>>> he constitution also guarantees freedom from religion. (in many 'languages >>> 'of and from' are the same word)
But not in the American Constitution... >>> Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or >>> prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, >>> or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to >>> petition the Government for a redress of grievances. The Constitution does not allow "prohibiting the free exercise thereof " which clearly means I can say "God Bless You" or "God Damn You" in the public Square without interference from you seeking to use governmental powers to restrict me... It is the French conception of "Religious Freedom" which provides for the restriction of Religious Speech through the power of ensuring Freedom FROM Religion... Until you understand this key point, your POV is fundamentally and fatally flawed... On Nov 12, 7:26 am, margareth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The constitution also guarantees freedom from religion. (in many > 'languages 'of and from' are the same word) In the eighteenth > century that was a big deal as most European nations had official > religions, as practiced by the monarch. In Spain, the only legal > religion was Catholicism. In the UK, the Test and Tolerance Act was > in effect until 1835, which made the Church of England the official > religion of the UK, It provided that only Anglicans could hold public > office, and only the Anglican clergy could baptise, and marry Britons. > Catholics were barred. > If you check the Constitution Act of 1794, which created the British > colonies of Upper and Lower Canada, Guy Carleton (Lord Dorchester) > believed that the lack of a gentry, and the lack of a state religion, > had lead to the sedition in the American colonies excluding Quebec. > For examples of how a state religion works, the Taliban had one > establised in Afghanistan in 2003. The Islamic Republic of Iran, is > also an example of a Theorcracy. Then of course there is the Kingdom > of Saudi Arabia where access to the countries resources is largely > restricted ot a single family. > The framers of the US Constitution did know what they were doing, at a > time when almost every American was a believer, and most were > Christian. > > On Nov 12, 7:04 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > it also says we need to separate religion and government > > > On Nov 12, 6:53 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > try reading the constitution just one time. you will find that peskt > > > 1st amendment that provides for the freedom of religion. all > > > religions. I realize libs, and nobama will try and rewrite the > > > constitution in their pagan image, but as of now it allows for freedom > > > of religion. > > > > On Nov 12, 5:05 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > So who defines ethical behavior these days? > > > > good question ! i don't believe we a religious cleric or evangelical > > > > fanatic setting governmental policy for the country . > > > > On Nov 12, 4:46 am, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > So who defines ethical behavior these days? Aristotle was a good > > > >ading the constitution just one time. > beginning- pre-Jesus. > > > > > > On Nov 12, 2:40 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Keep Religion Personal, Not Political > > > > > > --http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/Davidow/59 > > > > > > People really have to stop referring to this country as a Christian > > > > > > nation. The founders took great pains to avoid incorporating > > > > > > religious > > > > > > references into the Constitution, even going so far as to state > > > > > > plainly that no religious test should ever be considered a > > > > > > prerequisite for holding office. Somewhere along the line things > > > > > > have > > > > > > gone way off track, as conservative groups assume they have a right > > > > > > to > > > > > > define the country's core values and to dictate acceptable behavior > > > > > > for everyone else.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
