very good!

On Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 7:16:44 PM UTC-5, gtheist957 wrote:
>
> Yes I have been opposed to our involvement in the middle east at least 
> since the the second gulf war. Years ago a question was asked on another 
> group that you were a member of. And that question was could a Muslim be a 
> loyal American and my answer was no. along with any zionist. Who's  
> loyalties are not to our Constitution because of sharia and Talmudic law. 
> And I still believe that.
>
> On Aug 2, 2016 7:01 PM, "plainolamerican" <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> I agree with that
> ---
> ditto.
> sanity is a hard thing to ignore.
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 6:32:36 PM UTC-5, gtheist957 wrote:
>
>> I agree with that 
>>
>> On Aug 2, 2016 6:29 PM, "Brian Bednarek" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe it's time to leave the region and let god or allah decide the fate 
>>> of them ... I am 100% against more America lives lost in a clan war that 
>>> the west has fanned the flames of since the first World War!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's just a matter of time before the majority of thinking Americans 
>>>> realize that Islam is incompatible with Western societies;  *e.g*.; 
>>>>  American society.   Your premise is flawed Plain Ol'.....It's already 
>>>> happening in Germany,  France and Great Britain.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:25 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It’s Not Just A Clash Of Civilizations, It’s Also A War Of Religions
>>>>> ---
>>>>> it's an old and silly abrahamic war that's fucked up the middle east 
>>>>> and europe.
>>>>> their war ... their problem.
>>>>> Most Americans will not side with any of their klans.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 2:18:37 PM UTC-5, Travis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.rightsidenews.com/editorial/rsn-pick-of-the-day/not-just-clash-civilizations-also-war-religions/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> It’s Not Just A Clash Of Civilizations, It’s Also A War Of Religions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Posted on: *August 2, 2016*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Col. Tom Snodgrass (Ret.), *Right Side News*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> History And Reality
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When the Islamic enemy first launched its jihads to install the 
>>>>>> Islamic religion and culture to be dominant throughout the world, they 
>>>>>> were 
>>>>>> and now are continuing to follow the commands of Mohammad (the 
>>>>>> religion’s 
>>>>>> creator), the Quran (allegedly the verbatim words of the god Allah), and 
>>>>>> the Islamic Sharia law (derived from the Quran and various accounts of 
>>>>>> Mohammad’s life).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Mohammad:* *“I have been commanded to fight people until they 
>>>>>> testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the 
>>>>>> Messenger 
>>>>>> of Allah”* 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Quran: **“And when the sacred months *[four periods during the year 
>>>>>> when tribal warfare was forbidden by mutual tribal agreement on the 
>>>>>> Arabian 
>>>>>> peninsula in Muhammad’s time]* have passed, then kill the 
>>>>>> unbelievers wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and 
>>>>>> sit in wait for them at every place of ambush.” *[*9:5* 
>>>>>> <http://quran.com/9>]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Quran:* *“Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last 
>>>>>> Day *[Islamic final eschatological victory]* and who do not consider 
>>>>>> unlawful what Allah and His Messenger *[Muhammad]* have made 
>>>>>> unlawful *[that is, do not practice Islamic Sharia jurisprudence]* and 
>>>>>> who do not adopt the religion of truth *[Islam] *from those *[Jews 
>>>>>> and Christians]* who were given the Scripture  *[the Jewish and 
>>>>>> Christian Old & New Testaments]*  – fight until they give the jizya 
>>>>>> *[Muslim 
>>>>>> extortion-submission tax on non-Muslims]* willingly while they are 
>>>>>> humbled.”* [*9:29* <http://quran.com/9>]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sharia:* “*Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is 
>>>>>> etymologically derived from the word ‘mujahada’ signifying warfare to 
