eh? Are we talking the Senate seat in IL? All is takes is dough. Google it.
On Dec 11, 4:44 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > Ramakazee, > > Qualififying is one thing. Suceeded in the effort is quite another > quite a different thing. > > My point. > > On Dec 11, 12:22 pm, Kamakazee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Gimme a couple hundred grand and I qualify for everything mentioned. > > > My point. > > > On Dec 11, 10:56 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > And then become senator. > > > > On Dec 11, 11:14 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Ramakazee, > > > > > No, it does not take all that much to get into law school. > > > > The trick is to graduate with honors and then pass your state's Bar > > > > Exam. > > > > Duuuuuuuuh. > > > > > On Dec 10, 11:53 am, Kamakazee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Between you and I, it doesn't take much to get in law school. Trust > > > > > me. > > > > > > Even less to be an "elected official", ask the Gov of IL. > > > > > > Show me the beef, not the cotton candy. > > > > > > On Dec 10, 11:15 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hmmm. Law school, elected official... I guess all that is the same > > > > > > as > > > > > > flipping burgers to you, right? > > > > > > > On Dec 10, 12:13 pm, Kamakazee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Eh? Did you read the blurb? He rejected the whole "community > > > > > > > orgranizer" gig as being impotent, but no where does it detail any > > > > > > > real accomplish afterwards. > > > > > > > > Now are we square? > > > > > > > > On Dec 10, 11:10 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Interesting that first you state "Obama has > > > > > > > > organized communities, not too much more." > > > > > > > > Then you go on to completely contradict yourself and point out > > > > > > > > all the > > > > > > > > things he has done since then. > > > > > > > > Can't have it both ways. :-) > > > > > > > > > On Dec 10, 12:07 pm, Kamakazee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Uh, wrong. I could get a picture of John Wayne and slap > > > > > > > > > "community > > > > > > > > > organizer" on it. > > > > > > > > > > But why don't we see how Obama himself felt about the title, > > > > > > > > > eh? > > > > > > > > > > "TNR's John Judis tracked down Jerry Kellman, who in 1985 > > > > > > > > > "hired Obama > > > > > > > > > to organize residents of Chicago's South Side." Kellman > > > > > > > > > describes a > > > > > > > > > conversation the two "community organizers" had at a > > > > > > > > > conference on > > > > > > > > > "social justice" in October 1987: > > > > > > > > > > "[Obama] wanted to marry and have children, and to have a > > > > > > > > > stable > > > > > > > > > income," Kellman recalls. > > > > > > > > > But Obama was also worried about something else. He told > > > > > > > > > Kellman that > > > > > > > > > he feared community organizing would never allow him "to make > > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > changes in poverty or discrimination." To do that, he said, > > > > > > > > > "you > > > > > > > > > either had to be an elected official or be influential with > > > > > > > > > elected > > > > > > > > > officials." In other words, Obama believed that his chosen > > > > > > > > > profession > > > > > > > > > was getting him nowhere, or at least not far enough. . . . > > > > > > > > > > And so, Obama told Kellman, he had decided to leave community > > > > > > > > > organizing and go to law school. > > > > > > > > > > Another way of putting this might be that Obama left community > > > > > > > > > organizing because he wanted a job in which he had actual > > > > > > > > > responsibilities (and, of course, earned more money). > > > > > > > > > > But Obama did not decide only that "community organizing" was > > > > > > > > > not for > > > > > > > > > him. Judis reports the future senator took part in a > > > > > > > > > September 1989 > > > > > > > > > symposium in which he "rejected the guiding principles of > > > > > > > > > community > > > > > > > > > organizing: the elevation of self-interest over moral vision; > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > disdain for charismatic leaders and their movements; and the > > > > > > > > > suspicion > > > > > > > > > of politics itself." Later, Obama "would begin to construct a > > > > > > > > > political identity for himself that was not simply different > > > > > > > > > from his > > > > > > > > > identity as a community organizer--but was, in fact, its very > > > > > > > > > opposite." > > > > > > > > > >http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB122075869303807633.html > > > > > > > > > > Are we square? > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 10, 10:35 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >http://punditkitchen.com/?s=community+organizer > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 10, 11:32 am, Kamakazee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to apologize; I commented on his (one major) > > > > > > > > > > > appointment. > > > > > > > > > > > > My point overall is sure, his approval rating is up. It > > > > > > > > > > > should be. > > > > > > > > > > > Right now all we have are his fluffy, puffy, broad ideas > > > > > > > > > > > and goals. > > > > > > > > > > > The press loves him, Letterman has probably put in his > > > > > > > > > > > will that his > > > > > > > > > > > son will be raised by Obama when he dies. He's a > > > > > > > > > > > political version of > > > > > > > > > > > Kurt Warner, the only diff being Kurt has done the work. > > > > > > > > > > > Obama has > > > > > > > > > > > organized communities, not too much more. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 10, 10:16 am, wncs <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously the question refers to his cabinet > > > > > > > > > > > > appointments so far. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry I didn't define "transition" adequately for your > > > > > > > > > > > > understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 10, 10:16 am, Kamakazee <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What transistion? I thought he took over in Jan? He's > > > > > > > > > > > > > made a few BS > > > > > > > > > > > > > speeches, made a partial downpayment on his IOUs to > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hill (to be paid > > > > > > > > > > > > > in full with Bill as a member of the USSC), not much > > > > > > > > > > > > > more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess you meant his genius proclamation that things > > > > > > > > > > > > > will "get worse > > > > > > > > > > > > > before they get better". I give him a B for accuracy > > > > > > > > > > > > > but a D for > > > > > > > > > > > > > articulation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that help? