The man claims to be a Christian and I believe him ... he had exposure to Muslim culture and Islam, so he understands it ... I will say that my childhood growing up with an Iranian Uncle who is a Sufi Mystic helped me more tolerant and realize that there is only one God and as long as you honor him, it doesn't matter what religion you are!!!
Plain Ol, I know you are anti Religion and I understand that, but I do have my concept of faith that works for me, don't want to push it on others and hope others could find a way to feel happy and spiritual on some level!!! On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 3:15 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > Summary > > A widely viewed video seems to show President Obama stating that he is a > Muslim. It is false, and the product of dishonest editing. > > Although it is titled "Obama Admits He Is A Muslim," the president in fact > has admitted no such thing. The video edits and twists his actual words, > sometimes turning what were denials into false confessions. For example, it > edits out the words "I’m a Christian" from one quote and "my Christian > faith" from another. It shows him quoting from the Quran, but snips out his > quotes from the Bible and the Talmud. > > Although the video gives no citations and no dates, we have tracked down > the full quotes from the various appearances. In the Analysis section that > follows, we take the video section by section, comparing the edited quotes > and graphics with the full reality of what Obama actually said. > > We doubt many will take this nasty bit of misrepresentation seriously. > Nevertheless, it provides an interesting case study of malicious editing. > Analysis > > We’ve received many queries about this video > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY>, which has amassed more than > 1 million views since it was posted Aug. 7. It is titled "Obama Admits He > Is A Muslim" and is just over nine-and-a-half minutes long. It blends > edited snippets of Obama’s own words from various appearances as a > candidate and as president, with on-screen graphics giving the editorial > opinions of the video’s creator. > > "Obama’s Muslim Roots" > > The first section opens with a portion of the address > <http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-By-President-Obama-To-The-Turkish-Parliament/> > the > president gave April 6, 2009, to the Turkish Parliament in Ankara. > > Edited quote: Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have > lived in a Muslim-majority country — I know, because I am one of them. > > Full quote: The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many > other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a > Muslim-majority country — I know, because I am one of them. > > When Obama says "I am one of them," he was speaking not of Muslims but of > "other" Americans. He was making a distinction between Muslim Americans and > *non-*Muslims who either have Muslim relatives or have lived in a country > (such as Turkey) where the population is predominately Muslim. > > The video next shows a snippet of a speech > <http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-at-Cairo-University-6-04-09> > Obama > gave June 4 at Cairo University in Egypt. > > Edited quote: My father came from a Kenyan family that includes > generations of Muslims. As a boy, I spent several years in Indonesia and > heard the call of the azaan [call to prayer] at the break of dawn and at > the fall of dusk. > > Full quote: I’m a Christian, but my father came from a Kenyan family that > includes generations of Muslims. As a boy, I spent several years in > Indonesia and heard the call of the azaan at the break of dawn and at the > fall of dusk. > > Far from admitting he’s a Muslim, Obama says "I’m a Christian." But the > video’s creator leaves that on the cutting room floor. > > The video continues with a later selection from the Cairo speech: > > Edited quote: So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to > the region where it was first revealed. That experience guides my conviction > > Full quote: So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to > the region where it was first revealed. That experience guides my > conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what > Islam is, not what it isn’t. > > The edited version invites the viewer to think that Obama was saying that > his own *religious*"conviction" is based on personal experiences in > Islamic countries. But the full quote shows Obama was talking about a > different sort of conviction: his belief that Americans shouldn’t be guided > by false notions about the Muslim faith. > > The video then gives a truncated version of an exchange between Obama and > ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos from Sept. 7, 2008: > > Edited Quote — Obama: You’re absolutely right that John McCain has not > talked about my Muslim faith > > Full Quote — Obama: You’re absolutely right that John McCain has not > talked about my Muslim faith and you’re absolutely right that that has not … > Stephanopoulos (interrupting): Your Christian faith. > Obama: My Christian faith. Well, what I’m saying … > Stephanopoulos (interrupting): Connections, right. > Obama (continuing) is that he hasn’t suggested that I’m a Muslim, and I > think that his campaign upper echelons have not either. What I think is > fair to say is that coming out of the Republican camp, there have been > efforts to suggest that perhaps I’m not what who I say I am when it comes > to my faith, something which I find deeply offensive, and that has been > going on for a pretty long time. > > The reference to "my Muslim faith" was widely described at the time as a > gaffe. *The Washington Times* reported > <http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/07/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/> > it > as a "slip of the tongue." By leaving out the words "my Christian faith," > the video dishonestly attempts to reverse the meaning of what Obama was > saying. > > This section of the video closes with an on-screen graphic that slightly > mangles a *New York Times* article > <http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/opinion/06kristof.html?