>>>>>> establish the religion.” *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, these unmistakable and incontrovertible imperialist 
>>>>>> mandates from three separate Islamic scriptural sources applying to all 
>>>>>> Muslims are but a smidgen of the hundreds of commandments in Islamic 
>>>>>> scripture, that is, the Quran (“sacred” book), Haditha (reports 
>>>>>> describing 
>>>>>> the words, actions, or habits of Muhammad), Sira (biographies of 
>>>>>> Mohammad), 
>>>>>> and Sharia (law) that dictate warfare to establish the Islamic religion 
>>>>>> as 
>>>>>> supreme over all other religions and beliefs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Naturally, the imperialistic mandates of Islam brought Muslims into 
>>>>>> constant conflict with the societies they sought to conquer, among them 
>>>>>> Christian Europe. Contrary to today’s Christian leadership that is 
>>>>>> frightened to identify Islam as the aggressive, politico-imperialistic 
>>>>>> doctrine which Mohammad created under the guise of being a religion, the 
>>>>>> early Christian leaders were clear-eyed and imbued with the courage of 
>>>>>> their religion’s namesake, Jesus Christ.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For instance, St. Thomas Aquinas 
>>>>>> <http://www.onepeterfive.com/what-did-the-saints-say-about-islam/> 
>>>>>> wrote of Mohammad and his false religion:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *“On the other hand, those who founded sects committed to erroneous 
>>>>>> doctrines proceeded in a way that is opposite to this *[Christianity]*, 
>>>>>> the point is clear in the case of Muhammad. He seduced the people by 
>>>>>> promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh 
>>>>>> goads 
>>>>>> us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with 
>>>>>> his 
>>>>>> promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. In all this, as is 
>>>>>> not 
>>>>>> unexpected, he was obeyed by carnal men. As for proofs of the truth of 
>>>>>> his 
>>>>>> doctrine, he brought forward only such as could be grasped by the 
>>>>>> natural 
>>>>>> ability of anyone with a very modest wisdom. Indeed, the truths that he 
>>>>>> taught he mingled with many fables and with doctrines of the greatest 
>>>>>> falsity. He did not bring forth any signs produced in a supernatural 
>>>>>> way, 
>>>>>> which alone fittingly gives witness to divine inspiration; for a visible 
>>>>>> action that can be only divine reveals an invisibly inspired teacher of 
>>>>>> truth. On the contrary, Muhammad said that he was sent in the power of 
>>>>>> his 
>>>>>> arms—which are signs not lacking even to robbers and tyrants.”*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Aquinas was not the only saint that possessed the wisdom and 
>>>>>> fortitude of Christ to call out religious fraud as opposed to the 
>>>>>> present 
>>>>>> day cowardice of the church’s pusillanimous ecclesiastics. Here are what 
>>>>>> other saints recorded about the Islamic false prophet, Mohammad, and his 
>>>>>> religion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> St. John Damascene 
>>>>>> <http://www.onepeterfive.com/what-did-the-saints-say-about-islam/>*: 
>>>>>> “There is also the superstition of the Ishmaelites which to this day 
>>>>>> prevails and keeps people in error, being a forerunner of the 
>>>>>> Antichrist…. 
>>>>>> From that time to the present a false prophet named Mohammed has 
>>>>>> appeared 
>>>>>> in their midst. This man, after having chanced upon the Old and New 
>>>>>> Testaments and likewise, it seems, having conversed with an Arian monk, 
>>>>>> devised his own heresy. Then, having insinuated himself into the good 
>>>>>> graces of the people by a show of seeming piety, he gave out that a 
>>>>>> certain 
>>>>>> book had been sent down to him from heaven. He had set down some 
>>>>>> ridiculous 
>>>>>> compositions in this book of his and he gave it to them as an object of 
>>>>>> veneration.”*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> St. Juan de Ribera 
>>>>>> <http://www.onepeterfive.com/what-did-the-saints-say-about-islam/>: *“As 
>>>>>> we have seen, Muhammad had neither supernatural miracles nor natural 
>>>>>> motives of reason to persuade those of his sect. As he lacked in 
>>>>>> everything, he took to bestial and barbaric means, which is the force of 
>>>>>> arms. Thus he introduced and promulgated his message with robberies, 
