This is from BEFORE THE FIRST SHOT WAS FIRED!

I wrote this in February 2003.....

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:02 PM
Subject: One Man's Humble Opinion


Preface, here are a series of email comments posted on the Internet in
regard to current political and global events.


It seems we have two types of law. One for domestic matters and one
for international matters. As a country we need congruence in how we
handle events of these types. The American people are use to one type
of justice. This justice is based on cause and effect, action and
reaction. The action the President wants to take is proactive. In a
country where you are innocent before you are proven guilty, there is
no connect.

VT

The offer of exile looks good on paper. For a dictator of a country
with enemies on all sides, he may see this as a death sentence. Listen
I was downtown September 11. I watched the planes hit the towers from
my conference room 2 blocks away. Viewing this act of terrorism from
this vantage point creates a desire for revenge. I just want to think
things through several moves ahead. I don't want to find this country
painted into a corner by a foreign policy or military action that
leaves us alone with no allies and a larger threat of terrorism than
before. This action could united the Arab world against us. Our
borders are too large to fence.

VT

War as a cavalier solution should not be taken lightly. We can conquer
Iraq quickly. That should not be a problem. We will kill Saddam. That
is a given. Now the dangerous part.

We will have an occupying army in a US hostile part of the world. We
will either be supported or unsupported by our allies. If we are
supported the costs to the United States will not be a great and the
logistics for war and occupation easier. Without support it will be
much more difficult. Our troops will also be exposed to constant
danger to ambush. There will be high casualties from this. It will
come from many terrorists sources.

While we are saber rattling it gave the Iraqis time to slip their own
terror cells into our country. Don't kid yourselves, they are here.
The President gave them plenty of advance warning. So now we have
Iraq, Iran, and Al Qaeda terror cells in the US. The seratin found in
England was probably distributed through out the NATO countries and
the United States. Upon our attack it will probably be released.

While the war is going on it will be expensive to finance. So we will
have to issue Treasuries to pay for the expense. The last treasury
auction went badly. We had to offer the notes at discount prices. The
yields had to be higher so that the bonds would be bought. During this
war interest rates for bonds will rise to finance the war. this will
cause interest rates for all loans rise. The cost to use money will
rise. The recovery will be postponed. The deficit will be a huge
burden for years to come. This is not the same scenario as the last
Iraq war.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. So before you say lets do this
and get it over with, just know what the cost of a war could be.

I am for defending this country against all threats. I just understand
what that actually means.

VT

http://groups.google.com/group/OpenDebateForum/web/one-mans-humble-opinion?hl=en


On Nov 20, 1:39 pm, Zebnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > let others who know what they are doing
>
> You mean you cowardly, limp-wristed, fifth column, anti-American,
> adolescent lib/Dems? ROTFLMAO!!!!
>
> On Nov 20, 4:27 pm, VT Sean Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The Iranians are just one more example of a missed opportunity
> > cause by the errant war of unprovoked aggression in Iraq.
>
> > Yet you myopic ignorant Bush Republicans can't see the damage
> > you caused with your 'enlightened' policies.
>
> > You had your chance, you FUCKED EVERYTHING UP,
> > now shut the fuck up and let others who know what they are
> > doing fixed the huge fucking mess you guys created!
>
> > On Nov 20, 1:19 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > an Iraqi-American alliance because a majority of Iraqi perfer us as
> > > allies to countries like Saudi Arabia, Syria, or Iran...
>
> > >http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/sadr-takes-aim-at-new-us-iraq-agreement/2/
>
> > > >>> I think the fact that prominent Sadrist leader Hazim Aaraji said they 
> > > >>> were shocked by the developments reflects the complexity of Iran’s 
> > > >>> manipulation of Sadr and the SIIC by letting the latter agree on the 
> > > >>> deal while encouraging the former to oppose it — a miniature 
> > > >>> carrot-and-stick game. I doubt the Iranians are happy with the 
> > > >>> agreement per se; they are only happy with their self-proclaimed 
> > > >>> ability to play Iraqi Shiite parties against one another. I would 
> > > >>> even say that Iranians are doing exactly what diplomacy textbooks 
> > > >>> would instruct regarding presenting one’s own chips. What they didn’t 
> > > >>> understand of the textbooks, though, is that they also need to know 
> > > >>> how much the person across the table is interested in those chips. In 
> > > >>> fact, Iran is overlooking the fact that across the table sit more 
> > > >>> than America alone, when it comes to the nuclear question.
>
> > > What the Iranians don’t understand is that their carrots and sticks
> > > are not big enough to change world opinion on their nuclear ambitions.
> > > There is a multitude of states that couldn’t care less about American
> > > success in Iraq but to whom Iran’s going nuclear is a red line — the
> > > nuclear issue is not a U.S.-Iran duel on Iraqi soil.
>
> > > Anyway, I think the Iraqi decision to accept the deal was a result of
> > > the tough stance of the American administration. This actually
> > > surprised Iraqis who were used to a softer American tone. Moreover,
> > > many parties in Baghdad have matured to deal pragmatically and
> > > realistically with the issue of a strategic partnership with America —
> > > America is the best ally we could possibly have. Even though Iran
> > > holds a few strings, most of the strings now are in more capable Iraqi
> > > hands backed by the mighty United States of America.- Hide quoted text -
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