If this is an issue, then why did you depart from the subject and begin attacking the Bush administration and what it has done or not done? Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
On Dec 9, 12:25 pm, mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ma'am you might wish to check with the board moderator . but i think > there is a rule about changing the topic of a thread . and as i have > said if you wish to post on another subject start a thread with that > name . I am sure you would find someone who would respond to you ! > > On Dec 9, 12:13 pm, NavyBrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Tell you what Mikey. You stop your personal attacks on Palin and I'll > > leave you be. But since you woun't do that no matter what...don't > > expect me to adhere to your demands. > > > On Dec 9, 10:10 am, mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > sorry ma'am ! but much like your advice on spelling and punctuation it > > > is unwanted . it would be nice if you could stick to the topic > > > instead of launching into personal attacks . > > > > On Dec 9, 11:48 am, NavyBrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Thats right Mikey. You get a gold star today! > > > > > On Dec 9, 9:20 am, mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > ma'am ! as you can see from the title the topic of this thread is > > > > > palin and healthcare . > > > > > > On Dec 9, 10:53 am, NavyBrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Not gonna happen ...your stuck with what you hve wrought. > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 8:49 am, mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > ma'am ! please refer back to my comments on starting a new thread > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 10:45 am, NavyBrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You see what you want. And where Palin is concerned its never > > > > > > > > going to > > > > > > > > be good enoughfor you. Thats what I see. Blind stubborness is > > > > > > > > never a > > > > > > > > good thing. Just as blind following isn't never a good thing. > > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 8:35 am, mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > no ma'am in time perhaps you will see . i already have ! > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 10:20 am, NavyBrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In time I guess we'll see. > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 8:15 am, mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > sorry ma'am that is not how it sounds to me ! > > > > > > > > > > > [Greater deregulation: Palin had previously led an effort > > > > > > > > > > > to repeal > > > > > > > > > > > Certificate of Need laws, (CON) — “a regulatory process > > > > > > > > > > > that requires > > > > > > > > > > > certain health care providers to obtain state approval > > > > > > > > > > > before > > > > > > > > > > > offering > > > > > > > > > > > certain new or expanded service.” Despite evidence that > > > > > > > > > > > repealing CON > > > > > > > > > > > laws would drive-up health care costs, Palin claimed that > > > > > > > > > > > loosening > > > > > > > > > > > CON laws would “invite more competition in our larger > > > > > > > > > > > market to > > > > > > > > > > > provide health care.” > > > > > > > > > > > Boost funding to Denali Kid Care (SCHIP): Palin proposed > > > > > > > > > > > increasing > > > > > > > > > > > eligibility from 175% to 200% of the Federal Poverty > > > > > > > > > > > Level to cover > > > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > additional 1,300 kids. “It’s going to be good for more > > > > > > > > > > > children to be > > > > > > > > > > > on the rolls to have the opportunity for the coverage,” > > > > > > > > > > > Palin > > > > > > > > > > > announced. When questioned why she previously opposed > > > > > > > > > > > such an > > > > > > > > > > > expansion, Palin explained that she appointed “new > > > > > > > > > > > commissioners” > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > a “new vision.” > > > > > > > > > > > > What’s missing from Palin’s plan is broad access to > > > > > > > > > > > affordable > > > > > > > > > > > coverage or cost-containment measures to make reform > > > > > > > > > > > possible. Let’s > > > > > > > > > > > hope her Health Care Commission, the members of which > > > > > > > > > > > have yet to be > > > > > > > > > > > appointed, offers a more comprehensive proposal. ] > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 10:07 am, NavyBrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like she's trying to do good by her state. She > > > > > > > > > > > > is mocing > > > > > > > > > > > > forward with finding a way to help insure more of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Good for her! > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 8:03 am, mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/12/05/palin-health-plan/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > At best, Palin’s proposals are small steps to a > > > > > > > > > > > > > larger reform effort. > > > > > > > > > > > > > At worst they’re a wholly inadequate set of ‘pilot > > > > > > > > > > > > > programs’ designed > > > > > > > > > > > > > to bolster Palin’s health care credentials without > > > > > > > > > > > > > accomplishing much > > > > > > > > > > > > > at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With efforts like these, who needs access to care?: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Outdoor activity is not a “silver bullet” to > > > > > > > > > > > > > increasing health > > > > > > > > > > > > > outcomes, Palin confessed. Other “fiscally > > > > > > > > > > > > > responsible” approaches > > > > > > > > > > > > > must be considered: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Greater deregulation: Palin had previously led an > > > > > > > > > > > > > effort to repeal > > > > > > > > > > > > > Certificate of Need laws, (CON) — “a regulatory > > > > > > > > > > > > > process that requires > > > > > > > > > > > > > certain health care providers to obtain state > > > > > > > > > > > > > approval before offering > > > > > > > > > > > > > certain new or expanded service.” Despite evidence > > > > > > > > > > > > > that repealing CON > > > > > > > > > > > > > laws would drive-up health care costs, Palin claimed > > > > > > > > > > > > > that loosening > > > > > > > > > > > > > CON laws would “invite more competition in our larger > > > > > > > > > > > > > market to > > > > > > > > > > > > > provide health care.” > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Purchasing