I hope everyone in the Group will look at Plain Ol's last post in this thread. --- looking for support, old warmongering zionist puke?
Thank God --- gods are created in the imagination of man. that Plain Ol' has the Constitutional protections that he hates, --- our Constitution guarantees a secular American government ... void of religious pukes like you. despises and fights against on a daily basis, and that his sissy punk ass is well protected by getting into a Group where he can make such offensive hate filled tripe from the safety of his own home. Otherwise, folks like me would mop the floor with his despicable ass. --- bring your favorite weapons, your will, body bag and a host of zionist pussies with you, asshole. I'll leave the lights on for you. On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 10:39:13 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > > I hope everyone in the Group will look at Plain Ol's last post in this > thread. > > Thank God that Plain Ol' has the Constitutional protections that he hates, > despises and fights against on a daily basis, and that his sissy punk ass > is well protected by getting into a Group where he can make such offensive > hate filled tripe from the safety of his own home. Otherwise, folks like > me would mop the floor with his despicable ass. > > > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:26 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Again, you haven't a clue about what you're talking about. (Which is >> typical!) >> --- >> 'you haven't a clue' is a lame attempt to discredit an opponent ... even >> from a scumbag lawyer like you. >> >> You overlook (out of ignorance and purpose) the Truman Doctrine, the >> Cold War and the whole purpose of how and why we got involved in the >> conflict. >> --- >> fighting communism was a display of ignorance and stupidity by >> warmongering Americans. >> the sad part is that there are still ignorant and stupid Americans >> fighting that war. >> >> Again, typical. You, Jane Fonda, Whoopi Goldberg, Babs >> Streisand......As a matter of fact, you remind me more and more of a >> dingbat Secular Progressive ignorant woman who hasn't a friggin' clue. >> --- >> says a fucking zionist warmonger who promotes fearmongering, war, >> homophobia, islamophobia and corrupt republicans. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 10:12:40 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>> >>> Again, you haven't a clue about what you're talking about. (Which is >>> typical!) You overlook (out of ignorance and purpose) the Truman Doctrine, >>> the Cold War and the whole purpose of how and why we got involved in the >>> conflict. >>> >>> Again, typical. You, Jane Fonda, Whoopi Goldberg, Babs >>> Streisand......As a matter of fact, you remind me more and more of a >>> dingbat Secular Progressive ignorant woman who hasn't a friggin' clue. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:10 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I have read that Ho Chi Minh proposed to the American government to >>>> adopt a constitution for Vietnam based on the US constitution and asked >>>> for >>>> assistance getting rid of the French colonialist of course we sent him >>>> packing right into the arms of Mao Tse Tung and helped our always reliable >>>> french allies instead. well once again we were left left with our thumb up >>>> our collective ass..... >>>> --- >>>> and ignorant fucking republicans and democrats continued to waste US >>>> soldier lives for non-US interests. >>>> and they continue doing to this very day. >>>> it's time to remove them from our government asap by any means >>>> necessary. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 7:45:23 PM UTC-5, gtheist957 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> In all fairness I have read that Ho Chi Minh proposed to the American >>>>> government to adopt a constitution for Vietnam based on the US >>>>> constitution >>>>> and asked for assistance getting rid of the French colonialist of course >>>>> we >>>>> sent him packing right into the arms of Mao Tse Tung and helped our >>>>> always >>>>> reliable french allies instead. well once again we were left left with >>>>> our >>>>> thumb up our collective ass..... >>>>> On May 31, 2016 7:29 PM, "Keith In Tampa" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It's sad to watch Secular Progressives attempt to delve into subject >>>>>> matter that they have no clue or inkling about.....Pitiful..... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 4:17 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> it's fun to watch warmongering neocons, zionists and republicans >>>>>>> shake and tremble in fear and scream for more war. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 2:22:59 PM UTC-5, Travis wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Daniel Greenfield's article: Obama's Ho Chi Minh Trail >>>>>>>> <http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: Link to Sultan Knish] <http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Posted: 30 May 2016 07:17 AM PDT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On his visit to meet with Communist leaders in Vietnam, Obama >>>>>>>> criticized the United States for having, “too much money in our >>>>>>>> politics, >>>>>>>> and rising economic inequality, racial bias in our criminal justice >>>>>>>> system.” He praised Ho Chi Minh’s evocation of the “American >>>>>>>> Declaration of >>>>>>>> Independence” and claimed that we had “shared ideals” with the >>>>>>>> murderous >>>>>>>> Communist dictator. