Yes I agree if American citizens are being displaced then the legal justification isn't there.
On Jan 29, 2017 5:29 PM, "Keith In Tampa" <[email protected]> wrote: > Both have to stop, and at least with legal immigration, a hiatus for a > while; and maybe a review of who, and who not we're allowing into our > borders. > > > > On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 5:05 PM, geoffrey theist <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Legal immigrants aren't the problem to extent that the illegals are but >> they are drawing attention to the legal immigrants. The percentage of sheer >> numbers of citizens being displaced by out sourcing and illegal immigrants >> far out weights legal immigration >> >> On Jan 29, 2017 3:57 PM, "plainolamerican" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I think it's the deluge of immigrants, both legal and illegal, pouring >> into Western Nations. >> --- >> >> The *Immigration Act of 1990* (Pub.L. 101–649 >> <http://legislink.org/us/pl-101-649>, 104 Stat. >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Statutes_at_Large> 4978 >> <http://legislink.org/us/stat-104-4978>, enacted November 29, 1990) was >> signed into law by George H. W. Bush >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush> on November 29, 1990. >> [1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-1> It >> was first introduced by Senator Ted Kennedy >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kennedy> in 1989. It was a national >> reform of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965>. >> It increased total, overall immigration to allow 700,000 immigrants to come >> to the U.S. per year for the fiscal years '92–'94, and 675,000 per year >> after that.[2] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Fordham_Journal_Highlights-2> >> It >> provided family based immigration visa, created five distinct employment >> based visas, categorized by occupation, as well as the diversity visa >> program which created a lottery to admit immigrants from "low admittance" >> countries [3] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-US_immigration_legislation-3> >> or >> countries where their citizenry was underrepresented in the U.S. >> >> Besides these immigrant visas there was also changes in nonimmigrant >> visas like the H-1B visa <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-1B_visa> for >> highly skilled workers. There were also cutbacks in the allotment of visas >> available for extended relatives.[4] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Immigration_Act_of_1990_Blue_title-4> >> The Temporary protected status >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_protected_status> visa was also >> created where Congress established a procedure by which the Attorney >> General may provide TPS to immigrants in the United States who are >> temporarily unable to safely return to their home country because of >> ongoing armed conflict, an environmental disaster, or other extraordinary >> and temporary condition. It specifically benefited citizens of El >> Salvador <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Salvador>.[2] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Fordham_Journal_Highlights-2> >> >> Other aspects of the act include lifting the English testing process for >> naturalization which was imposed in the Naturalization Act of 1906 >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1906> [5] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Boundless-5> >> and >> eliminating the exclusion of homosexuals under the medically unsound >> classification of "sexual deviant" that was present in the passage of the >> 1965 Act.[6] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Homosexual_liberation-6> >> George >> H. W. Bush is quoted in saying "I am also pleased to note that this Act >> facilitates immigration not just in numerical terms, but also in terms of >> basic entry rights of those beyond our borders."[7] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-G_Bush-7> >> The >> administration, therefore, saw the importance of this amendment in >> extending a welcoming to those previously excluded nations/individuals. >> >> Contents [hide] >> >> - 1Family reunification >> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#Family_reunification> >> - 2Job-based immigration >> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#Job-based_immigration> >> - 3Diversity Immigrant Visas >> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#Diversity_Immigrant_Visas> >> - 4Comments from the Bush Administration >> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#Comments_from_the_Bush_Administration> >> - 5Non-immigrant visas >> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#Non-immigrant_visas> >> - 6Significance >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#Significance> >> - 7References >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#References> >> >> Family reunification[edit >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Immigration_Act_of_1990&action=edit§ion=1> >> ] >> >> Family reunification remained a priority as it had been in the Immigration >> and Nationality Act of 1965 >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965>. >> This act expanded the number of family-based immigration visas allotted per >> year to 480,000 but to do this it also made the definition of family more >> exclusive by limiting it to immediate family members.