Gaar, You really are the total OCD hard head. I was responding to your statement that I neglected to mention that our Constituion is how the people get their right to freely express their religion. And i just showed where you were wrong. Call it a day Gaar, your getting silly.
On Nov 12, 7:22 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmmmm... > > You just admitted that some of the displays that YOU say do not > profess our "Policy" do in fact profess our Policy. > > You are aware of that, right? > > I was pointing out that YOU said such things were NOT on display, as > you just admitted that they are. > > Imagine that. > > On Nov 12, 5:18 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Gaar, > > > Hollywood post to mark Nov.12th time 9;14am > > > And i quote myself "It guarantees freedom from religion as much as it > > guarantees freedom to practice a given religion of choice." End quote. > > > Had enough hard head? > > > On Nov 12, 6:41 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > News to me? > > > > I just thought I would point it out, since you neglected to mention > > > it. > > > > On Nov 12, 4:32 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Gaar, > > > > > No shit Sherlock. Or not practice religion. This is fucking news to > > > > you or something? What the fuck do you think I've been talking about? > > > > > On Nov 12, 5:54 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > The First Amendment is also how People get the Right to Freely express > > > > > their Religion... > > > > > > On Nov 12, 3:49 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Gaar, > > > > > > > Too late to save you boy, he's left the field. > > > > > > What you are talking about lad is a official document, you know > > > > > > like a > > > > > > TREATY, that is ON display. And that document dosen't say a fucking > > > > > > thing about religion other than that this country will NOT have an > > > > > > official one. Yep, I checked, right there in the First Ammendment. > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 4:02 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > One of those "diplays" is of the U.S. Constitution... > > > > > > > > As many others just quote from it. > > > > > > > > Which isn't "U.S. Policy", it should be the Fucking Law of the > > > > > > > Land. > > > > > > > > Your ignorance on the matter notwithstanding. > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 1:59 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ramakazee, > > > > > > > > > Explain how my comparison of private opinions differ from public > > > > > > > > opinions expressed in the capacity as a national office holder > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > nonsensical. > > > > > > > > > Never been to D.C. Seen pictures, documantaries and movies of > > > > > > > > tourists > > > > > > > > standing in front of them getting their pictures taken. > > > > > > > > Symbolism for > > > > > > > > the masses, not official statements of U.S policy lad. > > > > > > > > > Don't run away, try harder. Your rolling over and giving up > > > > > > > > like the > > > > > > > > Ram's defensive line. LMAO! > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 3:44 pm, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It's only difficult because you argue a nonsensical position. > > > > > > > > > > Have you been to DC? "tourist attractions"???. > > > > > > > > > > I think you're referring to the Smithsonian's exhibit on > > > > > > > > > Uranus. > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 3:39 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Ramakazee, > > > > > > > > > > > Sure you can, primarily in their PERSONAL LETTERS to > > > > > > > > > > friends and > > > > > > > > > > associates. And i can find as many from other FF's that do > > > > > > > > > > not support > > > > > > > > > > religion, all depends on WHICH FF I dig up and at WHAT > > > > > > > > > > point in his > > > > > > > > > > life. > > > > > > > > > > Monuments? Tourists attractions lad. NOT official documents > > > > > > > > > > stating > > > > > > > > > > federal Govt. policy. You understand that a Treaty has to > > > > > > > > > > be ratified > > > > > > > > > > by Congress, right? > > > > > > > > > > Is is beyond you to understand that a man might have a > > > > > > > > > > personal > > > > > > > > > > opinion that is quite different from an opinion he might > > > > > > > > > > hold as a > > > > > > > > > > public official when his/her decisions might very well > > > > > > > > > > impact on the > > > > > > > > > > entire country? Is this too difficult for you to understand? > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 2:16 pm, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > For every "Treaty of Tripoli" snippet you dig up (and I > > > > > > > > > > > suspect there > > > > > > > > > > > aren't many) I can pull up 10 snippets directly related > > > > > > > > > > > to the faith/ > > > > > > > > > > > belief/religions the found fathers expressed in other > > > > > > > > > > > writings. And > > > > > > > > > > > produce 10 pictures of monuments in DC referring to each. > > > > > > > > > > > > PS. Of course the Establishment Clause is intended to > > > > > > > > > > > prevent the > > > > > > > > > > > establishment, by the govt, of any state sponsored > > > > > > > > > > > religion. And of > > > > > > > > > > > course one is free to chose no religion, but it's not > > > > > > > > > > > specifically > > > > > > > > > > > stated in the USC, that was my point. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 1:39 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramakazee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please tell me you're not this dense. > > > > > > > > > > > > The constituion specifically forbids the establishment > > > > > > > > > > > > of ANY state > > > > > > > > > > > > religion. Look it up. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, if there IS no officially sanctioned religion that > > > > > > > > > > > > means you can > > > > > > > > > > > > never be "punished" for not following the "approved" > > > > > > > > > > > > religion as no > > > > > > > > > > > > such thing exists. That, of course means you are not > > > > > > > > > > > > required to > > > > > > > > > > > > practice ANY religion. The end result or effect is to > > > > > > > > > > > > make one "free" > > > > > > > > > > > > from religion is one so chooses. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding a specific religion such as Christianity the > > > > > > > > > > > > U.S. Govt. made > > > > > > > > > > > > a clear statement in the Treaty of Tripoli signed and > > > > > > > > > > > > ratified in 1797 > > > > > > > > > > > > "as the Government of the United States is NOT, in any > > > > > > > > > > > > sense founded > > > > > > > > > > > > on the Christian religion". John Adams was president at > > > > > > > > > > > > the time, most > > > > > > > > > > > > of our "Founding Fathers" were still living. Just > > > > > > > > > > > > Google "treaty of > > > > > > > > > > > > Tripoli" if you doubt my word and read the damn thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > That enough help for you? Need more? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 11:56 am, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorta, but where is that found? In the freedom of > > > > > > > > > > > > > expression clause? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe the establishment clause? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help a guy out here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 9:14 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mark, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It guarantee freedom FROM religion as much as it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > guarantees freedom to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > practice a given religion of choice. Anyone try to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stop you from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > practicing your religion lately? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 5:53 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try reading the constitution just one time. you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will find that peskt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st amendment that provides for the freedom of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > religion. all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > religions. I realize libs, and nobama will try > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and rewrite the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constitution in their pagan image, but as of now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it allows for freedom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of religion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 5:05 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So who defines ethical behavior these days? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good question ! i don't believe we a religious > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cleric or evangelical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fanatic setting governmental policy for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > country . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 4:46 am, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So who defines ethical behavior these days? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aristotle was a good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ading the constitution just one time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >beginning- pre-Jesus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 2:40 am, "mike [move on] 532" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep Religion Personal, Not Political > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/Davidow/59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People really have to stop referring to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this country as a Christian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nation. The founders took great pains to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > avoid incorporating religious > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > references into the Constitution, even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > going so far as to state > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plainly that no religious test should ever > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be considered a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prerequisite for holding office. Somewhere > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > along the line things have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gone way off track, as conservative groups > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assume they have a right to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > define the country's core values and to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dictate acceptable behavior > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for everyone else.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
