This is why one asks questions thanks perp

On Jan 29, 2017 9:39 PM, "'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> If you talk to people in the tech industry, they have been screaming about
> tech companies importing H1B visa foreigners to take jobs here in America
> for years.
>
> Now, we're seeing the same issue in healthcare. Ever notice how these
> massive health systems are gobbling up all the smaller (county) hospitals
> and merging with other mid-larger ones? And they're buying out all of the
> doctors' practices too? Well guess what? These hospitals - even though they
> make millions every year in profit - are categorized as non-profits. And
> they are exempt from the government caps on H1B visas. So they're filling
> their positions with them like crazy. The universities are doing the same.
>
> So yeah, the "legal" immigrants are very much a huge problem and one the
> government and media have kept hidden from the public for FAR too long. We
> have tens of millions of people in this country - some educated and some
> not - who can't find jobs. This shit needs to stop. The f*cking government
> has spent years encouraging students here to get STEM degrees only to tell
> them when they get one that there are no jobs b/c they've either been
> outsourced to India or they're hiring Indians and Chinese to do them here.
>
> On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 5:06:04 PM UTC-5, gtheist957 wrote:
>>
>> Legal immigrants aren't the problem to extent that the illegals are but
>> they are drawing attention to the legal immigrants. The percentage of sheer
>> numbers of citizens being displaced by out sourcing and illegal immigrants
>> far out weights legal immigration
>>
>> On Jan 29, 2017 3:57 PM, "plainolamerican" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I think it's the deluge of immigrants, both legal and illegal, pouring
>> into Western Nations.
>> ---
>>
>> The *Immigration Act of 1990* (Pub.L. 101–649
>> <http://legislink.org/us/pl-101-649>, 104 Stat.
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Statutes_at_Large> 4978
>> <http://legislink.org/us/stat-104-4978>, enacted November 29, 1990) was
>> signed into law by George H. W. Bush
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush> on November 29, 1990.
>> [1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-1> It
>> was first introduced by Senator Ted Kennedy
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kennedy> in 1989. It was a national
>> reform of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965>.
>> It increased total, overall immigration to allow 700,000 immigrants to come
>> to the U.S. per year for the fiscal years '92–'94, and 675,000 per year
>> after that.[2]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Fordham_Journal_Highlights-2>
>>  It
>> provided family based immigration visa, created five distinct employment
>> based visas, categorized by occupation, as well as the diversity visa
>> program which created a lottery to admit immigrants from "low admittance"
>> countries [3]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-US_immigration_legislation-3>
>>  or
>> countries where their citizenry was underrepresented in the U.S.
>>
>> Besides these immigrant visas there was also changes in nonimmigrant
>> visas like the H-1B visa <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-1B_visa> for
>> highly skilled workers. There were also cutbacks in the allotment of visas
>> available for extended relatives.[4]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Immigration_Act_of_1990_Blue_title-4>
>>  The Temporary protected status
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_protected_status> visa was also
>> created where Congress established a procedure by which the Attorney
>> General may provide TPS to immigrants in the United States who are
>> temporarily unable to safely return to their home country because of
>> ongoing armed conflict, an environmental disaster, or other extraordinary
>> and temporary condition. It specifically benefited citizens of El
>> Salvador <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Salvador>.[2]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Fordham_Journal_Highlights-2>
>>
>> Other aspects of the act include lifting the English testing process for
>> naturalization which was imposed in the Naturalization Act of 1906
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1906> [5]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Boundless-5>
>>  and
>> eliminating the exclusion of homosexuals under the medically unsound
>> classification of "sexual deviant" that was present in the passage of the
>> 1965 Act.[6]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Homosexual_liberation-6>
>>  George
>> H. W. Bush is quoted in saying "I am also pleased to note that this Act
>> facilitates immigration not just in numerical terms, but also in terms of
>> basic entry rights of those beyond our borders."[7]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-G_Bush-7> 
>> The
>> administration, therefore, saw the importance of this amendment in
>> extending a welcoming to those previously excluded nations/individuals.
>>
>> Contents  [hide]
>>
>>    - 1Family reunification
>>    
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#Family_reunification>
>>    - 2Job-based immigration
>>    
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#Job-based_immigration>
>>    - 3Diversity Immigrant Visas
>>    
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#Diversity_Immigrant_Visas>
>>    - 4Comments from the Bush Administration
>>    
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#Comments_from_the_Bush_Administration>
>>    - 5Non-immigrant visas
>>    
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#Non-immigrant_visas>
>>    - 6Significance
>>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#Significance>
>>    - 7References
>>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#References>
>>
>> Family reunification[edit
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Immigration_Act_of_1990&action=edit&section=1>
>> ]
>>
>> Family reunification remained a priority as it had been in the Immigration
>> and Nationality Act of 1965
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965>.