>>>>>> murders, and blood shedding, destroying those who did not want to 
>>>>>> receive 
>>>>>> it, and with the same means his ministers conserve this today, until God 
>>>>>> placates his anger and destroys this pestilence from the earth.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *“Even if all the things contained in his law were fables in 
>>>>>> philosophy and errors in theology, even for those who do not possess the 
>>>>>> light of reason, the very manners (Islam) teaches are from a school of 
>>>>>> vicious bestialities. Muhammad did not prove his new sect with any 
>>>>>> motive, 
>>>>>> having neither supernatural miracles nor natural reasons, but solely the 
>>>>>> force of arms, violence, fictions, lies, and carnal license. It remains 
>>>>>> an 
>>>>>> impious, blasphemous, vicious cult, an innovation of the devil, and the 
>>>>>> direct way into the fires of hell. It does not even merit the name of 
>>>>>> being 
>>>>>> called a religion.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> St. Peter Mavimenus 
>>>>>> <http://www.onepeterfive.com/what-did-the-saints-say-about-islam/>: 
>>>>>> *“Whoever 
>>>>>> does not embrace the Catholic Christian faith is lost, like your false 
>>>>>> prophet Muhammad.”*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> St. Alfonsus Liguori 
>>>>>> <http://www.onepeterfive.com/what-did-the-saints-say-about-islam/>*: 
>>>>>> “The Mahometan paradise, however, is only fit for beasts; for filthy 
>>>>>> sensual pleasure is all the believer has to expect there.”*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sts. Habenitus, Jeremiah, Peter, Sabinian, Walabonsus, and 
>>>>>> Wistremundus 
>>>>>> <http://www.onepeterfive.com/what-did-the-saints-say-about-islam/>: *“We 
>>>>>> profess Christ to be truly God and your prophet to be a precursor of the 
>>>>>> Antichrist and other profane doctrine.”*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sts. Aurelius, Felix, George, Liliosa, and Natalia: *“Any cult which 
>>>>>> denies the divinity of Christ, does not profess the existence of the 
>>>>>> Holy 
>>>>>> Trinity, refutes baptism, defames Christians, and derogates the 
>>>>>> priesthood, 
>>>>>> we consider to be damned.”* 
>>>>>> <http://www.onepeterfive.com/what-did-the-saints-say-about-islam/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   <http://www.onepeterfive.com/what-did-the-saints-say-about-islam/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It’s as if these Christian saints don’t even belong to the same 
>>>>>> Christian church today that treats Islam as coequal to Christianity as 
>>>>>> an 
>>>>>> Abrahamic faith.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> The Christian Church’s Current Leaders’ Denial Is Not Protecting 
>>>>>> Christians From The Reality Of Islamic Jihad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today, Islam is slaughtering Christians all over the world from 
>>>>>> Southeast Asia to Southwest Asia to Russia to the Middle East to Africa 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> Europe and beyond. The most recent case of Muslims murdering a Christian 
>>>>>> in 
>>>>>> the name of Allah and his scriptural genocidal mandates occurred in 
>>>>>> Normandy, France 
>>>>>> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3708394/Two-men-armed-knives-people-hostage-French-church.html>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> when two ”soldiers of Allah,” that had sworn allegiance to the Islamic 
>>>>>> State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), slit the throat of an 84-year-old 
>>>>>> Catholic 
>>>>>> priest in the middle of a morning Mass. They were shot dead while 
>>>>>> screaming 
>>>>>> “Allahu Akbar” as they emerged from the church. Initially Pope Francis 
>>>>>> refused to even acknowledge Islamic jihad’s role in this clearly 
>>>>>> religiously motivated murder of the priest, instead he characterized it 
>>>>>> as “an 
>>>>>> absurd murder 
>>>>>> <https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8561/france-chuch-martyrdom-pope>.” 
>>>>>> Not one of the Vatican clergy would even say the word “Islam.” 
>>>>>> However, later on reflection he had these astoundingly foolish 
>>>>>> things to say 
>>>>>> <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/08/01/pope-francis-speak-islamic-violence-must-speak-catholic-violence/>
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “If I speak of Islamic violence, I must speak of Catholic violence. 
