Very cool. We have deer here that walk down our street towards the greenbelt. I'd love to see some moose or reindeer doing that!
On Dec 9, 9:40 am, margareth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > we have mule deer here. In this province they are currently so > numerous that hundreds are killed on the highways. The medical info. > on moose, comes with hunting information. Bull moose are also > notorious for attacking small cars, When out of season, it is > necessary to be wary of them when driving at night. Under those > circumstances, the meat usually does not offset the cost of the car > repairs. With so many out of work, many families will be eating wild > meat this winter. > I saw a film about the 'ghost reindeer' of the Nome area, and was > intrigued. If you check with the National Geographic, or any > encyclopaedia, you would find that caribou, and reindeer are native > North American and North Eurasian subspecies. that feed on lichens > etc. through ou the northern regions, and at one time as far south as > Maine. Of course many lawns are now being ornamented with the red > nosed version these days. > > On Dec 9, 11:23 am, NavyBrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Then of course just how does that cover for the effects of genetics. > > A > > good health care system can't just skim off the cream of customers, > > those with chronic ailments are also in need of affordable treatment. > > ********************* > > I agree...and I think Palin will address those needs with her new > > commission. > > BTW...very interesting tidbit of info you gave. How do you come to > > know so much about the reindeer and moose? > > > On Dec 9, 9:18 am, margareth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > In the nineteenth century there was a movement to establish a meat > > > industry in the area around Nome Alaska. It was founded by a Russian/ > > > Inuit woman, who brought them to Alaska, and established an incredible > > > industry. Unfortunately after she died, the disposition of her estate > > > could not be settled, the reindeer went wild, then died, and that was > > > the end. Range fed reindeer, like range fed cattle carry much less > > > fat, and in theory fewer contaminants. I say in theory, because the > > > North is not immune to the pollutants of the south, far from it. And > > > an environmental disaster has long lasting implications in the north, > > > partly because of the time it takes for the reset. The caribou herd > > > is still there as a migratory wild species. This would impose a threat > > > on the reindeer, or vice versa, If the USDA does its job that would > > > substantially slow the entire process. By the way Navy, moose caught > > > in this area (SE Ontario, ) have warnings not to eat the liver, > > > because of heavy metal contamination. That alone should give some > > > pause, is beef liver safe? or is it at safe levels only because the > > > steer was killed at a relatively young age. > > > Then of course just how does that cover for the effects of genetics. A > > > good health care system can't just skim off the cream of customers, > > > those with chronic ailments are also in need of affordable treatment. > > > > On Dec 9, 10:53 am, NavyBrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Not gonna happen ...your stuck with what you hve wrought. > > > > > On Dec 9, 8:49 am, mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > ma'am ! please refer back to my comments on starting a new thread . > > > > > > On Dec 9, 10:45 am, NavyBrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > You see what you want. And where Palin is concerned its never going > > > > > > to > > > > > > be good enoughfor you. Thats what I see. Blind stubborness is > > > > > > never a > > > > > > good thing. Just as blind following isn't never a good thing. > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 8:35 am, mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > no ma'am in time perhaps you will see . i already have ! > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 10:20 am, NavyBrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In time I guess we'll see. > > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 8:15 am, mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > sorry ma'am that is not how it sounds to me ! > > > > > > > > > [Greater deregulation: Palin had previously led an effort to > > > > > > > > > repeal > > > > > > > > > Certificate of Need laws, (CON) — “a regulatory process that > > > > > > > > > requires > > > > > > > > > certain health care providers to obtain state approval before > > > > > > > > > offering > > > > > > > > > certain new or expanded service.” Despite evidence that > > > > > > > > > repealing CON > > > > > > > > > laws would drive-up health care costs, Palin claimed that > > > > > > > > > loosening > > > > > > > > > CON laws would “invite more competition in our larger market > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > provide health care.” > > > > > > > > > Boost funding to Denali Kid Care (SCHIP): Palin proposed > > > > > > > > > increasing > > > > > > > > > eligibility from 175% to 200% of the Federal Poverty Level to > > > > > > > > > cover > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > additional 1,300 kids. “It’s going to be good for more > > > > > > > > > children to be > > > > > > > > > on the rolls to have the opportunity for the coverage,” Palin > > > > > > > > > announced. When questioned why she previously opposed such an > > > > > > > > > expansion, Palin explained that she appointed “new > > > > > > > > > commissioners” > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > a “new vision.” > > > > > > > > > > What’s missing