>> This act expanded the number of family-based immigration visas allotted per
>> year to 480,000 but to do this it also made the definition of family more
>> exclusive by limiting it to immediate family members.[4]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Immigration_Act_of_1990_Blue_title-4>
>> Job-based immigration[edit
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Immigration_Act_of_1990&action=edit&section=2>
>> ]
>>
>> Job-based immigration was divided amongst five occupational categories in
>> the 1990 Immigration act (in the 1965 act only two existed.[2]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Fordham_Journal_Highlights-2>
>>  The
>> act provided 140,000 visas per year for job based immigration.[4]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Immigration_Act_of_1990_Blue_title-4>
>>  These
>> categories were:
>>
>>    - EB-1 visa <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EB-1_visa> (for an alien
>>    of extraordinary ability
>>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_of_extraordinary_ability>)
>>    - EB-2 visa <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EB-2_visa>
>>    - EB-3 visa <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EB-3_visa>
>>    - EB-4 visa
>>    
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=EB-4_visa&action=edit&redlink=1>
>>    - EB-5 visa <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EB-5_visa>
>>
>> The EB 4 visa is a vague but has to do with religious workers who wish to
>> continue their career in the U.S. The reason for this distinct category is
>> because the other visas require employer contact and labor certification
>> through the U.S. Department of Labor
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Labor>, while
>> the religious worker visa applicant is not strictly limited to
>> employer-sponsored entry.[2]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Fordham_Journal_Highlights-2>
>>
>> In addition to having to be employer-sponsored, in most cases, the
>> foreigner had to be applying to work in an area of labor shortage in the
>> U.S. and if this was not the case, the employer had to bargain on their
>> behalf and proves that they had exhausted all other domestic recruiting
>> efforts.[2]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Fordham_Journal_Highlights-2>
>> Diversity Immigrant Visas[edit
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Immigration_Act_of_1990&action=edit&section=3>
>> ]
>>
>> Diversity Immigrant Visa
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity_Immigrant_Visa> was a new,
>> important facet of the amendment that had never been instituted in national
>> immigration policy before. "Starting in 1991, every year the Attorney
>> General <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Attorney_General>,
>> decides from information gathered over the most recent five year period the
>> regions or country that are considered High Admission or Low Admission
>> States"[8]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-8> from
>> this analysis citizens of certain nations are deemed eligible or ineligible
>> to apply for a diversity visa. "A High Admission region or country is one
>> that has had 50,000 immigrants or more acquire a permanent residency visa.
>> The High Admission regions are not given visas under this act in order to
>> promote diversity."[3]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-US_immigration_legislation-3>
>>  Starting
>> in fiscal year 1995, the cap of 55,000 visas were allotted as "diversity"
>> visas. Today it is more around 50,000. Changes have been made to the
>> diversity visa requirements almost every other year (if not more) since
>> 1990 to assess which countries qualify (see Diversity Immigrant Visa
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity_Immigrant_Visa>). In 1990 the
>> qualifying countries were as follows: Albania, Algeria, Argentina, Austria,
>> Belgium, Czech republic, Slovakia, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France
>> (including Guadeloupe and New Caledonia), Germany, Great Britain and
>> Northern Ireland (including Bermuda and Gibraltar), Hungary, Iceland,
>> Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania,
>> Luxembourg, Monaco, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, San Marino, Sweden,
>> Switzerland and Tunisia.[9]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Stanford-9> 
>> There
>> are a number of qualifications to obtaining this visa besides being from
>> one of the qualifying zones. You must:
>>
>>    - Have a high school diploma
>>    - Have 2 years work experience and 2 years job training
>>
>> In addition, the SOS keeps track of age, occupation, education, etc. of
>> all immigrants obtaining this visa. The selection of qualifying applicants
>> is random. Once you are approved and granted a visa, family unification
>> does extend to these visa holders. Children and spouses are eligible for
>> permanent residency. This policy, notably, positively effected displaced
>> Tibetans from 1991–1994 who were given 1,000 visas per year.[3]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-US_immigration_legislation-3>
>> Comments from the Bush Administration[edit
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Immigration_Act_of_1990&action=edit&section=4>
>> ]
>>
>> George Bush: "S. 358 accomplishes what this Administration sought from
>> the outset of the immigration reform process: a complementary blending of
>> our tradition of family reunification with increased immigration of skilled
>> individuals to meet our economic needs."
