gaar, I mentioned it in the post I quoted. Nothing requires me to post a given comment when, where and how you want me to. Fucking moron.
On Nov 12, 7:39 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Understood... > > And I was making the point that these "Displays" and what they say do > in FACT "Represent" U.S. Policy, just by being there. > > THAT is where YOU failed to mention the Freedom OF Religion, given in > our First Amendment, that I am pointing out... > > Try to keep up, Idiot. > > On Nov 12, 5:34 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Gaar, > > > You really are the total OCD hard head. > > I was responding to your statement that I neglected to mention that > > our Constituion is how the people get their right to freely express > > their religion. And i just showed where you were wrong. > > Call it a day Gaar, your getting silly. > > > On Nov 12, 7:22 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hmmmm... > > > > You just admitted that some of the displays that YOU say do not > > > profess our "Policy" do in fact profess our Policy. > > > > You are aware of that, right? > > > > I was pointing out that YOU said such things were NOT on display, as > > > you just admitted that they are. > > > > Imagine that. > > > > On Nov 12, 5:18 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Gaar, > > > > > Hollywood post to mark Nov.12th time 9;14am > > > > > And i quote myself "It guarantees freedom from religion as much as it > > > > guarantees freedom to practice a given religion of choice." End quote. > > > > > Had enough hard head? > > > > > On Nov 12, 6:41 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > News to me? > > > > > > I just thought I would point it out, since you neglected to mention > > > > > it. > > > > > > On Nov 12, 4:32 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Gaar, > > > > > > > No shit Sherlock. Or not practice religion. This is fucking news to > > > > > > you or something? What the fuck do you think I've been talking > > > > > > about? > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 5:54 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > The First Amendment is also how People get the Right to Freely > > > > > > > express > > > > > > > their Religion... > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 3:49 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Gaar, > > > > > > > > > Too late to save you boy, he's left the field. > > > > > > > > What you are talking about lad is a official document, you know > > > > > > > > like a > > > > > > > > TREATY, that is ON display. And that document dosen't say a > > > > > > > > fucking > > > > > > > > thing about religion other than that this country will NOT have > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > official one. Yep, I checked, right there in the First > > > > > > > > Ammendment. > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 4:02 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > One of those "diplays" is of the U.S. Constitution... > > > > > > > > > > As many others just quote from it. > > > > > > > > > > Which isn't "U.S. Policy", it should be the Fucking Law of > > > > > > > > > the Land. > > > > > > > > > > Your ignorance on the matter notwithstanding. > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 1:59 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Ramakazee, > > > > > > > > > > > Explain how my comparison of private opinions differ from > > > > > > > > > > public > > > > > > > > > > opinions expressed in the capacity as a national office > > > > > > > > > > holder is > > > > > > > > > > nonsensical. > > > > > > > > > > > Never been to D.C. Seen pictures, documantaries and movies > > > > > > > > > > of tourists > > > > > > > > > > standing in front of them getting their pictures taken. > > > > > > > > > > Symbolism for > > > > > > > > > > the masses, not official statements of U.S policy lad. > > > > > > > > > > > Don't run away, try harder. Your rolling over and giving up > > > > > > > > > > like the > > > > > > > > > > Ram's defensive line. LMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 3:44 pm, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It's only difficult because you argue a nonsensical > > > > > > > > > > > position. > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you been to DC? "tourist attractions"???. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you're referring to the Smithsonian's exhibit on > > > > > > > > > > > Uranus. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 3:39 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramakazee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure you can, primarily in their PERSONAL LETTERS to > > > > > > > > > > > > friends and > > > > > > > > > > > > associates. And i can find as many from other FF's that > > > > > > > > > > > > do not support > > > > > > > > > > > > religion, all depends on WHICH FF I dig up and at WHAT > > > > > > > > > > > > point in his > > > > > > > > > > > > life. > > > > > > > > > > > > Monuments? Tourists attractions lad. NOT official > > > > > > > > > > > > documents stating > > > > > > > > > > > > federal Govt. policy. You understand that a Treaty has > > > > > > > > > > > > to be ratified > > > > > > > > > > > > by Congress, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > Is is beyond you to understand that a man might have a > > > > > > > > > > > > personal > > > > > > > > > > > > opinion that is quite different from an opinion he > > > > > > > > > > > > might hold as a > > > > > > > > > > > > public official when his/her decisions might very well > > > > > > > > > > > > impact on the > > > > > > > > > > > > entire country? Is this too difficult for you to > > > > > > > > > > > > understand? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 2:16 pm, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For every "Treaty of Tripoli" snippet you dig up (and > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect there > > > > > > > > > > > > > aren't many) I can pull up 10 snippets directly > > > > > > > > > > > > > related to the faith/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > belief/religions the found fathers expressed in other > > > > > > > > > > > > > writings. And > > > > > > > > > > > > > produce 10 pictures of monuments in DC referring to > > > > > > > > > > > > > each. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS. Of course the Establishment Clause is intended > > > > > > > > > > > > > to prevent the > > > > > > > > > > > > > establishment, by the govt, of any state sponsored > > > > > > > > > > > > > religion. And of > > > > > > > > > > > > > course one is free to chose no religion, but it's not > > > > > > > > > > > > > specifically > > > > > > > > > > > > > stated in the USC, that was my point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 1:39 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramakazee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please tell me you're not this dense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The constituion specifically forbids the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > establishment of ANY state > > > > > > > > > > > > > > religion. Look it up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, if there IS no officially sanctioned religion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that means you can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never be "punished" for not following the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "approved" religion as no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > such thing exists. That, of course means you are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not required to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > practice ANY religion. The end result or effect is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to make one "free" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from religion is one so chooses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding a specific religion such as Christianity > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the U.S. Govt. made > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a clear statement in the Treaty of Tripoli signed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and ratified in 1797 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "as the Government of the United States is NOT, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any sense founded > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the Christian religion". John Adams was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > president at the time, most > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of our "Founding Fathers" were still living. Just > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Google "treaty of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tripoli" if you doubt my word and read the damn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That enough help for you? Need more? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 11:56 am, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorta, but where is that found? In the freedom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of expression clause? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe the establishment clause? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help a guy out here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 9:14 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mark, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It guarantee freedom FROM religion as much as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it guarantees freedom to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > practice a given religion of choice. Anyone try > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to stop you from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > practicing your religion lately? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 5:53 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try reading the constitution just one time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will find that peskt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st amendment that provides for the freedom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of religion. all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > religions. I realize libs, and nobama will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try and rewrite the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constitution in their pagan image, but as of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now it allows for freedom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of religion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 5:05 am, "mike [move on] 532" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So who defines ethical behavior these days? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good question ! i don't believe we a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > religious cleric or evangelical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fanatic setting governmental policy for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > country . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 4:46 am, rigsy03 <[EMAIL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So who defines ethical behavior these > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > days? Aristotle was a good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ading the constitution just one time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >beginning- pre-Jesus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 2:40 am, "mike [move on] 532" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep Religion Personal, Not Political > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/Davidow/59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People really have to stop referring to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this country as a Christian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nation. The founders took great pains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to avoid incorporating religious > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > references into the Constitution, even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > going so far as to state > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plainly that no religious test should > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ever be considered a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prerequisite for holding office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Somewhere along the line things have > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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