>>>>>> And no, not all Muslims are violent, not all Catholics are violent. It 
>>>>>> is 
>>>>>> like a fruit salad; there’s everything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “I had a long conversation with the imam, the Grand Imam of the 
>>>>>> Al-Azhar University, and I know how they think. They seek peace, 
>>>>>> encounter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “I do not believe it is right to identify Islam with violence. This 
>>>>>> is not right or true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “Terrorism grows when there are no other options, and when the center 
>>>>>> of the global economy is the god of money and not the person,” Francis 
>>>>>> said. “You have cast out the wonder of creation — man and woman — and 
>>>>>> you 
>>>>>> have put money in its place. This is a basic terrorism against all of 
>>>>>> humanity! Think about it!”
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For anyone interested in reading innumerable additional anecdotal 
>>>>>> examples of other Islamic atrocities against Christians around the world 
>>>>>> that contradict the Pope, see Raymond Ibrahim’s “Muslim Persecution 
>>>>>> of Christians 
>>>>>> <http://raymondibrahim.mgtestsite.com/category/muslim-persecution-of-christians/>
>>>>>> .”
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is impossible to know the exact number of Christians martyred by 
>>>>>> Islam since the first jihad against Byzantine Christians in Syria in 634 
>>>>>> A.D., let alone in the entire world just since September 11, 2001, but a 
>>>>>> rough estimate from the Vatican 
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians> for recent 
>>>>>> times puts the number of Christians martyred at around 100,000 a year, 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> vast majority of which are victims of Islam. And the magnitude of the 
>>>>>> Christian genocide grows because the Islamic jihad goes unchecked by any 
>>>>>> serious effort on the part of the national powers of Western 
>>>>>> Civilization 
>>>>>> or Christian churches. Apparently the Pope doesn’t read what the Vatican 
>>>>>> statisticians publish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Furthermore, the ostensible leader of Western Christianity, Pope 
>>>>>> Francis, is so encumbered by foolishness that earlier he published his 
>>>>>> “APOSTOLIC EXHORTATION *EVANGELII GAUDIUM* 
>>>>>> <http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium.html#Ecumenical_dialogue>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> OF THE HOLY FATHER *FRANCIS* TO THE BISHOPS, CLERGY, CONSECRATED 
>>>>>> PERSONS AND THE LAY FAITHFUL ON THE PROCLAMATION OF THE GOSPEL IN 
>>>>>> TODAY’S 
>>>>>> WORLD” containing these baseless, counterfactual assertions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *“Our relationship with the followers of Islam has taken on great 
>>>>>> importance, since they are now significantly present in many 
>>>>>> traditionally 
>>>>>> Christian countries, where they can freely worship and become fully a 
>>>>>> part 
>>>>>> of society. We must never forget that they ‘profess to hold the faith of 
>>>>>> Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, who will 
>>>>>> judge humanity on the last day’.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *“Faced with disconcerting episodes of violent fundamentalism, our 
>>>>>> respect for true followers of Islam should lead us to avoid hateful 
>>>>>> generalizations, for authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Koran 
>>>>>> are opposed to every form of violence.”*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding the first assertion that Islam is a faith in the Abrahamic 
>>>>>> tradition, please see my “Islam Is Not An Abrahamic Religion 
>>>>>> <http://www.rightsidenews.com/editorial/rsn-pick-of-the-day/islam-not-abrahamic-religion/>.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> One example from that article is Christ said: “Love your enemies 
>>>>>> <https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A43-45> and 
>>>>>> pray for those who persecute you,” while Allah said: “Fight in the 
>>>>>> way of Allah <http://quran.com/2/190-194> those who fight you . . . 
>>>>>> And kill them wherever you overtake them.” One need not be a religious 
>>>>>> theologian or a pope to comprehend that ‘a god’ cannot possibly be the 
>>>>>> same 
>>>>>> ‘deity’ when that ‘divine source’ issues completely contradictory 
>>>>>> instructions to followers on how to behave in exactly the same 
>>>>>> circumstances. One only needs the courage to acknowledge what common 
>>>>>> sense 
>>>>>> indicates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Muslims’ devious purpose in claiming a shared Abrahamic religious 
>>>>>> heritage with Judaism and Christianity is to lull them into dropping 
>>>>>> their 
>>>>>> guard as Islam is constantly attempting to undermine these religions 
>>>>>> through stealth jihad. The Islamic objective is to get the principles of 
>>>>>> Sharia law accepted piece by piece within these two religious cultures. 