[4] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Immigration_Act_of_1990_Blue_title-4> >> Job-based immigration[edit >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Immigration_Act_of_1990&action=edit§ion=2> >> ] >> >> Job-based immigration was divided amongst five occupational categories in >> the 1990 Immigration act (in the 1965 act only two existed.[2] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Fordham_Journal_Highlights-2> >> The >> act provided 140,000 visas per year for job based immigration.[4] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Immigration_Act_of_1990_Blue_title-4> >> These >> categories were: >> >> - EB-1 visa <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EB-1_visa> (for an alien >> of extraordinary ability >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_of_extraordinary_ability>) >> - EB-2 visa <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EB-2_visa> >> - EB-3 visa <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EB-3_visa> >> - EB-4 visa >> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=EB-4_visa&action=edit&redlink=1> >> - EB-5 visa <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EB-5_visa> >> >> The EB 4 visa is a vague but has to do with religious workers who wish to >> continue their career in the U.S. The reason for this distinct category is >> because the other visas require employer contact and labor certification >> through the U.S. Department of Labor >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Labor>, while >> the religious worker visa applicant is not strictly limited to >> employer-sponsored entry.[2] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Fordham_Journal_Highlights-2> >> >> In addition to having to be employer-sponsored, in most cases, the >> foreigner had to be applying to work in an area of labor shortage in the >> U.S. and if this was not the case, the employer had to bargain on their >> behalf and proves that they had exhausted all other domestic recruiting >> efforts.[2] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Fordham_Journal_Highlights-2> >> Diversity Immigrant Visas[edit >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Immigration_Act_of_1990&action=edit§ion=3> >> ] >> >> Diversity Immigrant Visa >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity_Immigrant_Visa> was a new, >> important facet of the amendment that had never been instituted in national >> immigration policy before. "Starting in 1991, every year the Attorney >> General <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Attorney_General>, >> decides from information gathered over the most recent five year period the >> regions or country that are considered High Admission or Low Admission >> States"[8] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-8> from >> this analysis citizens of certain nations are deemed eligible or ineligible >> to apply for a diversity visa. "A High Admission region or country is one >> that has had 50,000 immigrants or more acquire a permanent residency visa. >> The High Admission regions are not given visas under this act in order to >> promote diversity."[3] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-US_immigration_legislation-3> >> Starting >> in fiscal year 1995, the cap of 55,000 visas were allotted as "diversity" >> visas. Today it is more around 50,000. Changes have been made to the >> diversity visa requirements almost every other year (if not more) since >> 1990 to assess which countries qualify (see Diversity Immigrant Visa >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity_Immigrant_Visa>). In 1990 the >> qualifying countries were as follows: Albania, Algeria, Argentina, Austria, >> Belgium, Czech republic, Slovakia, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France >> (including Guadeloupe and New Caledonia), Germany, Great Britain and >> Northern Ireland (including Bermuda and Gibraltar), Hungary, Iceland, >> Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, >> Luxembourg, Monaco, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, San Marino, Sweden, >> Switzerland and Tunisia.[9] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Stanford-9> >> There >> are a number of qualifications to obtaining this visa besides being from >> one of the qualifying zones. You must: >> >> - Have a high school diploma >> - Have 2 years work experience and 2 years job training >> >> In addition, the SOS keeps track of age, occupation, education, etc. of >> all immigrants obtaining this visa. The selection of qualifying applicants >> is random. Once you are approved and granted a visa, family unification >> does extend to these visa holders. Children and spouses are eligible for >> permanent residency. This policy, notably, positively effected displaced >> Tibetans from 1991–1994 who were given 1,000 visas per year.[3] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-US_immigration_legislation-3> >> Comments from the Bush Administration[edit >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Immigration_Act_of_1990&action=edit§ion=4> >> ] >> >> George Bush: "S. 358 accomplishes what this Administration sought from >> the outset of the immigration reform process: a complementary blending of >> our tradition of family reunification with increased immigration of skilled >> individuals to meet our economic needs." >> >> "Today I am pleased to sign S. 358, the 'Immigration Act of 1990'—the >> most comprehensive reform of our immigration laws in 66 years." >> >> "Immigration reform began in 1986 with an effort to close the "back door" >> on illegal immigration through enactment of the 1986 Immigration Reform >> and Control Act >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986> >> (IRCA). >> Now, as we open the "front door" to increased legal immigration, I am >> pleased that this Act also provides needed enforcement authority." >> >> "I am also pleased to note that this Act facilitates immigration not just >> in numerical terms, but also in terms of basic entry rights of those beyond >> our borders. S. 358 revises the politically related "exclusion grounds" for >> the first time since their enactment in 1952."