Ramakazee, Sure you can, primarily in their PERSONAL LETTERS to friends and associates. And i can find as many from other FF's that do not support religion, all depends on WHICH FF I dig up and at WHAT point in his life. Monuments? Tourists attractions lad. NOT official documents stating federal Govt. policy. You understand that a Treaty has to be ratified by Congress, right? Is is beyond you to understand that a man might have a personal opinion that is quite different from an opinion he might hold as a public official when his/her decisions might very well impact on the entire country? Is this too difficult for you to understand?
On Nov 12, 2:16 pm, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For every "Treaty of Tripoli" snippet you dig up (and I suspect there > aren't many) I can pull up 10 snippets directly related to the faith/ > belief/religions the found fathers expressed in other writings. And > produce 10 pictures of monuments in DC referring to each. > > PS. Of course the Establishment Clause is intended to prevent the > establishment, by the govt, of any state sponsored religion. And of > course one is free to chose no religion, but it's not specifically > stated in the USC, that was my point. > > On Nov 12, 1:39 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Ramakazee, > > > Please tell me you're not this dense. > > The constituion specifically forbids the establishment of ANY state > > religion. Look it up. > > Now, if there IS no officially sanctioned religion that means you can > > never be "punished" for not following the "approved" religion as no > > such thing exists. That, of course means you are not required to > > practice ANY religion. The end result or effect is to make one "free" > > from religion is one so chooses. > > Regarding a specific religion such as Christianity the U.S. Govt. made > > a clear statement in the Treaty of Tripoli signed and ratified in 1797 > > "as the Government of the United States is NOT, in any sense founded > > on the Christian religion". John Adams was president at the time, most > > of our "Founding Fathers" were still living. Just Google "treaty of > > Tripoli" if you doubt my word and read the damn thing. > > > That enough help for you? Need more? > > > On Nov 12, 11:56 am, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Sorta, but where is that found? In the freedom of expression clause? > > > Maybe the establishment clause? > > > > Help a guy out here. > > > > On Nov 12, 9:14 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > mark, > > > > > It guarantee freedom FROM religion as much as it guarantees freedom to > > > > practice a given religion of choice. Anyone try to stop you from > > > > practicing your religion lately? > > > > > On Nov 12, 5:53 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > try reading the constitution just one time. you will find that peskt > > > > > 1st amendment that provides for the freedom of religion. all > > > > > religions. I realize libs, and nobama will try and rewrite the > > > > > constitution in their pagan image, but as of now it allows for freedom > > > > > of religion. > > > > > > On Nov 12, 5:05 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > So who defines ethical behavior these days? > > > > > > good question ! i don't believe we a religious cleric or > > > > > > evangelical > > > > > > fanatic setting governmental policy for the country . > > > > > > On Nov 12, 4:46 am, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > So who defines ethical behavior these days? Aristotle was a good > > > > > >ading the constitution just one time. > beginning- pre-Jesus. > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 2:40 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Keep Religion Personal, Not Political > > > > > > > > --http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/Davidow/59 > > > > > > > > People really have to stop referring to this country as a > > > > > > > > Christian > > > > > > > > nation. The founders took great pains to avoid incorporating > > > > > > > > religious > > > > > > > > references into the Constitution, even going so far as to state > > > > > > > > plainly that no religious test should ever be considered a > > > > > > > > prerequisite for holding office. Somewhere along the line > > > > > > > > things have > > > > > > > > gone way off track, as conservative groups assume they have a > > > > > > > > right to > > > > > > > > define the country's core values and to dictate acceptable > > > > > > > > behavior > > > > > > > > for everyone else.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
