication. And >>>>> this >>>>> is another commonality between all of these mass shootings—each of the >>>>> shooters was a young male who was taking, or had taken, one or more >>>>> behavior-altering psychotropic drug. Instead of investigating and dealing >>>>> with those who begin to show genuine signs of mental illness, the easy >>>>> and >>>>> politically correct route is simply to “give ‘em meds.” These meds, in >>>>> turn, also carry with them side effects such as depression, anxiety, >>>>> paranoia, and others. Even otherwise healthy young men are given Ritalin, >>>>> Prozac, and other drugs in school under the guise of treating their >>>>> “ADHD” >>>>> (which most often is not) because the effeminized educational system >>>>> would >>>>> rather drug them than simply deal with active boys being active >>>>> boys—female >>>>> teachers in the publik skoolz often seem to want to turn these boys into >>>>> docile little lambs like the little girls are in their classrooms rather >>>>> than do the heavy lifting of shaping, molding, and directing these boys. >>>>> These drugs, however, will often warp the minds of these boys, creating >>>>> mental problems and making them more likely to display the personality >>>>> traits associated with mass shooters. >>>>> >>>>> Having discussed these other areas, let’s turn to the elephant in the >>>>> room that the Left desperately wants to avoid talking about. >>>>> Mass shooters that we have seen have been—(almost) without >>>>> exception—denizens of the Left. >>>>> >>>>> The mass shooters that we have seen have been—(almost) without >>>>> exception—denizens of the Left. Take this latest shooter, Chris >>>>> Harper-Mercer. Here you have a guy who had a well-known hatred of >>>>> “organized religion” and who specifically targeted Christians during his >>>>> rampage. His social media footprint indicates that he supported the Black >>>>> Lives Matter movement and expressed admiration >>>>> <http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/01/umpqua-gunman-id-d-as-chris-harper-mercer.html> >>>>> for >>>>> Vester Flanagan, the black supremacist who shot two white reporters dead >>>>> in >>>>> August. He was a supporter of the marxist IRA (Irish Republican Army), >>>>> and >>>>> stated on internet forums that he wanted to “strike back” at >>>>> “normals”—which is a sarcastic term sometimes used by socially >>>>> disaffected >>>>> people on the Left to describe all the people like you and me who don’t >>>>> support “social justice” and political correctness and all the rest. >>>>> >>>>> It’s interesting that the media and the Left seem to have an >>>>> understanding that this is the case, for they initially made some >>>>> underhanded efforts at casting Harper-Mercer as a “right winger”—and did >>>>> so >>>>> by attempting to hack, alter, and misreport information about him. For >>>>> instance, at one online dating website, Harper-Mercer’s political views >>>>> were listed as “republican, conservative”—yet it was noted that this was >>>>> changed (and indeed, the profile was altered five times) *after* the >>>>> shooter was already dead. Actually, Harper-Mercer was registered >>>>> <http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d79_1443808511> to Oregon’s >>>>> Independent Party, a left-leaning third party that has previously >>>>> cross-nominated liberal Oregon Democrats like Jeff Merkley and Ben >>>>> Westlund >>>>> in 2008 and John Kitzhaber in 2010. In a rather transparent attempt to >>>>> distance him from ties to Black Lives Matter, the media even altered the >>>>> image of Harper-Mercer (who is mixed race, with a white father and black >>>>> mother) to make him appear more white >>>>> <http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/02/the-curious-case-of-oregon-shooter-chris-harper-mercer-a-social-media-profile-shaped-modified-and-deleted/>. >>>>> >>>>> Hilariously, the *LA Times* has even attempted to cast >>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/10/03/shock-la-times-labels-black-oregon-shooter-as-white-supremacist/> >>>>> Harper-Mercer >>>>> as a “white supremacist,” despite his identification as mixed race, his >>>>> affinity for Vester Flanagan, and his murder of an exclusively white set >>>>> of >>>>> victims. >>>>> >>>>> The reason they do this is because the Left desperately needs a >>>>> “right-wing killer” to counterbalance all the left-wing crazies who have >>>>> perpetrated massing shootings in recent years. >>>>> >>>>> But there’s no getting around the data. >>>>> >>>>> Jared Laughner, who attempted to assassinate Rep. Gabby Giffords, >>>>> hated George Bush, hated religion, and went after Giffords because she >>>>> wasn’t liberal enough. Seung-hui Cho, the Virginia Tech shooter, hated >>>>> George Bush, hated Republicans, hated religion. James Holmes, the Aurora >>>>> theater shooter, was connected with the Occupy Wall Street movement, >>>>> hated >>>>> Christians, and eventually ended up converting to Islam in prison. Adam >>>>> Lanza, the Sandy Hook shooter, was