from Palin’s plan is broad access to affordable > > > > > > > > > coverage or cost-containment measures to make reform > > > > > > > > > possible. Let’s > > > > > > > > > hope her Health Care Commission, the members of which have > > > > > > > > > yet to be > > > > > > > > > appointed, offers a more comprehensive proposal. ] > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 10:07 am, NavyBrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like she's trying to do good by her state. She is > > > > > > > > > > mocing > > > > > > > > > > forward with finding a way to help insure more of them. > > > > > > > > > > Good for her! > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 8:03 am, mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/12/05/palin-health-plan/ > > > > > > > > > > > At best, Palin’s proposals are small steps to a larger > > > > > > > > > > > reform effort. > > > > > > > > > > > At worst they’re a wholly inadequate set of ‘pilot > > > > > > > > > > > programs’ designed > > > > > > > > > > > to bolster Palin’s health care credentials without > > > > > > > > > > > accomplishing much > > > > > > > > > > > at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > With efforts like these, who needs access to care?: > > > > > > > > > > > Outdoor activity is not a “silver bullet” to increasing > > > > > > > > > > > health > > > > > > > > > > > outcomes, Palin confessed. Other “fiscally responsible” > > > > > > > > > > > approaches > > > > > > > > > > > must be considered: > > > > > > > > > > > > - Greater deregulation: Palin had previously led an > > > > > > > > > > > effort to repeal > > > > > > > > > > > Certificate of Need laws, (CON) — “a regulatory process > > > > > > > > > > > that requires > > > > > > > > > > > certain health care providers to obtain state approval > > > > > > > > > > > before offering > > > > > > > > > > > certain new or expanded service.” Despite evidence that > > > > > > > > > > > repealing CON > > > > > > > > > > > laws would drive-up health care costs, Palin claimed that > > > > > > > > > > > loosening > > > > > > > > > > > CON laws would “invite more competition in our larger > > > > > > > > > > > market to > > > > > > > > > > > provide health care.” > > > > > > > > > > > > - Purchasing insurance across state lines: In a > > > > > > > > > > > throw-back to Sen. > > > > > > > > > > > John McCain’s (R-AZ) health care plan, Palin promised to > > > > > > > > > > > “support > > > > > > > > > > > efforts on a national level for allowance of residents in > > > > > > > > > > > one state to > > > > > > > > > > > look for insurance in other states, again all in the name > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > competition, resulting, ideally, in more affordability, > > > > > > > > > > > in addition to > > > > > > > > > > > supporting other national initiatives that newly election > > > > > > > > > > > administration coming into office can provide opportunity > > > > > > > > > > > for.” > > > > > > > > > > > > - Web-MD Alaska: Called, ‘Live Well Alaska,’ this website > > > > > > > > > > > “pulls > > > > > > > > > > > together all the best advises for healthy eating and > > > > > > > > > > > exercise and > > > > > > > > > > > quitting smoking and it also incentivizes healthy life > > > > > > > > > > > styles with > > > > > > > > > > > Alaskan stories and health challenges..” “Alaskans are > > > > > > > > > > > unfortunately > > > > > > > > > > > becoming dangerously unhealthy due to poor diet or little > > > > > > > > > > > or no > > > > > > > > > > > exercise…each of us must take personal responsibility for > > > > > > > > > > > our level of > > > > > > > > > > > health, those things we can control, and not look to > > > > > > > > > > > government to > > > > > > > > > > > make us healthy…’Live Well Alaska’ will help.” > > > > > > > > > > > > - Alaska Health Care Commission: “The purpose of this is > > > > > > > > > > > to provide > > > > > > > > > > > recommendations for and foster developments of the state > > > > > > > > > > > wide plan to > > > > > > > > > > > address the quality, accessibility, and availability, of > > > > > > > > > > > health care > > > > > > > > > > > here in Alaska and this is the result of our Health Care > > > > > > > > > > > Council’s > > > > > > > > > > > recommendations to do so.” > > > > > > > > > > > > - Boost funding to Denali Kid Care (SCHIP): Palin > > > > > > > > > > > proposed increasing > > > > > > > > > > > eligibility from 175% to 200% of the Federal Poverty > > > > > > > > > > > Level to cover an > > > > > > > > > > > additional 1,300 kids. “It’s going to be good for more > > > > > > > > > > > children to be > > > > > > > > > > > on the rolls to have the opportunity for the coverage,” > > > > > > > > > > > Palin > > > > > > > > > > > announced. When questioned why she previously opposed > > > > > > > > > > > such an > > > > > > > > > > > expansion, Palin explained that she appointed “new > > > > > > > > > > > commissioners” with > > > > > > > > > > > a “new vision.” > > > > > > > > > > > > What’s missing from Palin’s plan is broad access to > > > > > > > > > > > affordable > > > > > > > > > > > coverage or cost-containment measures to make reform > > > > > > > > > > > possible. Let’s > > > > > > > > > > > hope her Health Care Commission, the members of which > > > > > > > > > > > have yet to be > > > > > > > > > > > appointed, offers a more comprehensive proposal. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 9:29 am, mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush cut the budget to both the FDA and USDA including > > > > > > > > > > > > the inspectors. > > > > > > > > > > > > He and the Republican > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