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IeRfXyjtn0Q/V0xK2_QkXMI/AAAAAAAAPzU/C7U9taNV4cE2-BJW75uLHNpRiFJljdaTgCLcB/s1600/22-stockdale-homecoming-sd.jpg> >>>>>>>> Shortly after the “evocation” that Obama praised, his beloved Ho >>>>>>>> was hard at work purging the opposition, political and religious. When >>>>>>>> Obama references these “shared ideals”, does he perhaps mean Ho’s >>>>>>>> declaration, “All who do not follow the line laid down by me will be >>>>>>>> broken.” >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Perhaps he means the euphemistically named “land reform” which may >>>>>>>> have killed up to a million people. Like Stalin and Mao, Ho Chi Minh >>>>>>>> seized >>>>>>>> land and executed property owners as “enemies of the state”. The >>>>>>>> original >>>>>>>> plan had been to murder one in a thousand. But the relatively modest >>>>>>>> plan >>>>>>>> for mass murder was swiftly exceeded by the enthusiastic Communist >>>>>>>> death >>>>>>>> squads. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Obama has consistently called for wealth redistribution. This is >>>>>>>> what it really looks like. It’s men being hung from trees or lying in >>>>>>>> dirt >>>>>>>> dying of malaria. It’s death squads coming in the night. It’s a >>>>>>>> declaration >>>>>>>> that you are to be executed because you are the wrong class in a class >>>>>>>> war. >>>>>>>> It’s a man condemned to hard labor in a New Economic Zone and a family >>>>>>>> starving to death because the regime has commanded that they must be >>>>>>>> made >>>>>>>> an example of to other peasants. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What’s wrong with a little wealth redistribution anyway? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As Obama said, on his visit to the brutal Communist dictatorship in >>>>>>>> Cuba, “So often in the past there’s been a sharp division between left >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> right, between capitalist and communist or socialist... And especially >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> the Americas, that’s been a big debate, right? Oh, you know, you’re a >>>>>>>> capitalist Yankee dog, and oh, you know, you’re some crazy communist >>>>>>>> that’s >>>>>>>> going to take away everybody’s property... you should be practical and >>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>> choose from what works. You don’t have to worry about whether it >>>>>>>> neatly >>>>>>>> fits into socialist theory or capitalist theory — you should just >>>>>>>> decide >>>>>>>> what works.” >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does Vietnam’s Communist dictatorship work? Obama seems to think >>>>>>>> that it does, talking up the, “skyscrapers and high-rises of Hanoi and >>>>>>>> Ho >>>>>>>> Chi Minh City, and new shopping malls and urban centers. We see it in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> satellites Vietnam puts into space”. What’s a million dead when you’ve >>>>>>>> got >>>>>>>> satellites in space? What does it matter if you don’t have freedom of >>>>>>>> speech when there are skyscrapers in Ho Chi Minh City? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Unlike Pol Pot, whose genocidal crimes leftist activists like Noam >>>>>>>> Chomsky tried and failed to cover up, the Communist butchery in >>>>>>>> Vietnam >>>>>>>> that took place even long before the Vietnam War has largely been >>>>>>>> erased >>>>>>>> from common history. The victims of Ho Chi Minh and his successors >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> become non-persons not just in Vietnam, but in Washington D.C. Instead >>>>>>>> Obama associates one of history’s bloodiest Communist butchers with >>>>>>>> Thomas >>>>>>>> Jefferson. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What of the Declaration of Independence was there in Ho’s >>>>>>>> concentration camps? The brutal Communist regime whose ideals Obama >>>>>>>> praises, sent political dissidents to camps. Are those the ideals he >>>>>>>> shares >>>>>>>> with Uncle Ho? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Obama praises the “Vietnamese constitution, which states that >>>>>>>> ‘citizens have the right to freedom of speech and freedom of the >>>>>>>> press, and >>>>>>>> have the right of access to information, the right to assembly, the >>>>>>>> right >>>>>>>> to association, and the right to demonstrate.’ That’s in the >>>>>>>> Vietnamese >>>>>>>> constitution.” >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Soviet constitution had the same empty guarantees. The Nhan >>>>>>>> Van-Giai Pham intellectuals who were purged can testify that these >>>>>>>> words >>>>>>>> were as meaningless as those of the Vietnamese Declaration of >>>>>>>> Independence >>>>>>>> which Obama had quoted earlier. More relevantly the fourth article of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> Vietnamese Constitution states that the “The Communist Party of >>>>>>>> Vietnam... >>>>>>>> the faithful representative of the interests of the working class, >>>>>>>> laborers >>>>>>>> and the whole nation, acting upon the Marxist-Leninist doctrine and Ho >>>>>>>> Chi >>>>>>>> Minh's thought, is the leading force of the State and society.” That >>>>>>>> means >>>>>>>> there’s no freedom of speech, press, assembly or anything else except >>>>>>>> within the confines of Marxist-Leninist doctrine and Uncle Ho’s >>>>>>>> cunning >>>>>>>> distortions that fooled almost as many American leftists as Uncle >>>>>>>> Joe’s >>>>>>>> plans for Eastern Europe fooled Western European leftists. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Obama equates a Communist dictatorship to America in an ugly >>>>>>>> display of moral equivalence. “This is an issue about all of us, each >>>>>>>> country, trying to consistently apply these principles.” Vietnam >>>>>>>> locked up >>>>>>>> political bloggers for “abusing their freedom” just this March. >>>>>>>> According >>>>>>>> to Obama, America has “too much money in politics”. Vietnam doesn’t >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> that problem. It only has one party. The Communist Party. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Vietnam only has one party because its Communist leaders banned, >>>>>>>> purged and criminalized the opposition. But Obama doesn’t think that >>>>>>>> Communism is a particularly bad thing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In his speech, he dismissed the Vietnam War as being caused by >>>>>>>> “fears of Communism” that overcame our “shared ideals”. Why were we >>>>>>>> afraid >>>>>>>> of Communism? It might have had to do something with the mass murder >>>>>>>> of 94 >>>>>>>> million people by Communist regimes. It might have a few things to do >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> concentration camps, bans of political parties and the imprisonment >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> execution of those practicing freedom of speech, assembly and the >>>>>>>> press. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Our “fears of Communism” were as real and valid as our “fears of >>>>>>>> Nazism”. It is only the fellow travelers of the left who deny this >>>>>>>> undeniable fact. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> After one bout of mass murder, Ho Chi Minh dismissed his crimes >>>>>>>> with the words, “One cannot waken the dead.” Obama clearly agrees. The >>>>>>>> dead, American and Vietnamese, must be written off as part of an >>>>>>>> unfortunate conflict. We must forget why they died and embrace their >>>>>>>> killers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Obama marked the lives lost on “both sides” as if the Communist >>>>>>>> terror squads butchering Vietnamese farmers or massacring Catholics >>>>>>>> were >>>>>>>> somehow morally the equal of American soldiers dying to stop them. >>>>>>>> Lives >>>>>>>> were also lost on both sides when America fought the Nazis. Reagan was >>>>>>>> rightly criticized for that sort of moral equivalence when he equated >>>>>>>> Nazi >>>>>>>> soldiers at Bitburg and concentration camp victims. And yet the >>>>>>>> liberals >>>>>>>> who protested that equivalence have nothing but applause when Obama >>>>>>>> equates >>>>>>>> murdered American soldiers and butchered Vietnamese families with >>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>> Communist killers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When Viet Cong terrorists threw grenades into markets, are we >>>>>>>> supposed to mourn the children who were torn apart by shrapnel and the >>>>>>>> grenade throwers as morally equivalent? If we equate “the names of >>>>>>>> 58,315 >>>>>>>> Americans who gave their lives in the conflict” with the evil they >>>>>>>> were >>>>>>>> fighting, then we render their sacrifice worthless. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Their deaths become a meaningless mistake in an unnecessary war >>>>>>>> caused by our failure to understand our “shared ideals” with Ho Chi >>>>>>>> Minh >>>>>>>> and our irrational fear of Communist concentration camps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That is Obama’s real message. We should have adapted some aspects >>>>>>>> of Communism and learned from our shared values. We should have closed >>>>>>>> our >>>>>>>> eyes to Ho Chi Minh’s atrocities as a matter of having to break human >>>>>>>> eggs >>>>>>>> to make Socialist omelets while celebrating him as another Thomas >>>>>>>> Jefferson. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That is the way the left saw it. That is still the way it sees it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Obama’s trip to Vietnam is not a mere strategic journey, but yet >>>>>>>> another opportunity for him to remind us that the left has not >>>>>>>> repented or >>>>>>>> recanted of its solidarity and support for Communist terror whether in >>>>>>>> Cuba, in Vietnam or anywhere else. 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