Since the law of the land changed and she felt so strongly that she could
not uphold the law, she should have quit the job ... if I am unable to do
what my employer requires, my job is forfeit!!!

How is it "special" to want the same rights afforded others ... why should
a gay person have to jump through hoops and hire lawyers when a union
granted by the state will give them all the same rights?

The worst argument I heard against gay people getting married was by a
woman on a board who didn't want them to collect social security ... do gay
people NOT pay FICA????

On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>
wrote:

> No, what you are advocating is "Special Rights" for Gays.   Mark me in the
> "opposed" category.
>
> Ms. Davis by your own admission has persecuted no one.
>
> You should be ashamed at the hatred, smear and nasty rhetoric that you
> have slung against this Christian woman!  Shame on you!
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:59 PM, plainolamerican <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> How did Ms. Davis, (*e.g.*; "the *fat assed bigoted bitch*") persecute
>> Gays?
>> ---
>> she refused to issue them marriage licenses ... but you know that.
>>
>> What is your definition of "persecute"?
>> ---
>> denying someone equal rights.
>>
>> Get a grip Plain Ol' and stop it with the PC crap!  You never used to do
>> that!  What has changed you?
>> ---
>> seeing American rights being denied to people because of their sexuality.
>> That change took place about 10-15 years ago and you need to catch up.
>> Thank goodness you're not a civil rights attorney.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 2:43:50 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>
>>> How did Ms. Davis, (*e.g.*; "the *fat assed bigoted bitch*") persecute
>>> Gays?  What is your definition of "persecute"?
>>>
>>> Get a grip Plain Ol' and stop it with the PC crap!  You never used to do
>>> that!  What has changed you?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:28 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kim Davis has discriminated against no one.  Your typical hate filled
>>>> extremist (and clueless) post proves my point!  "Fat assed bigoted bitch"
>>>>  says it all Plain Ol'.   Continue on with your hate, vehemence, and lies.
>>>> ---
>>>> she persecuted gays and then disobeyed the courts .... so they sent her
>>>> fat bigoted ass to jail with a warning that if she refused to issue
>>>> marriage licenses she would be jailed again.
>>>>
>>>> it's you're klan that persecutes people because of your mythical
>>>> religious beliefs and your klan that will end up in court  and/or jail for
>>>> persecution and bigotry.
>>>> open your heart or open your wallet ... lawyer boy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 4:02:16 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL!  Kim Davis has discriminated against no one.  Your typical hate
>>>>> filled extremist (and clueless) post proves my point!  "Fat assed bigoted
>>>>> bitch"  says it all Plain Ol'.   Continue on with your hate, vehemence, 
>>>>> and
>>>>> lies.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 4:07 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> To date, you've yet to produce any Christian who has purportedly
>>>>>> discriminated against or in any way harmed Gays or Transgenders.
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> does the name kim davis ring a bell?
>>>>>> that fat ass bigoted bitch was sent to jail for persecuting lgbt's.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   You will have a hard time somehow protecting those wacked out
>>>>>> Atheists, Agnostics, and left of center elitists who hate Christians and 
>>>>>> go
>>>>>> on the attack against them!
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> defend yourself at all times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no excuse Plain Ol'; other than to point to the breakdown of
>>>>>> the family, moral decay and the lack of Christianity in these people's
>>>>>> lives that cause them to go on murderous assassinations and terroristic
>>>>>> rampages.
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> lack of xianity?
>>>>>> nobody kills more people than religious myth believing abrahamics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the good news!