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 10, 6:54 am, wncs <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back to the original question, who here disapproves > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of Obama's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > handling of the transition so far, and why? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 8:30 am, wncs <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WOW! So who is in the other 21% and what are your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > specific reasons for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not approving? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Poll: 79% approve of way Obama is handling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Story Highlights > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey finds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only 18 percent > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disapprove > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obama's numbers eclipse those of George W. Bush > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Bill Clinton in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same period > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CNN's Schneider: Type of figure seen when nation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rallies for leader > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after disaster > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michelle Obama and Joe Biden also garner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > favorable opinions in poll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Paul Steinhauser > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CNN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- -- With six weeks before > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > taking office, President- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > elect Barack Obama is having one heck of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > honeymoon, a new national > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > poll suggests. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nearly eight in 10 Americans questioned in a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CNN/Opinion Research > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Corporation survey out Tuesday morning are giving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the president-elect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the thumbs up when it comes to his handling of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the transition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seventy-nine percent approve of Obama's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > performance so far during > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transition, with 18 percent disapproving. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obama's approval rating is 14 points higher than > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the approval rating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for President-elect George Bush in 2001 and 17 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > points higher than > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > President-elect Clinton's rating in 1992, CNN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Polling Director Keating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Holland said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obama's current approval rating is also more than > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 50 points higher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > than President Bush's current approval rating, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which now stands at 28 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > percent --- with 71 percent disapproving of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way Bush is handling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his job as president. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "An Obama job approval rating of 79 percent -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the sort of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rating you see when the public rallies around a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leader after a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > national disaster," said Bill Schneider, CNN's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > senior political > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > analyst. "To many Americans, the Bush > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > administration was a national > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disaster." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The poll indicates that 79 percent of the public > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinks Obama will do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a good job as president -- up 4 percentage points > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from last month. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eighteen percent think Obama will do a poor job > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as president, down 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > points from November. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And 78 percent of those questioned said they > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > believe Obama will be a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uniter -- 20 points higher than those who felt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the same way about then > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > President-elect Bush in 2000. Twenty percent say > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obama will be a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > divider, 16 points lower than those who said the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same about Bush. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Bush came in promising to be a uniter, not a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > divider. That's a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > promise Bush failed to deliver -- as he himself > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > acknowledged last week- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