_r=3> from > March 6, 2007, by columnist Nicholas Kristof. > > Video: In a 2007 interview with the New York Times, Obama recited the > Muslim call to prayer in a perfect Arabic accent, and then went on to say > that the Muslim call to prayer was "the prettiest sound on earth." > > Actual NYT passage: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic > call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that > seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), > Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on > Earth at sunset." > > The video exaggerates. Kristof actually described Obama’s accent as "first > rate" but not "perfect." And Obama said the call to prayer is "one of" the > prettiest sounds, not the prettiest of all. These distortions are minor, > but still part of a systematic misrepresentation of the record. > > "Obama Quotes from the Koran" > > The second section, called "Obama quotes from the Koran," shows Obama > quoting from Islam’s holy book during his Cairo speech. What is not > apparent from the edited version is that the president was telling his > mostly Muslim audience that terrorists violate moral principles taught by > the Quran. The video also edits out Obama’s references to the Bible and the > Talmud as it strains to make the case that he’s a Muslim. > > Edited quote: As the holy Quran tells us … The holy Quran teaches that … > the holy Quran tells us … and the holy Quran also says . . > > Actual Passages: > > Obama: As the holy Quran tells us, "Be conscious of God and speak always > the truth." That is what I will try to do today — to speak the truth as > best I can, humbled by the task before us, and firm in my belief that the > interests we share as human beings are far more powerful than the forces > that drive us apart. > > Obama: Indeed, none of us should tolerate these extremists. They have > killed in many countries. They have killed people of different faiths — but > more than any other, they have killed Muslims. Their actions are > irreconcilable with the rights of human beings, the progress of nations, > and with Islam. The Holy Koran teaches that whoever kills an innocent is as > — it is as if he has killed all mankind. And the Holy Koran also says > whoever saves a person, it is as if he has saved all mankind. > > Obama: We have the power to make the world we seek, but only if we have > the courage to make a new beginning, keeping in mind what has been written. > > The holy Quran tells us, "O mankind! We have created you male and a > female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know > one another." > > The Talmud tells us: "The whole of the Torah is for the purpose of > promoting peace." > > The holy Bible tells us, "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be > called sons of God." > > "Obama Praises and Glorifies Islam" > > This section begins with a passage that is accurate enough, but does not > make clear that Obama was addressing leaders of a predominately Muslim > ally, Turkey. It is from his April 6 address to the Turkish Parliament. > > Obama: We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which > has done so much over the centuries to shape the world. > > That is followed by excerpts from a March 19 video address > <http://www.whitehouse.gov/nowruz/> the White House released on the > Internet, in which Obama praised the "culture" of Iran and called it a > "great civilization." What’s edited out is that Obama was speaking on > Nowruz, the traditional first day of the year on the Persian calendar. > Nowruz originated <http://www.zoroastrian.org/articles/nowruz.htm> in the > Zoroastrian religion and had beencelebrated > <http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Celebrations/norooz.htm> for more than a > century before Islam arrived in what is now Iran. Although Obama referred > to the "Islamic Republic of Iran" — the present-day official name of the > country — he was offering no praise or glorification of the Islamic > religion, but rather praising the more ancient Persian culture of Iran. > > Edited quote: I would like to speak directly to the people and leaders of > the Islamic Republic of Iran … your great and celebrated culture. Over many > centuries your art, your music, literature and innovation have made the > world a better and more beautiful place. … We know that you are a great > civilization, and your accomplishments have earned the respect of the > United States and the world. > > Full quote: Today I want to extend my very best wishes to all who are > celebrating Nowruz around the world. This holiday is both an ancient ritual > and a moment of renewal, and I hope that you enjoy this special time of > year with friends and family. > > In particular, I would like to speak directly to