>>>>>> world-wide, humans are becoming less religious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 1:57:46 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To date, you've yet to produce any Christian who has purportedly
>>>>>>> discriminated against or in any way harmed Gays or Transgenders.  You 
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> have a hard time somehow protecting those wacked out Atheists, 
>>>>>>> Agnostics,
>>>>>>> and left of center elitists who hate Christians and go on the attack
>>>>>>> against them!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is no excuse Plain Ol'; other than to point to the breakdown
>>>>>>> of the family, moral decay and the lack of Christianity in these 
>>>>>>> people's
>>>>>>> lives that cause them to go on murderous assassinations and terroristic
>>>>>>> rampages.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris Harper Mercer;
>>>>>>> Floyd Lee Corkins;
>>>>>>> Amy Bishop;
>>>>>>> Andrew J. Stack,
>>>>>>> James J. Lee;
>>>>>>> Craig Stephen Hicks;
>>>>>>> Adam Lanza,
>>>>>>> Jared Laughner,
>>>>>>> Seung-hui Cho,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just to name a few.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 1:39 PM, plainolamerican <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Many more U.S. Christians headed to jail in 2016?
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> we should jail as many as it takes to insure equal protection to
>>>>>>>> lgbt's and other minority groups from xian persecution.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 10:22:02 AM UTC-6, Travis wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Many more U.S. Christians headed to jail in 2016?*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Posted By *Greg Corombos* On 12/25/2015
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The year 2015 witnessed a Supreme Court decision ruling there was
>>>>>>>>> a constitutional right to same-sex marriage, a federal judge jailing a
>>>>>>>>> county clerk for refusing to issue licenses to gay couples and the 
>>>>>>>>> public
>>>>>>>>> explosion of the transgender movement, but one of the key figures in 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> culture wars says 2016 could well be a year of Americans pushing back
>>>>>>>>> against the liberal agenda.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In June, years worth of political and legal battles found their
>>>>>>>>> way to the Supreme Court. By a 5-4 decision authored by Justice 
>>>>>>>>> Anthony
>>>>>>>>> Kennedy, the court ruled that the equal protections offered in the
>>>>>>>>> Constitution ought to establish a right to same-sex marriage.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The decision was not surprising given previous rulings by the same
>>>>>>>>> justices, but Liberty Counsel Chairman Mathew Staver told WND and 
>>>>>>>>> Radio
>>>>>>>>> America it was disgraceful nonetheless.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> “Frankly, I don’t think it deserves any respect as the rule of
>>>>>>>>> law,” Staver said. “It’s just the opinion of five justices. However, 
>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> people are playing the games of masquerade and assuming this is what 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Constitution says. That will have a culture-changing impact at every 
>>>>>>>>> level.”
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Although he refuses to honor the court ruling, Staver knows it is
>>>>>>>>> a huge moment in the battle over American morality. He said the 
>>>>>>>>> nation has
>>>>>>>>> arrived at a major cultural crossroads.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> “This is a culture clash of unprecedented proportions that we’ve
>>>>>>>>> now entered into. This will continue as we move into the new year,” he
>>>>>>>>> said. “It’s going to come up in every conceivable context private 
>>>>>>>>> schools,
>>>>>>>>> churches, universities, colleges, you name it. Every institution, 
>>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>> person of faith will have to address this issue.”
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Staver would know. Weeks after the Supreme Court decision,
>>>>>>>>> he became counsel for Kim Davis, the clerk for Rowan County, Kentucky.
>>>>>>>>> Davis, a born-again Christian, refused to issue marriage licenses to
>>>>>>>>> homosexual couples, citing her freedom of conscience and free 
>>>>>>>>> religious
>>>>>>>>> expression. The federal courts disagreed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> “Two months after this 5-4 opinion, the first Christian went to
>>>>>>>>> jail for her sincerely held religious beliefs,” Staver said. 
>>>>>>>>> “Although she
>>>>>>>>> was the first, she certainly won’t be the last. It will not involve 
>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>> public employees or public elected officials but certainly the private
>>>>>>>>> sector as well.”