[7] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-G_Bush-7> >> Non-immigrant visas[edit >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Immigration_Act_of_1990&action=edit§ion=5> >> ] >> >> Controversy over the immigration act of 1990 stemmed mostly from the >> expansion of the green cards available for foreign laborers while limiting >> the access to temporary visas such as the H-1B visa >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-1B_visa> for visiting scholars. A >> bulletin released by the Stanford University News Service in Sept. 1991 >> claims that "Stanford, and other universities, will have to do more >> paperwork to hire short-term visiting professors and researchers under the >> H-1 visa program."[9] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Stanford-9> >> >> The bill also introduced a cap of 65,000 per year to H-1B and excluded >> nurses, entertainers, athletes, and artists from qualifying.[2] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Fordham_Journal_Highlights-2> >> Another >> short term visa is "D" category nonimmigrants who work "aboard sea or air >> carriers or as longshore workers" there were more constraints added to >> their ability to obtain visas as well.[2] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Fordham_Journal_Highlights-2> >> >> However, it also created new categories of nonimmigrant visas. The O and >> P categories were for extraordinarily skilled foreigners in the realm of >> entertainment, athletics, science, etc. Their admittance depended upon >> "consultation with the appropriate unions," usually who are asking them to >> the U.S. and their time allowed here depended on how long the >> event/activity they were participating in lasted.[2] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Fordham_Journal_Highlights-2> >> Significance[edit >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Immigration_Act_of_1990&action=edit§ion=6> >> ] >> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chart_of_foreign_born_in_the_US_labor_force_1900_to_2007.png> >> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chart_of_foreign_born_in_the_US_labor_force_1900_to_2007.png> >> Foreign-born in US labor force 1900-2015 >> >> After it became law, the United States would admit 700,000 new immigrants >> annually, up from 500,000 before the bill's passage. The new system >> continued to favor people with family members that already worked in the >> United States, but added 50,000 "diversity visas" for countries from which >> few were emigrating, as well as 40,000 permanent job-related workers and >> 65,000 temporary worker visas.[10] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-10> >> Additional >> provisions strengthened the U.S. Border Patrol >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Border_Patrol> and altered language >> regarding disease restrictions in a way that permitted the Secretary of >> Health and Human Services >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_Health_and_Human_Services> to >> remove AIDS <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS> from the list of >> illnesses making a prospective immigrant ineligible to enter the country. >> [11] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Aids_restriction_lifted-11> >> >> Following the passage of this act, there were more immigrants admitted to >> the U.S. in this decade than any prior decade in U.S. history with 10–11 >> million documented entries.[5] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Boundless-5> >> >> This act also led to the creation of the *Jordan Commission or the U.S. >> Commission on Immigration Reform*. The Commission released 4 reports >> covering every aspect of U.S. Immigration policy and evaluated its quality >> and effectiveness, making recommendations based on their findings.[12] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Jordan_Commish-12> >> >> The report concluded with the following statement of principles: >> "Properly-regulated immigration and immigrant policy serves the national >> interest by ensuring the entry of those who will contribute most to our >> society and helping lawful newcomers adjust to life in the United States. >> It must give due consideration to shifting economic realities. A >> well-regulated system sets priorities for admission; facilitates nuclear >> family reunification; gives employers access to a global labor market while >> protecting U.S. workers; helps to generate jobs and economic growth; and >> fulfills our commitment to resettle refugees as one of several elements of >> humanitarian protection of the persecuted."