>>
>> "Today I am pleased to sign S. 358, the 'Immigration Act of 1990'—the
>> most comprehensive reform of our immigration laws in 66 years."
>>
>> "Immigration reform began in 1986 with an effort to close the "back door"
>> on illegal immigration through enactment of the 1986 Immigration Reform
>> and Control Act
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986> 
>> (IRCA).
>> Now, as we open the "front door" to increased legal immigration, I am
>> pleased that this Act also provides needed enforcement authority."
>>
>> "I am also pleased to note that this Act facilitates immigration not just
>> in numerical terms, but also in terms of basic entry rights of those beyond
>> our borders. S. 358 revises the politically related "exclusion grounds" for
>> the first time since their enactment in 1952."[7]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-G_Bush-7>
>> Non-immigrant visas[edit
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Immigration_Act_of_1990&action=edit&section=5>
>> ]
>>
>> Controversy over the immigration act of 1990 stemmed mostly from the
>> expansion of the green cards available for foreign laborers while limiting
>> the access to temporary visas such as the H-1B visa
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-1B_visa> for visiting scholars. A
>> bulletin released by the Stanford University News Service in Sept. 1991
>> claims that "Stanford, and other universities, will have to do more
>> paperwork to hire short-term visiting professors and researchers under the
>> H-1 visa program."[9]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Stanford-9>
>>
>> The bill also introduced a cap of 65,000 per year to H-1B and excluded
>> nurses, entertainers, athletes, and artists from qualifying.[2]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Fordham_Journal_Highlights-2>
>>  Another
>> short term visa is "D" category nonimmigrants who work "aboard sea or air
>> carriers or as longshore workers" there were more constraints added to
>> their ability to obtain visas as well.[2]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Fordham_Journal_Highlights-2>
>>
>> However, it also created new categories of nonimmigrant visas. The O and
>> P categories were for extraordinarily skilled foreigners in the realm of
>> entertainment, athletics, science, etc. Their admittance depended upon
>> "consultation with the appropriate unions," usually who are asking them to
>> the U.S. and their time allowed here depended on how long the
>> event/activity they were participating in lasted.[2]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Fordham_Journal_Highlights-2>
>> Significance[edit
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Immigration_Act_of_1990&action=edit&section=6>
>> ]
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chart_of_foreign_born_in_the_US_labor_force_1900_to_2007.png>
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chart_of_foreign_born_in_the_US_labor_force_1900_to_2007.png>
>> Foreign-born in US labor force 1900-2015
>>
>> After it became law, the United States would admit 700,000 new immigrants
>> annually, up from 500,000 before the bill's passage. The new system
>> continued to favor people with family members that already worked in the
>> United States, but added 50,000 "diversity visas" for countries from which
>> few were emigrating, as well as 40,000 permanent job-related workers and
>> 65,000 temporary worker visas.[10]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-10> 
>> Additional
>> provisions strengthened the U.S. Border Patrol
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Border_Patrol> and altered language
>> regarding disease restrictions in a way that permitted the Secretary of
>> Health and Human Services
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_Health_and_Human_Services> to
>> remove AIDS <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS> from the list of
>> illnesses making a prospective immigrant ineligible to enter the country.
>> [11]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Aids_restriction_lifted-11>
>>
>> Following the passage of this act, there were more immigrants admitted to
>> the U.S. in this decade than any prior decade in U.S. history with 10–11
>> million documented entries.[5]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Boundless-5>
>>
>> This act also led to the creation of the *Jordan Commission or the U.S.
>> Commission on Immigration Reform*. The Commission released 4 reports
>> covering every aspect of U.S. Immigration policy and evaluated its quality
>> and effectiveness, making recommendations based on their findings.[12]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Jordan_Commish-12>
>>
>> The report concluded with the following statement of principles:
>> "Properly-regulated immigration and immigrant policy serves the national
>> interest by ensuring the entry of those who will contribute most to our
>> society and helping lawful newcomers adjust to life in the United States.
>> It must give due consideration to shifting economic realities. A
>> well-regulated system sets priorities for admission; facilitates nuclear
>> family reunification; gives employers access to a global labor market while
>> protecting U.S. workers; helps to generate jobs and economic growth; and
>> fulfills our commitment to resettle refugees as one of several elements of
>> humanitarian protection of the persecuted."[12]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990#cite_note-Jordan_Commish-12>
>>
>>
>> 1948
>>
>> The Displaced Persons Act allows up to 200,000 refugees displaced by
>> World War II to enter the U.S.
>> 1950
>>
>> Internal Security Act allows the deportation of any immigrants who were
>> ever members of the Communist Party.
