Both sides have committed atrocities upon each other my entire life. As I said, my views of the Palestinian/Israeli conflict are just based on what little I know and see and also on geography. I see them as the one place Jews might be able to live in peace while practicing their faith without being slaughtered or rendered extinct by most of the radical Islamic countries throughout the Middle East that want them wiped off the face of the Earth.
One thing I have always wondered about was the way the land was divided between Palestine and Israel. I mean, WTH did they expect when they separated the Palestinian territories instead of dividing the land mass in half and giving half to Israel and half to Palestine. I suppose my views are also shaped by recalling so many Palestinians dancing in the streets on 9/11: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/ap-called-out-for-hiding-video-of-thousands-of-palestinians-celebrating-911-attacks/ On Sunday, July 10, 2016 at 1:22:24 PM UTC-4, KeithInTampa wrote: > > Everybody get comfortable, and brace yourselves......I actually agree with > Plain Ol' "to a small degree" here with regard to Israel's domestic > policies. "IF" we were to swap the term, "Christian" with the term, > "Palestinian"; all Americans would be up in arms over the actions of > Israel and the IDF.....The truth is, that a number of Palestinians are in > fact Christian! > > The UN mandated (in Resolution 242 and numerous other Resolutions) that > there was to be two separate States; an Israel and a Palestine; yet > Israel refuses to honor this agreement, and is on a constant land grab; > taking lands that not only have nothing to do with its national security; > but clearly are even in violation of treaty's that Israel has entered > into. The Oslo accords are the best example, where Israel promised NEVER > to develop or violate East Jerusalem, yet have done so. > > The UN also mandates that the City of Jerusalem is to be an "International > City"; yet Israel seems predisposed to make Jerusalem it's capital, all > the while stealing Islamic and Christian lands in and around the City. > > Palestinians are even denied the usage of the roads and highways, sewers > and infrastructures within Israel, unless they become citizens and swear > allegiance to Israel....Meanwhile Jews in America can claim dual > citizenship. > > There's a number of other "Issues" I have with Israel; and although I > strongly support Israel's right to exist and most importantly to defend > itself; one has to wonder about our moral authority and logic in allowing > Israel to literally practise an apartheid against all that are not Jewish. > > Having said all of the above, it was merely a month ago that I posed a > question to the Group: "Can you imagine the region today, and what the > conditions of Jerusalem would be like, had their not been the UN Created > "Israel"?" I don't believe that there would be an open, International > City, nor do I believe that many of the ancient wonders and historical > sites would still be standing if they represent Jewish or Christian > heritage. > > Most Americans confuse "Biblical Israel" with "UN Created Israel"; and > there is a major, distinct difference! > > Finally, what I have just said also shows the distinction between my > beliefs and Plain Ol's.....Plain Ol' can now take the politically correct > stance and claim that he's "Anti-Zionist" versus being "Anti-Jew"; but > this isn't really truthful or accurate. Plain Ol' has written many posts > complaining about the Jewish people; the Jewish faith; the creation of > Israel; as well as Zionism....Plain Ol' is anti-Semitic. > > On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 12:28 PM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum < > [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > >> >> Yeah? Who is running as an independent this year? Who is running for the >> House or Senate in your district as one? >> >> The vast majority of the time, the choice comes down to a republican or a >> democrat. And your almost singular issue of hatred of Israel puts you >> squarely with the democrats. Your defense of Muslims and your tendency to >> paint them as some sort of victims does as well. >> >> >> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 3:09:03 PM UTC-4, plainolamerican wrote: >>> >>> Plainol has always hated Jews and blamed virtually every ill on them. >>> --- >>> wrong ... all jews shouldn't be blamed for the crimes of their zionist >>> brethren ... just as not all xians should be blamed for the bigotry of >>> their homophobic brethren. >>> >>> Here's some irony though. The "PROGRESSIVE" left sends more than 11% >>> Jews to Washington, while the republicans generally send less than 1% >>> Jewish. >>> --- >>> yeah ... it stands to reason that jews vote for democrats. >>> >>> And now Plainol votes with/for the "progressives". LOL. >>> --- >>> wrong again ... I vote independent and always have. It's the only party >>> that's not dominated by religious myth believers and zionists. >>> >>> >>> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 1:54:39 PM UTC-5, Perplexed wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Plainol has always hated Jews and blamed virtually every ill on them. >>>> >>>> Here's some irony though. The "PROGRESSIVE" left sends more than 11% >>>> Jews to Washington, while the republicans generally send less than 1% >>>> Jewish. >>>> >>>> And now Plainol votes with/for the "progressives". LOL. >>>> >>>> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 12:26:25 PM UTC-4, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>> >>>>> But your rhetoric, dogma, and most everything that you've written, >>>>> posted, stood for, align with, sound off about for the last year or so, >>>>> are >>>>> the talking points right out of the "Secular Progressive/New World >>>>> Order/Marxist-Utopian/Democratic Party" playbook Plain Ol'! >>>>> >>>>> The only distinction is your Anti-Semitism; you obviously hate Jews, >>>>> (more than you do Traditionalists, Conservatives, Republicans, >>>>> Christians, >>>>> or any other group that you seem to fear); and as Perp and Ms. Navy >>>>> will >>>>> see, (and as Bruce Majors, MJ, the Annointed One; and other long term >>>>> members can attest) You're mindset and positions have radically changed >>>>> in >>>>> the last twelve to eighteen months. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >> -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >> * It's active and moderated. 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