>>>>>> Pope Francis’ acceptance of this Islamic psychological warfare ploy of 
>>>>>> ‘Abrahamic fiction’ is a terrifying example of just how far Islamic 
>>>>>> stealth 
>>>>>> jihad has made inroads in morally disarming Western Civilization.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, complete refutation of the Pope’s reality-denying 
>>>>>> assertion that “authentic Islam” is* “opposed to every form of 
>>>>>> violence*” is undeniable in the above opening quotes from Mohammad, 
>>>>>> the Quran, and Sharia mandating religious war against all non-Islamic 
>>>>>> religions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Pope is just totally wrong about the Abrahamic origin of Islam 
>>>>>> and its peaceful character as is proven by Christian and Islamic 
>>>>>> scripture. 
>>>>>> Furthermore, the writings of the early Christian church fathers, that 
>>>>>> is, 
>>>>>> Saints Thomas Aquinas, John Damascene, Juan de Ribera, Peter Mavimenus, 
>>>>>> Alfonsus Liguori, Habenitus, Jeremiah, Peter, Sabinian, Walabonsus, 
>>>>>> Wistremundus, Aurelius, Felix, George, Liliosa, and Natalia rebuke the 
>>>>>> Pope 
>>>>>> unequivocally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Such a tremendous discrepancy between Christian leaders of the Middle 
>>>>>> Ages and today begs the question: What do contemporary Christian leaders 
>>>>>> think they know that the early Church saints, many of whom were martyred 
>>>>>> by 
>>>>>> Islamic jihadists for their courageous rejection of Islam, didn’t know?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Common Sense Analysis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First, why would the Pope and the leadership of other Christian 
>>>>>> denominations 
>>>>>> <http://nationalcouncilofchurches.us/member-communions/> like 
>>>>>> Episcopalian, Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist, Greek Orthodox, Syrian 
>>>>>> Orthodox, Ukrainian Orthodox, United Church of Christ, Disciples of 
>>>>>> Christ, 
>>>>>> Religious Society of Friends, etc., slavishly take their “
>>>>>> stand-by-my-Islam” <http://www.ncccusa.org/interfaith/ifr.html> 
>>>>>> position? One possible reason is that they see their first priority as a 
>>>>>> battle 
>>>>>> against secularism 
>>>>>> <http://www.crisismagazine.com/2014/truth-consequences-next-scandal>, 
>>>>>> and they regard Islam’s one billion-plus worldwide umma as a great asset 
>>>>>> in 
>>>>>> this conflict with unbelief. However, as Islam increasingly carries out 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> murder and mayhem inherent to jihad on a global scale, this alleged 
>>>>>> ‘Abrahamic sameness’ will give secularist opponents of Christianity 
>>>>>> ammunition to discredit Christianity as being no different from violent 
>>>>>> Islam. Once Christianity is convincingly tarred with the same violent 
>>>>>> brush 
>>>>>> as Islam, it will lend seeming validity to the atheists’ timeless charge 
>>>>>> that all religions lead to eventual war and destruction. The result will 
>>>>>> be 
>>>>>> that Christianity and its clergy will be seriously discredited.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Second, there is another and perhaps even greater liability to 
>>>>>> seeking such a close, uncritical, interreligious relationship and 
>>>>>> identity 
>>>>>> with Islam, and that is the appearance and perception of the Christian 
>>>>>> church’s deliberate cover-up of Islam’s murderous doctrine of religious 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> cultural conquest. As the Christian leadership continues to falsely 
>>>>>> maintain that “terror has nothing to do with Islam,” Christians cannot 
>>>>>> but 
>>>>>> help to notice and understand that what their Christian clergy is 
>>>>>> telling 
>>>>>> them is not consistent with their daily reality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And just as the Catholic scandal of covering-up the priesthood’s 
>>>>>> sexual abuse of children irreparably damaged the Catholic Church, so a 
>>>>>> Christianity-wide scandal of purposely misleading followers on an issue 
>>>>>> critical to theirs and their family’s actual physical security could 
>>>>>> eventually cause Christians to reject their leaders because of their 
>>>>>> blighted credibility, which the leaders themselves are currently 
>>>>>> damaging. 
