if the auto industry fails it will trigger another great depression . On Nov 16, 7:07 am, margareth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very few vehicles are still manufactured here. Far more are assembled > in regional plants, whether they are Hondas or Pontiacs. But many of > the parts are manufactured elsewhere, if you doubt me just take a peak > under the hood of the American made car. The big three have been > 'outsourcing for years now. There is also a varable pay skill, that is > proportional to the age of the worker. New workers (if there still are > any) are paid on a very different basis, and much less thatn their > older brother or sister. Mosts of the vehicles on the road these days > were built here, whether they be Toyotas, or Chrislers. The auto > companies command such a large share of the North American economy > that if the manufactures are allowed to declare bankruptcy, the fall > out would have world wide implications. > Under CAFTA, and NAFTA, cars are considered North American if at least > 50% of the parts were manufactured on the continent. I became aware of > that in 93, when I purchased a new Civic. The radio would put the > percentage over the limit. (It was built in Aliston Ontario.) > > On Nov 16, 4:31 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > now that sounds like an excellent idea to me but let add the oil > > industry to the list of companies that should nationalized . > > > On Nov 16, 12:35 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Gaar, > > > > You mean there are STILL a few high paying manufacturing jobs that > > > have not ALREADY been shipped overseas? i thoght you said it was our > > > high corporate taxes that were "forcing" corporations to go offshore? > > > > Here's an idea: Nationalized and universal health care coverage. Think > > > of the savings to the poor auto companies if they did not have to > > > carry the burden of health care insurance for their employess while > > > active AND retired as many of them are able to retire prior to being > > > eligle for social security. > > > > Another idea: Increase, or institute ,tariffs on cars built outside of > > > this country, be they Toyotas or Fords. Give ALL auto companies an > > > incentive to manufacture cars here if they want to sell them here. > > > > On Nov 15, 10:32 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > And yes, Unions have been the demise of our Industrial base, by > > > > pricing our Workers out of about every Industrial Market there is. > > > > > Not sure what YOU don't understand about that? > > > > > The PROOF, as they say, is in the pudding. > > > > > Care to compare the Foreign Automakers and what THEY are PRODUCING > > > > RIGHT HERE in the U.S., WITHOUT Union Labor? > > > > > Why do you suppose Obama wants to make the changes to Union Voting > > > > that he is? > > > > > And you wonder why I have such Grave concerns for the future of this > > > > Nation? > > > > > Obama is about to send every high paying Job overseas, that hasn't > > > > already left. He is doing NOTHING to encourage Investment here in the > > > > U.S., absolutely NOTHING!!! > > > > > You Idiots are going to reap as you have and are sowing, believe me, > > > > it isn't going to be pretty. > > > > > On Nov 15, 8:20 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Gaar, > > > > > > But, but, YOU told me such things are not REALLY bail-out or > > > > > "corporate welfare", but are more like "loans". Hell, even investments > > > > > which will eventually give the poor taxpayers a good return. Just like > > > > > "similar ones" in the past. Don't you remember? > > > > > GASP!! You didn't, shall we say, "lie" or spin facts to me did you? > > > > > > Oh wait, NOW I see. None of the investment bankers and financial > > > > > instituions have unionized employes, do they? Auto compamies DO. > > > > > Never mind, I understand your "reasoning" now. > > > > > > On Nov 15, 9:44 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > No Bailout for the Auto makers. > > > > > > > They have ALREADY been given relief, prior to this Financial > > > > > > meltdown. > > > > > > > If they are going to fail, let them fail. > > > > > > > This way, we can get rid of these Union Jobs that are causing such a > > > > > > drag on our Auto Industry. > > > > > > > Let them file for Bankruptcy, as is the Capitalistic way.- Hide > > > > > > quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
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