No- we just don't give more ammunition to brokers, banks and credit card companies. It's really ingenius how the public has been played- first we are swindled and then we bail them out of their losses.If you expect them to bail you out, lots of luck.
On Nov 23, 11:28 am, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So we grow are own veggies, knit our own shirts and make our own porn? > > On Nov 23, 6:09 am, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Anyone who shops this corrupt economy is a traitor. > > > On Nov 22, 9:47 pm, Zebnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You have a written history of being an uninformed jackass. Seldom are > > > there people outside a "cuckoos nest" who are so deranged as you. > > > Already, the Islamic barbarians have declared Obama a "house nigger", > > > yet brain dead assholes like you STILL can't see that it isn't GW that > > > they hate, but our country and way of life. They are much like you, > > > traitorous piece of shit. > > > > On Nov 20, 4:46 pm, VT Sean Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Unlike you dumb ass I have a written history of being correct. > > > > > This is from December 2003 > > > > > Right now we are in Iraq for the duration, for better or worse. I > > > > believe if the outcome should be negative, no WMDs or connection to > > > > the 9/11 terrorists, World opinion will not be against the American > > > > people or > > > > this country, but against the Bush administration. > > > > > The flip side would be a tremendous boost to the Administration. > > > > Should irrefutable evidence of a connection between the 9/11 > > > > terrorists and Saddam's active participation to aide, arm and > > > > facilitate this > > > > attack, Bush will win in a landslide. > > > > > The finding of WMDs in and of itself would not be enough however to > > > > justify the war, and the expenditure of men, money and resources if > > > > no connection to bin-Laden is made. > > > > > Far worst, if the United States should sustain an attack from al- > > > > Quada, this could mean a substantial and irreconcilable error for > > > > the administration, especially if no tie to bin-Laden, Saddam and WMDs > > > > is > > > > established. > > > > > Other concerns are looming in the distance, Wall Street is > > > > rebounding, but this may not translate to the economy. > > > > > We are facing a number of factors that can stop the recovery from > > > > happening. > > > > > If the falling dollar continues unabated, confidence in investing in > > > > American Markets will dissipate. Any returns Foreign Investors will > > > > receive in the US Stock Markets or other monetary US investments will > > > > be negated by the currency differential. Add to this the need to > > > > finance our > > > > growing National Debt by foreign investors and you begin to see a > > > > huge > > > > precipice just ahead. If the fall of the dollar is not curtailed soon, > > > > the need to > > > > raise rates and lower initial Bond price offerings will occur so that > > > > foreigners will > > > > be enticed to buy our Bonds.This increase of rates could put a quick > > > > end > > > > to this recovery. With no recovery, a lower tax base due to the recent > > > > cuts, > > > > the largest deficit spending in history, and unfunded or underfunded > > > > liabilities such as Social Security and Medicare benefits for the > > > > Baby Boomers > > > > and you have the making for problems for the American people and the > > > > consumer. > > > > > In the past this was not a problem because the US economy was the > > > > engine for the world. This is no longer the case. Jobs run the > > > > engine > > > > and we have been exporting jobs to the new rising engine in the > > > > English > > > > speaking countries in the Asian Hemisphere. In the pass we only > > > > exported the > > > > low paying manufacturing jobs, but now we export the higher earning > > > > electronic > > > > manufacturing, technical service and customer service jobs. > > > > > Ultimately this will mean a lowering of the standard of living for > > > > Americans in an effort to be competitive in the World job market. > > > > > This will mean even less money for the Government in the form of > > > > taxes. Also > > > > the issue of tax collection for the large multinationals occurs. > > > > Multinationals > > > > can effectively move their domicile to a tax friendly country paying > > > > a > > > > majority of their taxes there and place business components through > > > > out the world > > > > as it becomes bottom line appropriate. > > > > > This is just one Scenario. It need not occur. Speaking about it, > > > > helps it not happen. > > > > > There is a reason Gold is going > > > > up.http://groups.google.com/group/OpenDebateForum/web/acceptance-the-gol... > > > > > On Nov 20, 1:39 pm, Zebnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > let others who know what they are doing > > > > > > You mean you cowardly, limp-wristed, fifth column, anti-American, > > > > > adolescent lib/Dems? ROTFLMAO!!!! > > > > > > On Nov 20, 4:27 pm, VT Sean Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > The Iranians are just one more example of a missed opportunity > > > > > > cause by the errant war of unprovoked aggression in Iraq. > > > > > > > Yet you myopic ignorant Bush Republicans can't see the damage > > > > > > you caused with your 'enlightened' policies. > > > > > > > You had your chance, you FUCKED EVERYTHING UP, > > > > > > now shut the fuck up and let others who know what they are > > > > > > doing fixed the huge fucking mess you guys created! > > > > > > > On Nov 20, 1:19 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > an Iraqi-American alliance because a majority of Iraqi perfer us > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > allies to countries like Saudi Arabia, Syria, or Iran... > > > > > > > >http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/sadr-takes-aim-at-new-us-iraq-agreement/2/ > > > > > > > > >>> I think the fact that prominent Sadrist leader Hazim Aaraji > > > > > > > >>> said they were shocked by the developments reflects the > > > > > > > >>> complexity of Iran’s manipulation of Sadr and the SIIC by > > > > > > > >>> letting the latter agree on the deal while encouraging the > > > > > > > >>> former to oppose it — a miniature carrot-and-stick game. I > > > > > > > >>> doubt the Iranians are happy with the agreement per se; they > > > > > > > >>> are only happy with their self-proclaimed ability to play > > > > > > > >>> Iraqi Shiite parties against one another. I would even say > > > > > > > >>> that Iranians are doing exactly what diplomacy textbooks > > > > > > > >>> would instruct regarding presenting one’s own chips. What > > > > > > > >>> they didn’t understand of the textbooks, though, is that they > > > > > > > >>> also need to know how much the person across the table is > > > > > > > >>> interested in those chips. In fact, Iran is overlooking the > > > > > > > >>> fact that across the table sit more than America alone, when > > > > > > > >>> it comes to the nuclear question. > > > > > > > > What the Iranians don’t understand is that their carrots and > > > > > > > sticks > > > > > > > are not big enough to change world opinion on their nuclear > > > > > > > ambitions. > > > > > > > There is a multitude of states that couldn’t care less about > > > > > > > American > > > > > > > success in Iraq but to whom Iran’s going nuclear is a red line — > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > nuclear issue is not a U.S.-Iran duel on Iraqi soil. > > > > > > > > Anyway, I think the Iraqi decision to accept the deal was a > > > > > > > result of > > > > > > > the tough stance of the American administration. This actually > > > > > > > surprised Iraqis who were used to a softer American tone. > > > > > > > Moreover, > > > > > > > many parties in Baghdad have matured to deal pragmatically and > > > > > > > realistically with the issue of a strategic partnership with > > > > > > > America — > > > > > > > America is the best ally we could possibly have. Even though Iran > > > > > > > holds a few strings, most of the strings now are in more capable > > > > > > > Iraqi > > > > > > > hands backed by the mighty United States of America.- Hide quoted > > > > > > > text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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