insurance across state lines: In a > > > > > > > > > > > > > throw-back to Sen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > John McCain’s (R-AZ) health care plan, Palin promised > > > > > > > > > > > > > to “support > > > > > > > > > > > > > efforts on a national level for allowance of > > > > > > > > > > > > > residents in one state to > > > > > > > > > > > > > look for insurance in other states, again all in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > name of > > > > > > > > > > > > > competition, resulting, ideally, in more > > > > > > > > > > > > > affordability, in addition to > > > > > > > > > > > > > supporting other national initiatives that newly > > > > > > > > > > > > > election > > > > > > > > > > > > > administration coming into office can provide > > > > > > > > > > > > > opportunity for.” > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Web-MD Alaska: Called, ‘Live Well Alaska,’ this > > > > > > > > > > > > > website “pulls > > > > > > > > > > > > > together all the best advises for healthy eating and > > > > > > > > > > > > > exercise and > > > > > > > > > > > > > quitting smoking and it also incentivizes healthy > > > > > > > > > > > > > life styles with > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alaskan stories and health challenges..” “Alaskans > > > > > > > > > > > > > are unfortunately > > > > > > > > > > > > > becoming dangerously unhealthy due to poor diet or > > > > > > > > > > > > > little or no > > > > > > > > > > > > > exercise…each of us must take personal responsibility > > > > > > > > > > > > > for our level of > > > > > > > > > > > > > health, those things we can control, and not look to > > > > > > > > > > > > > government to > > > > > > > > > > > > > make us healthy…’Live Well Alaska’ will help.” > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Alaska Health Care Commission: “The purpose of this > > > > > > > > > > > > > is to provide > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommendations for and foster developments of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > state wide plan to > > > > > > > > > > > > > address the quality, accessibility, and availability, > > > > > > > > > > > > > of health care > > > > > > > > > > > > > here in Alaska and this is the result of our Health > > > > > > > > > > > > > Care Council’s > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommendations to do so.” > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Boost funding to Denali Kid Care (SCHIP): Palin > > > > > > > > > > > > > proposed increasing > > > > > > > > > > > > > eligibility from 175% to 200% of the Federal Poverty > > > > > > > > > > > > > Level to cover an > > > > > > > > > > > > > additional 1,300 kids. “It’s going to be good for > > > > > > > > > > > > > more children to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the rolls to have the opportunity for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > coverage,” Palin > > > > > > > > > > > > > announced. When questioned why she previously opposed > > > > > > > > > > > > > such an > > > > > > > > > > > > > expansion, Palin explained that she appointed “new > > > > > > > > > > > > > commissioners” with > > > > > > > > > > > > > a “new vision.” > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What’s missing from Palin’s plan is broad access to > > > > > > > > > > > > > affordable > > > > > > > > > > > > > coverage or cost-containment measures to make reform > > > > > > > > > > > > > possible. Let’s > > > > > > > > > > > > > hope her Health Care Commission, the members of which > > > > > > > > > > > > > have yet to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > appointed, offers a more comprehensive proposal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 9:29 am, mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush cut the budget to both the FDA and USDA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including the inspectors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He and the Republican congress also eliminated the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > country of origin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > labels required on food. He has done everything > > > > > > > > > > > > > > possible to protect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his corporate buddies. Of course it backfires like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all his harebrained > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schemes did. Topps out of business over the beef > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recalls and 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deaths. Dogs and cats dead from tainted food from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > China. Excessive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amounts of lead on imported toys because we wanted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheaper and cheaper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > products. Top dollar medicines that are only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minimally effective if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not deadly. Corporate bottom lines got fatter while > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush' constituents > > > > > > > > > > > > > > died. Funny how the American's cried when Japan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > halted imports of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > American beef. They obviously don't trust our food. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I live here and I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't trust it. That probably explains why > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conservatives pray before > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mealhttp://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080217171845AACOE76 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 9:02 am, mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i like the idea of people exercising and eating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healthy foods . and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > isn't it a tragedy that we can't trust the foods > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we buy over the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > counter because of the cuts in funding by the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > republicans and the lack > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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