>> 1952
>>
>> Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (the McCarran-Walter Act)
>> consolidates earlier immigration legislation into one law and eliminates
>> race as a basis of exclusion. However, race continues to be a factor
>> because the quota system remains in place, except for immigrants from the
>> western hemisphere. Immigration from any country is capped at 1/6th of 1%
>> of the population of that nationality based on the 1920 census.
>> 1965
>>
>> The Immigration Act of 1965 gets rid of the nationality quotas, but
>> limits annual immigration from the eastern hemisphere to 170,000, with a
>> limit of 20,000 immigrants per country, and for the first time caps annual
>> immigration from the western hemisphere at 120,000, without the country
>> limit. In addition, a preference system is established for family members
>> of U.S. citizens.
>> 1966
>>
>> Cuban Adjustment Act allows Cubans to apply for permanent resident status
>> after residing in the U.S. for two years.
>> 1975
>>
>> At the end of the Vietnam War, the U.S. passes the Indochina Migration
>> and Refugee Assistance Act of 1975 that resettles about 200,000 Vietnamese
>> and Cambodian refugees in the U.S. and gives them a special parole status.
>> The program was extended to Laotians in 1976.
>> 1978
>>
>> The immigration caps outlined in the 1965 Immigration Act are replaced
>> with an overall annual limit of 290,000.
>> 1980
>>
>> The Refugee Act defines refugees as a person who flees his or her country
>> “on account of race, religion, nationality, or political opinion.” Refugees
>> are considered a different category than immigrants. The president and
>> Congress are granted the authority to establish an annual ceiling on the
>> number of refugees allowed into the U.S. The act also lowers the annual
>> limit of immigrants to 270,000, from 290,000.
>> 1986
>>
>> The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA) allows immigrants
>> who had entered the U.S. before Jan. 1, 1982, to apply for legal status but
>> required them to pay fines, fees, and back taxes. It also gives the same
>> rights to immigrants who worked in agricultural jobs for 90 days before May
>> 1982. About 3 million immigrants gained legal status through the law. The
>> act also requires employers to verify work status of all new hires and fine
>> those who hire undocumented workers.
>> 1990
>>
>> The Immigration Act of 1990 sets an annual ceiling of 700,000 immigrants
>> for three years, and 675,000 thereafter.
>> 1996
>>
>> The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act broadens
>> the definition of “aggravated felony” and increases the number of crimes
>> classified as such so immigrants could be deported for a wider range of
>> crimes. The law is applied retroactively. The act also increased the number
>> of Border Patrol agents and established an “expedited removal” procedure to
>> deport immigrants without a formal hearing.
>>
>> Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act sharply
>> cuts legal permanent residents’ eligibility for many public-assistance
>> benefits, including food stamps, Supplemental Security Income (SSI),
>> Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), and Medicaid.
>> 2005
>>
>> The REAL ID Act of 2005 requires states to verify a person’s immigration
>> status or citizenship before issuing licenses, expands restrictions on
>> refugees requesting asylum, and limits the habeas corpus rights of
>> immigrants.
>> 2006
>>
>> The REAL ID Act of 2005 requires states to verify a person’s immigration
>> status or citizenship before issuing licenses, expands restrictions on
>> refugees requesting asylum, and limits the habeas corpus rights of
>> immigrants.
>> 2014
>>
>> On Nov. 20, 2014, President Barack Obama announced he was taking
>> executive action to delay the deportation of some 5 million illegal
>> immigrants. Under the new policy people who are parents of U.S. citizens or
>> legal residents will receive deportation deferrals and authorization to
>> work legally if they have been in the U.S. for more than five years and
>> pass background checks.
>>
>> On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 11:41:10 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>
>>> I think it's the deluge of immigrants, both legal and illegal, pouring
>>> into Western Nations.
>>>
>>> I've often said of late:  we, as a Nation could survive the onslaught of
>>> massive (Legal & Illegal) immigration, maybe for another decade.  We, as a
>>> Nation could most likely survive our massive debt for probably another
>>> decade.  We can't survive both the debt and the massive influx, and survive
>>> for another decade.
>>>
>>> Something had to come to a head, and our "Cultures", both here and in
>>> Western Europa, were due for a "Culture Change" and both Americans and even
>>> their European socialist counterparts knew it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Kamakazee <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A few things; first and foremost, the internet.  Organizing the
>>>> protesting has never been more efficient or easy.
>>>>
>>>> Secondly, and related, most of us feel the need to take care of our
>>>> "own" first.
>>>>
>>>> Lastly, "things" (socially, politically, economically) have gone to far
>>>> to an extreme.
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 9:57:52 AM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What does everyone think is the onus for the populist/ anti globalist
>>>>> movements and why now?
>>>>
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