censorship is censorship no matter what you choose to call it.  and
this censorship doctrine will be fought and defeated.

On Nov 12, 2:30 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> do some research on the subject it was dismissed before it ever made
> it to the  supreme court .
>
> On Nov 12, 2:13 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > That would be for the Court to decide.
>
> > Not you.
>
> > On Nov 11, 11:12 pm, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > it hasn't been challenged because it is isn't unconstitutional !
>
> > > On Nov 11, 6:01 pm, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > could that be because this censorship doctrine has never been
> > > > challenged in court.  it will be
>
> > > > On Nov 11, 8:32 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > fish boy it has never been considered unconstitutional and that is the
> > > > > fact of the mater
>
> > > > > On Nov 11, 8:10 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > The Court warned that if the doctrine ever restrained speech, then 
> > > > > > its
> > > > > > constitutionality should be reconsidered.
>
> > > > > > However, in the case of Miami Herald Publishing Co. v. Tornillo, 418
> > > > > > U.S. 241 (1974), Chief Justice Warren Burger wrote (for a unanimous
> > > > > > court), "Government-enforced right of access inescapably dampens the
> > > > > > vigor and limits the variety of public debate." This decision 
> > > > > > differs
> > > > > > from Red Lion v. FCC in that it applies to a newspaper, where there 
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > no such technical limit on the number of possible newspapers.
>
> > > > > > In 1984, the Supreme Court ruled that Congress could not forbid
> > > > > > editorials by non-profit stations that received grants from the
> > > > > > Corporation for Public Broadcasting (FCC v. League of Women Voters 
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > California, 468 U.S. 364 (1984)). The Court's 5-4 majority decision 
> > > > > > by
> > > > > > William J. Brennan, Jr. stated that while many now considered that
> > > > > > expanding sources of communication had made the Fairness Doctrine's
> > > > > > limits unnecessary, "We are not prepared, however, to reconsider our
> > > > > > longstanding approach without some signal from Congress or the FCC
> > > > > > that technological developments have advanced so far that some
> > > > > > revision of the system of broadcast regulation may be
> > > > > > required." (footnote 11). After noting that the FCC was considering
> > > > > > repealing the Fairness Doctrine rules on editorials and personal
> > > > > > attacks out of fear that those rules might be "chilling speech", the
> > > > > > Court added
>
> > > > > > Of course, the Commission may, in the exercise of its discretion,
> > > > > > decide to modify or abandon these rules, and we express no view on 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > legality of either course. As we recognized in Red Lion, however, 
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > it to be shown by the Commission that the fairness doctrine "[has] 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > net effect or reducing rather than enhancing" speech, we would then 
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > forced to reconsider the constitutional basis of our decision in 
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > case. (footnote 12).[7]
>
> > > > > > On Nov 11, 12:09 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > i hate to break it to you but the fairness doctrine has never been
> > > > > > > ruled unconstitutional . next time do a little research !
>
> > > > > > > On Nov 10, 8:04 pm, KeithInTampa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Nov 9, 3:11 am, "mike [Chief Moonbat] 532"  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > please show how and where the fairness doctrine violated the
> > > > > > > > constitution !
>
> > > > > > > > ====
>
> > > > > > > > How about for starters, that little clause that states, 
> > > > > > > > "Congress
> > > > > > > > shall make no law....abridging the freedom of speech, or of the
> > > > > > > > press..."
>
> > > > > > > > I doubt if you have ever read the document, but assuming for a 
> > > > > > > > second
> > > > > > > > that I am incorrect, and you have read the document, it is 
> > > > > > > > clear from
> > > > > > > > a number of your postings that you don't understand the 
> > > > > > > > verbiage.  You
> > > > > > > > are not alone, Senator Charles Schumer has for years 
> > > > > > > > demonstrated that
> > > > > > > > he does not understand the Constitution of the United States, 
> > > > > > > > yet
> > > > > > > > Moonbats in New York continue to re-elect this Anti-American.
>
> > > > > > > > With regard to a new, revised Fairness Doctrine, I think the
> > > > > > > > socialists are biting off more than they can proverbially chew. 
> > > > > > > >  As I
> > > > > > > > understand it, this bill would apply to all forms of media, 
> > > > > > > > that are
> > > > > > > > open, public airwaves.  This would include ABC, NBC and CBS, so 
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > essence, it will mean the demise of their biased news 
> > > > > > > > broadcasts.  The
> > > > > > > > same goes for shows like The View, Boston Legal, well, damn near
> > > > > > > > everything that is produced in California would have to be 
> > > > > > > > afforded
> > > > > > > > equal time.
>
> > > > > > > > Excuse my language, but I can think of no better
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