>>> World opinion will not be against the American people or this country, but >>> against the Bush administration.
What total BS... If the issue was not Iraqi, our opponents would have made another issue... Why are they our opponents??? Our National interests clash... On Nov 20, 4:46 pm, VT Sean Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unlike you dumb ass I have a written history of being correct. > > This is from December 2003 > > Right now we are in Iraq for the duration, for better or worse. I > believe if the outcome should be negative, no WMDs or connection to > the 9/11 terrorists, World opinion will not be against the American > people or > this country, but against the Bush administration. > > The flip side would be a tremendous boost to the Administration. > Should irrefutable evidence of a connection between the 9/11 > terrorists and Saddam's active participation to aide, arm and > facilitate this > attack, Bush will win in a landslide. > > The finding of WMDs in and of itself would not be enough however to > justify the war, and the expenditure of men, money and resources if > no connection to bin-Laden is made. > > Far worst, if the United States should sustain an attack from al- > Quada, this could mean a substantial and irreconcilable error for > the administration, especially if no tie to bin-Laden, Saddam and WMDs > is > established. > > Other concerns are looming in the distance, Wall Street is > rebounding, but this may not translate to the economy. > > We are facing a number of factors that can stop the recovery from > happening. > > If the falling dollar continues unabated, confidence in investing in > American Markets will dissipate. Any returns Foreign Investors will > receive in the US Stock Markets or other monetary US investments will > be negated by the currency differential. Add to this the need to > finance our > growing National Debt by foreign investors and you begin to see a > huge > precipice just ahead. If the fall of the dollar is not curtailed soon, > the need to > raise rates and lower initial Bond price offerings will occur so that > foreigners will > be enticed to buy our Bonds.This increase of rates could put a quick > end > to this recovery. With no recovery, a lower tax base due to the recent > cuts, > the largest deficit spending in history, and unfunded or underfunded > liabilities such as Social Security and Medicare benefits for the > Baby Boomers > and you have the making for problems for the American people and the > consumer. > > In the past this was not a problem because the US economy was the > engine for the world. This is no longer the case. Jobs run the > engine > and we have been exporting jobs to the new rising engine in the > English > speaking countries in the Asian Hemisphere. In the pass we only > exported the > low paying manufacturing jobs, but now we export the higher earning > electronic > manufacturing, technical service and customer service jobs. > > Ultimately this will mean a lowering of the standard of living for > Americans in an effort to be competitive in the World job market. > > This will mean even less money for the Government in the form of > taxes. Also > the issue of tax collection for the large multinationals occurs. > Multinationals > can effectively move their domicile to a tax friendly country paying > a > majority of their taxes there and place business components through > out the world > as it becomes bottom line appropriate. > > This is just one Scenario. It need not occur. Speaking about it, > helps it not happen. > > There is a reason Gold is going > up.http://groups.google.com/group/OpenDebateForum/web/acceptance-the-gol... > > On Nov 20, 1:39 pm, Zebnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > let others who know what they are doing > > > You mean you cowardly, limp-wristed, fifth column, anti-American, > > adolescent lib/Dems? ROTFLMAO!!!! > > > On Nov 20, 4:27 pm, VT Sean Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The Iranians are just one more example of a missed opportunity > > > cause by the errant war of unprovoked aggression in Iraq. > > > > Yet you myopic ignorant Bush Republicans can't see the damage > > > you caused with your 'enlightened' policies. > > > > You had your chance, you FUCKED EVERYTHING UP, > > > now shut the fuck up and let others who know what they are > > > doing fixed the huge fucking mess you guys created! > > > > On Nov 20, 1:19 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > an Iraqi-American alliance because a majority of Iraqi perfer us as > > > > allies to countries like Saudi Arabia, Syria, or Iran... > > > > >http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/sadr-takes-aim-at-new-us-iraq-agreement/2/ > > > > > >>> I think the fact that prominent Sadrist leader Hazim Aaraji said > > > > >>> they were shocked by the developments reflects the complexity of > > > > >>> Iran’s manipulation of Sadr and the SIIC by letting the latter > > > > >>> agree on the deal while encouraging the former to oppose it — a > > > > >>> miniature carrot-and-stick game. I doubt the Iranians are happy > > > > >>> with the agreement per se; they are only happy with their > > > > >>> self-proclaimed ability to play Iraqi Shiite parties against one > > > > >>> another. I would even say that Iranians are doing exactly what > > > > >>> diplomacy textbooks would instruct regarding presenting one’s own > > > > >>> chips. What they didn’t understand of the textbooks, though, is > > > > >>> that they also need to know how much the person across the table is > > > > >>> interested in those chips. In fact, Iran is overlooking the fact > > > > >>> that across the table sit more than America alone, when it comes to > > > > >>> the nuclear question. > > > > > What the Iranians don’t understand is that their carrots and sticks > > > > are not big enough to change world opinion on their nuclear ambitions. > > > > There is a multitude of states that couldn’t care less about American > > > > success in Iraq but to whom Iran’s going nuclear is a red line — the > > > > nuclear issue is not a U.S.-Iran duel on Iraqi soil. > > > > > Anyway, I think the Iraqi decision to accept the deal was a result of > > > > the tough stance of the American administration. This actually > > > > surprised Iraqis who were used to a softer American tone. Moreover, > > > > many parties in Baghdad have matured to deal pragmatically and > > > > realistically with the issue of a strategic partnership with America — > > > > America is the best ally we could possibly have. Even though Iran > > > > holds a few strings, most of the strings now are in more capable Iraqi > > > > hands backed by the mighty United States of America.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