the people and leaders of > the Islamic Republic of Iran. Nowruz is just one part of your great and > celebrated culture. Over many centuries your art, your music, literature > and innovation have made the world a better and more beautiful place. Here > in the United States our own communities have been enhanced by the > contributions of Iranian Americans. We know that you are a great > civilization, and your accomplishments have earned the respect of the > United States and the world. > > "Obama Defends Islam" > > This whole section relies on excerpts of the Cairo speech > <http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-at-Cairo-University-6-04-09>. > In none of them does Obama say he himself is a Muslim. This quote leaves > out some context: > > Edited quote: For instance, in the United States, rules on charitable > giving have made it harder for Muslims to fulfill their religious > obligation. That’s why I’m committed to working with American Muslims to > ensure that they can fulfill zakat. … It is important for Western > countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as > they see fit. > > Obama was defending freedom of religion — not Islam as such. At one point > he said Western countries shouldn’t dictate what clothes a Muslim woman > should wear, for example. The video continues: > > Edited quote: And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of > the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever > they appear. > > That’s fair enough. But Obama went on to attack Muslim stereotypes of the > U.S. The video left that on the cutting room floor: > > Omitted quote: But that same principle must apply to Muslim perceptions > of America. (Applause.) Just as Muslims do not fit a crude stereotype, > America is not the crude stereotype of a self-interested empire. The United > States has been one of the greatest sources of progress that the world has > ever known. > > "Obama Declares America to be a Muslim Nation" > > Obama is never shown saying the U.S. is "a Muslim nation." Instead, we see > a clip from a June 28, 2007, keynote address > <http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=news.display_article&mode=C&NewsID=5454> > at > a "Call to Renewal" conference sponsored by the liberal Christian group > Sojourners. > > Edited quote: We are no longer a Christian nation. > > Full Quote: Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation – > at least, not just. We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a > Buddhist nation, and a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers. > > Obama was saying the U.S. is a nation of many faiths, but by dropping the > word "just," the edited version changes the quote’s meaning. That is > followed by more misleading editing of a clip from an April 6, 2009, press > conference <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIVd7YT0oWA> in Turkey: > > Edited quote: We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation. > > Full quote: And I’ve said before that one of the great strengths of the > United States is — although as I mentioned, we have a very large Christian > population, we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish > nation or a Muslim nation; we consider ourselves a nation of citizens who > are bound by ideals and a set of values. > > The video then shows three excerpts from the Cairo address and one from > the Turkish Parliament speech in which he described the impact Muslims and > Islam have made on the U.S. > > Obama (in Turkey): The United States has been enriched by Muslim > Americans. > > Obama (In Cairo): Since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the > United States. … Islam has always been a part of America’s story. … There > is a mosque in every state in our union, and over 1,200 mosques within our > borders. > > All that is accurate enough, but all it amounts to is paying respect to > the religion of others. Obama wasn’t embracing Islam as his own faith. > > The video then shows a clip from an interview Obama gave > <http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/transcript-of-the-interview-of-the-president-by-laura-haim-canal-plus-6-1-09/> > June > 1, 2009, with a French TV station: > > Obama: One of the points I want to make is, if you actually took the > number of Muslim Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in > the world. > > Here, it is the president who is wrong — as we reported > <http://www.factcheck.org/2009/06/obama-us-one-of-the-largest-muslim-countries-not/> > a > couple of days after the interview. The U.S. does have perhaps 2 million > Muslims who attend mosques, and the total Muslim population of the U.S. has > been estimated at 6 million or 7 million. But that’s tiny compared with > countries such as Indonesia or Pakistan. We concluded that the U.S. > probably doesn’t even rank among the top 50 in terms of its Muslim > population. > > The section then ends by repeating the quote from Cairo where Obama said, > "Let there be no doubt, Islam is a part of America." > > The next section has no Obama quotes. It features Fox News pundits > criticizing the president for a brief "bow" to Saudi King Abdullah bin > Abdul Aziz Al-Saud during a visit in London April 1, 2009. The following > section shows an old photo of Obama wearing African garb, which the video > describes as "Traditional Muslim Dress," during a visit to family members > in Kenya as a young man. (The photo is being held up by his half-brother > Malik Obama > <http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=malik%20obama%20karel%20prinsloo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi> > .) > > "Obama Visits A Mosque" > > In a section called "Obama Visits A Mosque" he is pictured touring the > famed Hagia Sophia in Istanbul, Turkey. The structure actually isn’t a > mosque any more: It was converted to a museum in 1935 > <http://www.hagiasophia.com/listingview.php?listingID=8>. This favorite > tourist destination > <http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=39645> was originally > built as a Christian church by a Byzantine emperor, then converted to a > mosque after Istanbul fell to the Ottoman Turks in 1453. > > Another section is called "Obama Sides With Islam," but it’s just TV > reports from 2008 of Obama’s brief refusal to wear an American flag pin in > his lapel. How that equates to siding with Islam is not explained, but in > any case Obama reversed that decision early in his presidential campaign > and routinely wore a flag pin through the remainder of his campaign. > > That section concludes with another edited quote, this one from Obama’s June > 4 speech in Cairo > <http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-at-Cairo-University-6-04-09> > : > > Edited Quote: [L]et me speak as clearly and as plainly as I can. … > America is not — and never will be — at war with Islam. > > Full Quote: [L]et me speak as clearly and as plainly as I can about some > specific issues that I believe we must finally confront together. The first > issue that we have to confront is violent extremism in all of its forms. In > Ankara, I made clear that America is not — and never will be — at war with > Islam. (Applause.) We will, however, relentlessly confront violent > extremists who pose a grave threat to our security — because we reject the > same thing that people of all faiths reject: the killing of innocent men, > women, and children. And it is my first duty as president to protect the > American people. > > What the video’s creator cuts out is Obama’s denouncing "violent > extremists" before his mostly Muslim audience. > > "One of them?" > > The video concludes with footage of a hijacked jetliner striking the World > Trade Center’s South Tower on Sept. 11, 2001, followed by a graphic with > the words "I am one of them" attributed to "Barack Hussein Obama." But as > we noted at the outset, when the president said "I am one of them" to the > Turkish Parliament in April, he was referring to Americans with Muslim > relatives, not to terrorists. > > At the very end, Obama is shown saying "Thank You, and Eid-eh Shoma > Mobarak." Although that may have sounded to the video’s creator like some > sinister utterance in Arabic, Obama was actually speaking Farsi. And he was > saying "Happy New Year to you" > <http://www.farsinet.com/noruz/hajifiruz3.html> at the end of his taped TV > remarks to the Iranian people > <http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/VIDEOTAPED-REMARKS-BY-THE-PRESIDENT-IN-CELEBRATION-OF-NOWRUZ/> > on > Nowruz. > > *— by Justin Bank and Brooks Jackson* > Sources > > White House. "Remarks By President Obama To The Turkish Parliament > <http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-By-President-Obama-To-The-Turkish-Parliament/>." > 6 Apr 2009. > > White House. "Remarks By the President at Cairo University. > <http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-cairo-university-6-04-09>" > 4 Jun 2009. > > Bellatoni, Christina. "Obama’s verbal slip fuels his critics > <http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/07/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/> > ." *Washington Times*. 7 Set 2008. > > Kristof, Nicholas, "Obama: Man of the World. > <http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/opinion/06kristof.html?_r=4>" *New > York Times*. 6 Mar 2007. > > Djang, Jason, "A New Year, A New Beginning > <http://www.whitehouse.gov/nowruz/>," *The White House Blog*. 19 Mar 2009. > > Jafarey, Ali A, "NowRuz – The Zarathustrian New Year > <http://www.zoroastrian.org/articles/nowruz.htm>," www.zoroastrian.org. > Accessed 4 Dec 2009. > > Obama, Barack, "Keynote Address – A Call to Renewal > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35sGJrWKcmY&feature=related>." 28 Jun > 2007. > > White House, "Press Conference > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIVd7YT0oWA>," 6 Apr 2009. > > White House, "Interview of the President by Laura Haim, Canal Plus > <http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/transcript-of-the-interview-of-the-president-by-laura-haim-canal-plus-6-1-09/>." > Jun 1 2009. > "Obama visits mosque, Hagia Sophia > <http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=39645>," *World Bulletin*. > 7 Apr 2009. > > On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 6:53:55 AM UTC-5, Travis wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *[image: Cnn0-U8WAAAe2sr]* >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> [image: Avast logo] <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> >> >> >> >> __._,_.___ >> ------------------------------ >> Posted by: "Beowulf" <[email protected]> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> Visit Your Group >> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/grendelreport/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmcTZwMTgyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0Njg4Nzc3MjQ-> >> >> >> [image: Yahoo! 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