[12] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Jordan_Commish-12> >> >> >> 1948 >> >> The Displaced Persons Act allows up to 200,000 refugees displaced by >> World War II to enter the U.S. >> 1950 >> >> Internal Security Act allows the deportation of any immigrants who were >> ever members of the Communist Party. >> 1952 >> >> Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (the McCarran-Walter Act) >> consolidates earlier immigration legislation into one law and eliminates >> race as a basis of exclusion. However, race continues to be a factor >> because the quota system remains in place, except for immigrants from the >> western hemisphere. Immigration from any country is capped at 1/6th of 1% >> of the population of that nationality based on the 1920 census. >> 1965 >> >> The Immigration Act of 1965 gets rid of the nationality quotas, but >> limits annual immigration from the eastern hemisphere to 170,000, with a >> limit of 20,000 immigrants per country, and for the first time caps annual >> immigration from the western hemisphere at 120,000, without the country >> limit. In addition, a preference system is established for family members >> of U.S. citizens. >> 1966 >> >> Cuban Adjustment Act allows Cubans to apply for permanent resident status >> after residing in the U.S. for two years. >> 1975 >> >> At the end of the Vietnam War, the U.S. passes the Indochina Migration >> and Refugee Assistance Act of 1975 that resettles about 200,000 Vietnamese >> and Cambodian refugees in the U.S. and gives them a special parole status. >> The program was extended to Laotians in 1976. >> 1978 >> >> The immigration caps outlined in the 1965 Immigration Act are replaced >> with an overall annual limit of 290,000. >> 1980 >> >> The Refugee Act defines refugees as a person who flees his or her country >> “on account of race, religion, nationality, or political opinion.” Refugees >> are considered a different category than immigrants. The president and >> Congress are granted the authority to establish an annual ceiling on the >> number of refugees allowed into the U.S. The act also lowers the annual >> limit of immigrants to 270,000, from 290,000. >> 1986 >> >> The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA) allows immigrants >> who had entered the U.S. before Jan. 1, 1982, to apply for legal status but >> required them to pay fines, fees, and back taxes. It also gives the same >> rights to immigrants who worked in agricultural jobs for 90 days before May >> 1982. About 3 million immigrants gained legal status through the law. The >> act also requires employers to verify work status of all new hires and fine >> those who hire undocumented workers. >> 1990 >> >> The Immigration Act of 1990 sets an annual ceiling of 700,000 immigrants >> for three years, and 675,000 thereafter. >> 1996 >> >> The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act broadens >> the definition of “aggravated felony” and increases the number of crimes >> classified as such so immigrants could be deported for a wider range of >> crimes. The law is applied retroactively. The act also increased the number >> of Border Patrol agents and established an “expedited removal” procedure to >> deport immigrants without a formal hearing. >> >> Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act sharply >> cuts legal permanent residents’ eligibility for many public-assistance >> benefits, including food stamps, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), >> Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), and Medicaid. >> 2005 >> >> The REAL ID Act of 2005 requires states to verify a person’s immigration >> status or citizenship before issuing licenses, expands restrictions on >> refugees requesting asylum, and limits the habeas corpus rights of >> immigrants. >> 2006 >> >> The REAL ID Act of 2005 requires states to verify a person’s immigration >> status or citizenship before issuing licenses, expands restrictions on >> refugees requesting asylum, and limits the habeas corpus rights of >> immigrants. >> 2014 >> >> On Nov. 20, 2014, President Barack Obama announced he was taking >> executive action to delay the deportation of some 5 million illegal >> immigrants. Under the new policy people who are parents of U.S. citizens or >> legal residents will receive deportation deferrals and authorization to >> work legally if they have been in the U.S. for more than five years and >> pass background checks. >> >> On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 11:41:10 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >>> I think it's the deluge of immigrants, both legal and illegal, pouring >>> into Western Nations. >>> >>> I've often said of late: we, as a Nation could survive the onslaught of >>> massive (Legal & Illegal) immigration, maybe for another decade. We, as a >>> Nation could most likely survive our massive debt for probably another >>> decade. We can't survive both the debt and the massive influx, and survive >>> for another decade. >>> >>> Something had to come to a head, and our "Cultures", both here and in >>> Western Europa, were due for a "Culture Change" and both Americans and even >>> their European socialist counterparts knew it. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Kamakazee <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> A few things; first and foremost, the internet. Organizing the >>>> protesting has never been more efficient or easy. >>>> >>>> Secondly, and related, most of us feel the need to take care of our >>>> "own" first. >>>> >>>> Lastly, "things" (socially, politically, economically) have gone to far >>>> to an extreme. >>>> >>>> On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 9:57:52 AM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote: >>>> >>>>> What does everyone think is the onus for the populist/ anti globalist >>>>> movements and why now? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>> >>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>> * It's active and moderated. 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