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Staver said the entire Davis saga could easily have been avoided,
>>>>>>>>> but the Democratic governor refused to take action to protect the 
>>>>>>>>> rights of
>>>>>>>>> conscience.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> “There was no accommodation that was given by the former governor,
>>>>>>>>> Steven Beshear, who is no longer in office. He refused to accommodate 
>>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>> so she made her own accommodation. When she returned to work, she 
>>>>>>>>> refused
>>>>>>>>> to violate her conscience, so she removed her name and title from the
>>>>>>>>> license,” Staver said.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Listen to the WND/Radio America interview with Mathew Staver:*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Beshear was replaced by tea-party Republican Matt Bevin, who
>>>>>>>>> scored a large upset victory over Democrat Jack Conway.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "He became elected, in large part, because of the marriage issue
>>>>>>>>> and Kim Davis," Staver said. "He took the side of natural marriage and
>>>>>>>>> supports Kim Davis. He's now been sworn into office, and he's already
>>>>>>>>> [issued] an executive order to protect the religious freedom of Kim 
>>>>>>>>> Davis
>>>>>>>>> and other clerks like her."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec. 23, Bevin ordered the removal of clerks' names from
>>>>>>>>> marriage licenses throughout the commonwealth, the very same decision 
>>>>>>>>> Davis
>>>>>>>>> made unilaterally earlier in the year.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Staver said the story of Gov. Bevin ought to be a lesson to
>>>>>>>>> national candidates as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "The candidates will have to address this issue. The voters will
>>>>>>>>> require that they address this issue," said Staver, who believes 
>>>>>>>>> pushing
>>>>>>>>> back is a winning issue for the GOP.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "The more and more the issue of same-sex marriage and the radical,
>>>>>>>>> so-called LGBT agenda moves forward, the more people will see how
>>>>>>>>> intolerant it is, how coercive it is," Staver said. "Kim Davis is just
>>>>>>>>> Exhibit A in that situation. I think most people will say, 'This is 
>>>>>>>>> not the
>>>>>>>>> kind of America we want to live in. This is not what we bargained 
>>>>>>>>> for,' and
>>>>>>>>> they're going to push back."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Staver also believes the reputation of the nation's courts is in
>>>>>>>>> peril. He said an upcoming ruling in high-profile abortion cases will 
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> critical to how Americans view the courts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "I think it's pushing itself into the realm of illegitimacy," he
>>>>>>>>> said. "I think the same-sex marriage case pushed it across the line. I
>>>>>>>>> think if it goes the wrong way on the abortion or the contraception 
>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>> abortion-inducing drug mandate, I think that will finish off this 
>>>>>>>>> court and
>>>>>>>>> people will just simply say, 'We're not going to obey people who just
>>>>>>>>> invent the law as they go.'"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As the gay marriage debate reached a critical moment at the
>>>>>>>>> Supreme Court, the transgender movement also emerged much more 
>>>>>>>>> publicly in
>>>>>>>>> 2015, led by Olympic decathlon champion Bruce Jenner announcing he
>>>>>>>>> identified as a woman named Caitlyn. Multiple television programs
>>>>>>>>> emerged <http://dateline.radioamerica.org/?p=15655> to highlight
>>>>>>>>> the stories of Jenner and others.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "It is part of their whole movement to bring out this bizarre 'I
>>>>>>>>> think, therefore I am' concept," Staver said. "We always saw that in
>>>>>>>>> philosophy, but now they're actually trying to make that a reality, 
>>>>>>>>> that if
>>>>>>>>> you think you're a woman then you ought to be legally recognized and
>>>>>>>>> treated as a woman? It's absolutely absurd."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Staver said it doesn't take a deep faith to understand the deep
>>>>>>>>> flaws in embracing the movement.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "You cannot get used to something that pushes in your face and is
>>>>>>>>> a direct collision with your sincerely held religious beliefs and, 
>>>>>>>>> frankly,
>>>>>>>>> objective, observable reality," he said.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Staver admits 2015 was a difficult year for cultural
>>>>>>>>> conservatives, but he said there is much more reason for hope than 
>>>>>>>>> despair.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "We haven't even begun to see this battle," Staver said. "This
>>>>>>>>> battle is far from over, and, for me, I ultimately believe we will 
>>>>>>>>> win this
>>>>>>>>> battle going forward."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> URL to article: 
>>>>>>>>> *http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/many-more-u-s-christians-headed-to-jail-in-2016/
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/many-more-u-s-christians-headed-to-jail-in-2016/>*
>>>>>>>>>
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