Zeb,

WHAT written history?
Who, other than you apparantly, gives a flying fuck what "Islamic
barbarians" have "declared" concerning our President-Elect? I don't
even give a shit what YOU "declare".
Fuck you, who are you to decide who is a traitor or not? It's just a
personal opinion of yours that does not mean jack-shit.


On Nov 22, 9:47 pm, Zebnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You have a written history of being an uninformed jackass. Seldom are
> there people outside a "cuckoos nest" who are so deranged as you.
> Already, the Islamic barbarians have declared Obama a "house nigger",
> yet brain dead assholes like you STILL can't see that it isn't GW that
> they hate, but our country and way of life. They are much like you,
> traitorous piece of shit.
>
> On Nov 20, 4:46 pm, VT Sean Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Unlike you dumb ass I have a written history of being correct.
>
> > This is from December 2003
>
> > Right now we are in Iraq for the duration, for better or  worse. I
> > believe if the outcome should be negative, no WMDs or connection to
> > the 9/11 terrorists, World opinion will not be against the American
> > people or
> > this country, but against the Bush administration.
>
> > The flip side would  be a tremendous boost to the Administration.
> > Should irrefutable evidence of a  connection between the 9/11
> > terrorists and Saddam's active participation to  aide, arm and
> > facilitate this
> > attack, Bush will win in a landslide.
>
> > The  finding of WMDs in and of itself would not be enough however to
> > justify the  war, and the expenditure of men, money and resources if
> > no connection to bin-Laden is made.
>
> > Far worst, if the United States should sustain an  attack from al-
> > Quada, this could mean a substantial and irreconcilable error  for
> > the administration, especially if no tie to bin-Laden, Saddam and WMDs
> > is
> > established.
>
> > Other concerns are looming in the distance, Wall Street is
> > rebounding, but this may not translate to the economy.
>
> > We are facing a  number of factors that can stop the recovery from
> > happening.
>
> > If the  falling dollar continues unabated, confidence in investing in
> > American Markets will dissipate. Any returns Foreign Investors will
> > receive in the US Stock Markets or other monetary US investments will
> > be negated by the currency differential. Add to this the need to
> > finance our
> > growing National Debt by foreign investors and you begin to see a
> > huge
> > precipice just ahead. If the fall of the dollar is not curtailed soon,
> > the need to
> > raise rates and lower initial Bond price offerings will occur so that
> > foreigners will
> > be enticed to buy our Bonds.This increase of rates could put a quick
> > end
> > to this recovery. With no recovery, a lower tax base due to the recent
> > cuts,
> > the largest deficit  spending in history, and unfunded or underfunded
> > liabilities such as Social  Security and Medicare benefits for the
> > Baby Boomers
> > and you have the making  for problems for the American people and the
> > consumer.
>
> > In the past this  was not a problem because the US economy was the
> > engine for the world. This is  no longer the case. Jobs run the
> > engine
> > and we have been exporting jobs to the  new rising engine in the
> > English
> > speaking countries in the Asian Hemisphere.  In the pass we only
> > exported the
> > low paying manufacturing jobs, but now we  export the higher earning
> > electronic
> > manufacturing, technical service and  customer service jobs.
>
> > Ultimately this will mean a lowering of the  standard of living for
> > Americans in an effort to be competitive in the World  job market.
>
> > This will mean even less money for the Government in the form of
> > taxes. Also
> > the issue of tax collection for the large multinationals occurs.
> > Multinationals
> > can effectively move their domicile to a tax friendly country  paying
> > a
> > majority of their taxes there and place business components through
> > out the world
> > as it becomes bottom line appropriate.
>
> > This is just one  Scenario. It need not occur. Speaking about it,
> > helps it not  happen.
>
> > There is a reason Gold is going 
> > up.http://groups.google.com/group/OpenDebateForum/web/acceptance-the-gol...
>
> > On Nov 20, 1:39 pm, Zebnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > let others who know what they are doing
>
> > > You mean you cowardly, limp-wristed, fifth column, anti-American,
> > > adolescent lib/Dems? ROTFLMAO!!!!
>
> > > On Nov 20, 4:27 pm, VT Sean Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > The Iranians are just one more example of a missed opportunity
> > > > cause by the errant war of unprovoked aggression in Iraq.
>
> > > > Yet you myopic ignorant Bush Republicans can't see the damage
> > > > you caused with your 'enlightened' policies.
>
> > > > You had your chance, you FUCKED EVERYTHING UP,
> > > > now shut the fuck up and let others who know what they are
> > > > doing fixed the huge fucking mess you guys created!
>
> > > > On Nov 20, 1:19 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > an Iraqi-American alliance because a majority of Iraqi perfer us as
> > > > > allies to countries like Saudi Arabia, Syria, or Iran...
>
> > > > >http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/sadr-takes-aim-at-new-us-iraq-agreement/2/
>
> > > > > >>> I think the fact that prominent Sadrist leader Hazim Aaraji said 
> > > > > >>> they were shocked by the developments reflects the complexity of 
> > > > > >>> Iran’s manipulation of Sadr and the SIIC by letting the latter 
> > > > > >>> agree on the deal while encouraging the former to oppose it — a 
> > > > > >>> miniature carrot-and-stick game. I doubt the Iranians are happy 
> > > > > >>> with the agreement per se; they are only happy with their 
> > > > > >>> self-proclaimed ability to play Iraqi Shiite parties against one 
> > > > > >>> another. I would even say that Iranians are doing exactly what 
> > > > > >>> diplomacy textbooks would instruct regarding presenting one’s own 
> > > > > >>> chips. What they didn’t understand of the textbooks, though, is 
> > > > > >>> that they also need to know how much the person across the table 
> > > > > >>> is interested in those chips. In fact, Iran is overlooking the 
> > > > > >>> fact that across the table sit more than America alone, when it 
> > > > > >>> comes to the nuclear question.
>
> > > > > What the Iranians don’t understand is that their carrots and sticks
> > > > > are not big enough to change world opinion on their nuclear ambitions.
> > > > > There is a multitude of states that couldn’t care less about American
> > > > > success in Iraq but to whom Iran’s going nuclear is a red line — the
> > > > > nuclear issue is not a U.S.-Iran duel on Iraqi soil.
>
> > > > > Anyway, I think the Iraqi decision to accept the deal was a result of
> > > > > the tough stance of the American administration. This actually
> > > > > surprised Iraqis who were used to a softer American tone. Moreover,
> > > > > many parties in Baghdad have matured to deal pragmatically and
> > > > > realistically with the issue of a strategic partnership with America —
> > > > > America is the best ally we could possibly have. Even though Iran
> > > > > holds a few strings, most of the strings now are in more capable Iraqi
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