>>>>>> Whether the Christian authorities delude their followers due to 
>>>>>> self-imposed ignorance of the truth of Islamic scriptural jihad 
>>>>>> mandates, 
>>>>>> political correctness, moral cowardice, or all three, the Christian 
>>>>>> church 
>>>>>> will be held as an accomplice to abetting Islamic jihadist murder and 
>>>>>> chaos 
>>>>>> through their disseminating misinformation that impedes countering 
>>>>>> jihad. 
>>>>>> Consider the absurdity of the prevailing situation wherein most 
>>>>>> Christian 
>>>>>> clergy are telling followers that “Islam is peaceful, non-violent, and 
>>>>>> not 
>>>>>> involved in terrorism,” while Muslim terrorists are screaming “Allahu 
>>>>>> Akbar!” as they are murdering Christians!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Conclusion
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Finally, It is difficult to hold the Pope and the other contemporary 
>>>>>> Christian leadership in anything but contempt as they servilely offer 
>>>>>> excuses, apologies, and untruths to their congregants concerning Islamic 
>>>>>> jihad, especially considering St. Thomas Aquinas’ scathing appraisal of 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> deficiency in intellect of those who do not or cannot see and denounce 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> entirely mendacious nature of Islam. Aquinas pronounces them fools.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> St. Thomas Aquinas 
>>>>>> <http://www.opusdeialert.com/st-thomas-aquinas-against-mohammed.htm>: 
>>>>>> “*What is more, no wise men, men trained in things divine and human, 
>>>>>> believed in him from the beginning.. Those who believed in him were 
>>>>>> brutal 
>>>>>> men and desert wanderers, utterly ignorant of all divine teaching, 
>>>>>> through 
>>>>>> whose numbers Mohammed forced others to become his followers by the 
>>>>>> violence of his arms. Nor do divine pronouncements on the part of 
>>>>>> preceding 
>>>>>> prophets offer him any witness. On the contrary, he perverts almost all 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> testimony of the Old and the New Testaments by making them into a 
>>>>>> fabrication of his own, as can be seen by anyone who examines his law. 
>>>>>> It 
>>>>>> was, therefore, a shrewd decision on his part to forbid his followers to 
>>>>>> read the Old and New Testaments, lest these books convict him of 
>>>>>> falsity. 
>>>>>> It is thus clear that those who place faith in his words believe 
>>>>>> foolishly.”*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But the most damning contradiction of Christian leaders shilling for 
>>>>>> Islam was issued by the founder of the religion they profess to lead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  “Beware of false prophets 
>>>>>> <https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7%3A15-20&version=NKJV>,
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous 
>>>>>> wolves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the more than a millennium of assaults launched against 
>>>>>> Christianity by the heresy concocted by the wolf in sheep’s clothing and 
>>>>>> false prophet Mohammad, as prophesied by Christ, was addressed directly 
>>>>>> by 
>>>>>> St. Thomas Aquinas. Aquinas maintained that forceful resistance of evil 
>>>>>> is 
>>>>>> a right and obligation of Christians.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *“**Legitimate defense* 
>>>>>> <http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/a-christian-duty-in-the-face-of-terror?f=must_reads>*
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> can be not only a right but a grave duty for someone responsible for 
>>>>>> another’s life, the common good of the family or of the State.”*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By Aquinas’ Christian standards, leaders of contemporary Christian 
>>>>>> churches are derelict in their responsibility to shield followers from 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> Christian heresy that is the false prophet Mohammad’s Islam, which is 
>>>>>> murdering Christians to perpetrate the heresy. It is the clear case 
>>>>>> where 
>>>>>> the Christian shepherds have a divinely mandated responsibility to 
>>>>>> protect 
>>>>>> their flocks from ravenous wolves. But they are failing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
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