It's sad to watch Secular Progressives attempt to delve into subject matter that they have no clue or inkling about.....Pitiful.....
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 4:17 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > it's fun to watch warmongering neocons, zionists and republicans shake and > tremble in fear and scream for more war. > > > > On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 2:22:59 PM UTC-5, Travis wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Daniel Greenfield's article: Obama's Ho Chi Minh Trail >> <http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/> >> >> [image: Link to Sultan Knish] <http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Posted: 30 May 2016 07:17 AM PDT >> >> On his visit to meet with Communist leaders in Vietnam, Obama criticized >> the United States for having, “too much money in our politics, and rising >> economic inequality, racial bias in our criminal justice system.” He >> praised Ho Chi Minh’s evocation of the “American Declaration of >> Independence” and claimed that we had “shared ideals” with the murderous >> Communist dictator. >> >> <https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IeRfXyjtn0Q/V0xK2_QkXMI/AAAAAAAAPzU/C7U9taNV4cE2-BJW75uLHNpRiFJljdaTgCLcB/s1600/22-stockdale-homecoming-sd.jpg> >> Shortly after the “evocation” that Obama praised, his beloved Ho was hard >> at work purging the opposition, political and religious. When Obama >> references these “shared ideals”, does he perhaps mean Ho’s declaration, >> “All who do not follow the line laid down by me will be broken.” >> >> Perhaps he means the euphemistically named “land reform” which may have >> killed up to a million people. Like Stalin and Mao, Ho Chi Minh seized land >> and executed property owners as “enemies of the state”. The original plan >> had been to murder one in a thousand. But the relatively modest plan for >> mass murder was swiftly exceeded by the enthusiastic Communist death >> squads. >> >> Obama has consistently called for wealth redistribution. This is what it >> really looks like. It’s men being hung from trees or lying in dirt dying of >> malaria. It’s death squads coming in the night. It’s a declaration that you >> are to be executed because you are the wrong class in a class war. It’s a >> man condemned to hard labor in a New Economic Zone and a family starving to >> death because the regime has commanded that they must be made an example of >> to other peasants. >> >> What’s wrong with a little wealth redistribution anyway? >> >> As Obama said, on his visit to the brutal Communist dictatorship in Cuba, >> “So often in the past there’s been a sharp division between left and right, >> between capitalist and communist or socialist... And especially in the >> Americas, that’s been a big debate, right? Oh, you know, you’re a >> capitalist Yankee dog, and oh, you know, you’re some crazy communist that’s >> going to take away everybody’s property... you should be practical and just >> choose from what works. You don’t have to worry about whether it neatly >> fits into socialist theory or capitalist theory — you should just decide >> what works.” >> >> Does Vietnam’s Communist dictatorship work? Obama seems to think that it >> does, talking up the, “skyscrapers and high-rises of Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh >> City, and new shopping malls and urban centers. We see it in the satellites >> Vietnam puts into space”. What’s a million dead when you’ve got satellites >> in space? What does it matter if you don’t have freedom of speech when >> there are skyscrapers in Ho Chi Minh City? >> >> Unlike Pol Pot, whose genocidal crimes leftist activists like Noam >> Chomsky tried and failed to cover up, the Communist butchery in Vietnam >> that took place even long before the Vietnam War has largely been erased >> from common history. The victims of Ho Chi Minh and his successors have >> become non-persons not just in Vietnam, but in Washington D.C. Instead >> Obama associates one of history’s bloodiest Communist butchers with Thomas >> Jefferson. >> >> What of the Declaration of Independence was there in Ho’s concentration >> camps? The brutal Communist regime whose ideals Obama praises, sent >> political dissidents to camps. Are those the ideals he shares with Uncle Ho? >> >> Obama praises the “Vietnamese constitution, which states that ‘citizens >> have the right to freedom of speech and freedom of the press, and have the >> right of access to information, the right to assembly, the right to >> association, and the right to demonstrate.’ That’s in the Vietnamese >> constitution.” >> >> The Soviet constitution had the same empty guarantees. The Nhan Van-Giai >> Pham intellectuals who were purged can testify that these words were as >> meaningless as those of the Vietnamese Declaration of Independence which >> Obama had quoted earlier. More relevantly the fourth article of the >> Vietnamese Constitution states that the “The Communist Party of Vietnam... >> the faithful representative of the interests of the working class, laborers >> and the whole nation, acting upon the Marxist-Leninist doctrine and Ho Chi >> Minh's thought, is the leading force of the State and society.” That means >> there’s no freedom of speech, press, assembly or anything else except >> within the confines of Marxist-Leninist doctrine and Uncle Ho’s cunning >> distortions that fooled almost as many American leftists as Uncle Joe’s >> plans for Eastern Europe fooled Western European leftists. >> >> Obama equates a Communist dictatorship to America in an ugly display of >> moral equivalence. “This is an issue about all of us, each country, trying >> to consistently apply these principles.” Vietnam locked up political >> bloggers for “abusing their freedom” just this March. According to Obama, >> America has “too much money in politics”. Vietnam doesn’t have that >> problem. It only has one party. The Communist Party. >> >> Vietnam only has one party because its Communist leaders banned, purged >> and criminalized the opposition. But Obama doesn’t think that Communism is >> a particularly bad thing. >> >> In his speech, he dismissed the Vietnam War as being caused by “fears of >> Communism” that overcame our “shared ideals”. Why were we afraid of >> Communism? It might have had to do something with the mass murder of 94 >> million people by Communist regimes. It might have a few things to do with >> concentration camps, bans of political parties and the imprisonment and >> execution of those practicing freedom of speech, assembly and the press. >> >> Our “fears of Communism” were as real and valid as our “fears of Nazism”. >> It is only the fellow travelers of the left who deny this undeniable fact. >> >> After one bout of mass murder, Ho Chi Minh dismissed his crimes with the >> words, “One cannot waken the dead.” Obama clearly agrees. The dead, >> American and Vietnamese, must be written off as part of an unfortunate >> conflict. We must forget why they died and embrace their killers. >> >> Obama marked the lives lost on “both sides” as if the Communist terror >> squads butchering Vietnamese farmers or massacring Catholics were somehow >> morally the equal of American soldiers dying to stop them. Lives were also >> lost on both sides when America fought the Nazis. Reagan was rightly >> criticized for that sort of moral equivalence when he equated Nazi soldiers >> at Bitburg and concentration camp victims. And yet the liberals who >> protested that equivalence have nothing but applause when Obama equates >> murdered American soldiers and butchered Vietnamese families with their >> Communist killers. >> >> When Viet Cong terrorists threw grenades into markets, are we supposed to >> mourn the children who were torn apart by shrapnel and the grenade throwers >> as morally equivalent? If we equate “the names of 58,315 Americans who gave >> their lives in the conflict” with the evil they were fighting, then we >> render their sacrifice worthless. >> >> Their deaths become a meaningless mistake in an unnecessary war caused by >> our failure to understand our “shared ideals” with Ho Chi Minh and our >> irrational fear of Communist concentration camps. >> >> That is Obama’s real message. We should have adapted some aspects of >> Communism and learned from our shared values. We should have closed our >> eyes to Ho Chi Minh’s atrocities as a matter of having to break human eggs >> to make Socialist omelets while celebrating him as another Thomas Jefferson. >> >> That is the way the left saw it. That is still the way it sees it. >> >> Obama’s trip to Vietnam is not a mere strategic journey, but yet another >> opportunity for him to remind us that the left has not repented or recanted >> of its solidarity and support for Communist terror whether in Cuba, in >> Vietnam or anywhere else. 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