reported to have a website dedicated >>>>> to >>>>> satan, and hated Christians. Even Craig Stephen Hicks, the atheist who >>>>> shot >>>>> three Muslims students in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, in February, hated >>>>> “religion” of all kinds and could just as easily have vented his >>>>> frustrations on Christian neighbors. It’s not just shooters, either - >>>>> Andrew Joseph Stack, the guy who flew his Piper Cub into the IRS building >>>>> in Austin, Texas, left behind a rambling screed praising Marxism. The >>>>> only >>>>> seeming exception to these in recent years would be Dylann Roof, the >>>>> little >>>>> sicko who shot up the church in Charleston, South Carolina, back in June, >>>>> killing nine black parishioners. But even then, we should note that he >>>>> *SHOT >>>>> UP A CHURCH* *AND KILLED NINE CHRISTIANS*—not exactly the actions of >>>>> the stereotypical “radical religious righter” boogeyman that the Left >>>>> always warns is hiding just over the horizon. >>>>> >>>>> It’s really starting to look as if the only way to keep Americans safe >>>>> is, instead of banning guns, to ban liberals who don’t like Christians. >>>>> >>>>> But we can’t do that, of course, because there’s some kind of >>>>> constitutional amendment against it. And we wouldn’t want to go >>>>> overturning >>>>> any constitutional amendments, after all. >>>>> >>>>> Oh wait >>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/03/obama-goes-beyond-mere-gun-control-hints-confiscation/> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> At this point, the only way the Left is going to be able to achieve >>>>> its dream of a gun-free America (except for police and the military and >>>>> other agents of government, of course) is to overturn the 2ndamendment. >>>>> They can try to do this legally by amending the Constitution, either with >>>>> an Article V convention or the more old-fashioned way that has been >>>>> employed 27 times now. But let’s be realistic—this simply will not >>>>> happen. >>>>> They could not get anywhere near the support they would need to even >>>>> begin >>>>> to hope to go this route. >>>>> >>>>> So the more likely route they will take will be to “repeal” the 2nd >>>>> amendment >>>>> illegally. This could be done by simply legislating a ban and subsequent >>>>> confiscation. It could be achieved via executive order. It could also be >>>>> realized by ginning up lawsuits that would allow them to steer cases >>>>> towards left-wing judges, who would then allow the federal courts to >>>>> “evolve” on this issue and start finding that gun bans and confiscation >>>>> are >>>>> “constitutional,” hoping that by the time the cases made their way to the >>>>> Supreme Court, at least one of the conservative Justices will have been >>>>> replaced by a liberal. >>>>> >>>>> Any of these methods would be completely unconstitutional and would >>>>> have no legitimacy at all. And should this route be employed, the states >>>>> and the people should be ready to resist such attempts. The states should >>>>> stand ready to nullify any such law or ruling, using their >>>>> constitutionally >>>>> provided right <http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/dunkin/150904> to >>>>> judge such legislation as unconstitutional, and hence null and void. At >>>>> the >>>>> same time, the body of the people should simply refuse to obey any order >>>>> to >>>>> turn in their firearms, as roughly 90% of AR-15 owners in Connecticut >>>>> reportedly did. Further, the body of the people—the militia who stand in >>>>> defense of the liberties of this nation—should also be ready to resist, >>>>> with whatever force is necessary, any violent attempt by our own >>>>> government >>>>> to confiscate our guns. When a government makes war on its own people in >>>>> such a fashion, it immediately loses any claim to obedience, legitimacy, >>>>> or >>>>> forbearance on the part of its people. >>>>> >>>>> The reason for this is simple. You think individual left-wing >>>>> fruitcakes on Ritalin are dangerous? Just wait until left-wing >>>>> *government *gets into power without a citizenry that is broadly and >>>>> heavily armed. You can ask any survivor of the Soviet, Nazi, Khmer Rouge, >>>>> Sandinista, or Maoist regimes what happens when the only people who have >>>>> guns are the agents of government. The abundant evidence from these >>>>> governments shows that the radical Left does not mind mass killings at >>>>> all—provided they’re the ones who get to do the killing. >>>>> >>>>> The lesson from the Umpqua college shooting is not that we need fewer >>>>> guns. Instead, it is that we need more of them in the right hands—the >>>>> hands >>>>> of law-abiding citizens ready and willing to take action to defend >>>>> themselves, those around them, and ultimately, the liberties of their >>>>> nation. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>> >>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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