gaar, Oh i didn't realize that I was ONLY supposed to mention it exactly WHEN, WHERE and in the exact context that YOU wanted me to.
Please try to find it in your large and tender heart to forgive my transgression Lord High Judge. It's your tree and I'm just a squirrel trying to get a little nut. Fuck you. On Nov 12, 7:39 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Understood... > > And I was making the point that these "Displays" and what they say do > in FACT "Represent" U.S. Policy, just by being there. > > THAT is where YOU failed to mention the Freedom OF Religion, given in > our First Amendment, that I am pointing out... > > Try to keep up, Idiot. > > On Nov 12, 5:34 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Gaar, > > > You really are the total OCD hard head. > > I was responding to your statement that I neglected to mention that > > our Constituion is how the people get their right to freely express > > their religion. And i just showed where you were wrong. > > Call it a day Gaar, your getting silly. > > > On Nov 12, 7:22 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hmmmm... > > > > You just admitted that some of the displays that YOU say do not > > > profess our "Policy" do in fact profess our Policy. > > > > You are aware of that, right? > > > > I was pointing out that YOU said such things were NOT on display, as > > > you just admitted that they are. > > > > Imagine that. > > > > On Nov 12, 5:18 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Gaar, > > > > > Hollywood post to mark Nov.12th time 9;14am > > > > > And i quote myself "It guarantees freedom from religion as much as it > > > > guarantees freedom to practice a given religion of choice." End quote. > > > > > Had enough hard head? > > > > > On Nov 12, 6:41 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > News to me? > > > > > > I just thought I would point it out, since you neglected to mention > > > > > it. > > > > > > On Nov 12, 4:32 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Gaar, > > > > > > > No shit Sherlock. Or not practice religion. This is fucking news to > > > > > > you or something? What the fuck do you think I've been talking > > > > > > about? > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 5:54 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > The First Amendment is also how People get the Right to Freely > > > > > > > express > > > > > > > their Religion... > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 3:49 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Gaar, > > > > > > > > > Too late to save you boy, he's left the field. > > > > > > > > What you are talking about lad is a official document, you know > > > > > > > > like a > > > > > > > > TREATY, that is ON display. And that document dosen't say a > > > > > > > > fucking > > > > > > > > thing about religion other than that this country will NOT have > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > official one. Yep, I checked, right there in the First > > > > > > > > Ammendment. > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 4:02 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > One of those "diplays" is of the U.S. Constitution... > > > > > > > > > > As many others just quote from it. > > > > > > > > > > Which isn't "U.S. Policy", it should be the Fucking Law of > > > > > > > > > the Land. > > > > > > > > > > Your ignorance on the matter notwithstanding. > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 1:59 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Ramakazee, > > > > > > > > > > > Explain how my comparison of private opinions differ from > > > > > > > > > > public > > > > > > > > > > opinions expressed in the capacity as a national office > > > > > > > > > > holder is > > > > > > > > > > nonsensical. > > > > > > > > > > > Never been to D.C. Seen pictures, documantaries and movies > > > > > > > > > > of tourists > > > > > > > > > > standing in front of them getting their pictures taken. > > > > > > > > > > Symbolism for > > > > > > > > > > the masses, not official statements of U.S policy lad. > > > > > > > > > > > Don't run away, try harder. Your rolling over and giving up > > > > > > > > > > like the > > > > > > > > > > Ram's defensive line. LMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 3:44 pm, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It's only difficult because you argue a nonsensical > > > > > > > > > > > position. > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you been to DC? "tourist attractions"???. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you're referring to the Smithsonian's exhibit on > > > > > > > > > > > Uranus. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 3:39 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramakazee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure you can, primarily in their PERSONAL LETTERS to > > > > > > > > > > > > friends and > > > > > > > > > > > > associates. And i can find as many from other FF's that > > > > > > > > > > > > do not support > > > > > > > > > > > > religion, all depends on WHICH FF I dig up and at WHAT > > > > > > > > > > > > point in his > > > > > > > > > > > > life. > > > > > > > > > > > > Monuments? Tourists attractions lad. NOT official > > > > > > > > > > > > documents stating > > > > > > > > > > > > federal Govt. policy. You understand that a Treaty has > > > > > > > > > > > > to be ratified > > > > > > > > > > > > by Congress, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > Is is beyond you to understand that a man might have a > > > > > > > > > > > > personal > > > > > > > > > > > > opinion that is quite different from an opinion he > > > > > > > > > > > > might hold as a > > > > > > > > > > > > public official when his/her decisions might very well > > > > > > > > > > > > impact on the > > > > > > > > > > > > entire country? Is this too difficult for you to > > > > > > > > > > > > understand? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 2:16 pm, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For every "Treaty of Tripoli" snippet you dig up (and > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect there > > > > > > > > > > > > > aren't many) I can pull up 10 snippets directly > > > > > > > > > > > > > related to the faith/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > belief/religions the found fathers expressed in other > > > > > > > > > > > > > writings. And > > > > > > > > > > > > > produce 10 pictures of monuments in DC referring to > > > > > > > > > > > > > each. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS. Of course the Establishment Clause is intended > > > > > > > > > > > > > to prevent the > > > > > > > > > > > > > establishment, by the govt, of any state sponsored > > > > > > > > > > > > > religion. And of > > > > > > > > > > > > > course one is free to chose no religion, but it's not > > > > > > > > > > > > > specifically > > > > > > > > > > > > > stated in the USC, that was my point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 1:39 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramakazee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please tell me you're not this dense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The constituion specifically forbids the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > establishment of ANY state > > > > > > > > > > > > > > religion. Look it up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, if there IS no officially sanctioned religion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that means you can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never be "punished" for not following the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "approved" religion as no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > such thing exists. That, of course means you are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not required to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > practice ANY religion. The end result or effect is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to make one "free" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from religion is one so chooses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding a specific religion such as Christianity > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the U.S. Govt. made > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a clear statement in the Treaty of Tripoli signed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and ratified in 1797 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "as the Government of the United States is NOT, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any sense founded > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the Christian religion". John Adams was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > president at the time, most > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of our "Founding Fathers" were still living. Just > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Google "treaty of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tripoli" if you doubt my word and read the damn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That enough help for you? Need more? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 11:56 am, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorta, but where is that found? In the freedom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of expression clause? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe the establishment clause? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help a guy out here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 9:14 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mark, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It guarantee freedom FROM religion as much as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it guarantees freedom to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > practice a given religion of choice. Anyone try > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to stop you from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > practicing your religion lately? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 5:53 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try reading the constitution just one time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will find that peskt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st amendment that provides for the freedom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of religion. all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > religions. I realize libs, and nobama will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try and rewrite the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constitution in their pagan image, but as of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now it allows for freedom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of religion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 5:05 am, "mike [move on] 532" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So who defines ethical behavior these days? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good question ! i don't believe we a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > religious cleric or evangelical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fanatic setting governmental policy for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > country . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 4:46 am, rigsy03 <[EMAIL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So who defines ethical behavior these > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > days? Aristotle was a good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ading the constitution just one time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >beginning- pre-Jesus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 12, 2:40 am, "mike [move on] 532" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep Religion Personal, Not Political > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/Davidow/59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People really have to stop referring to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this country as a Christian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nation. The founders took great pains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to avoid incorporating religious > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > references into the Constitution, even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > going so far as to state > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plainly that no religious test should > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ever be considered a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prerequisite for holding office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Somewhere along the line things have > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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