palin has admitted both during and after the campaign that she used private emails for government business . i realize you would like to show i am wrong on this issue and unfortunately for you palin shot your argument out of the water .
On Dec 14, 1:21 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > No need to be sorry Mike. Unlike you, I do not have a personal > interest in this. Palin does not represent my idealology so I could > care a less if she is proven to be corrupt and pay the price. My sole > interest in this is your continued inability to be objective in > anything related to Palin. I've attempted to point out the errors in > your argument but you prefer to look the other way. That is fine. One > can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. If you prefer > to continue to delude yourself, have at it. But if you're really > interested in what's truly going on you might want to start being a > bit more open minded and honest. All JMHO. > > I'm sure you disagree, so I would ask you to break down, as I have > done, what was said and explain how it is in fact an admission of > using a private email account FOR government business, and not just of > using a private email account (which is fully legal). > > On Dec 14, 1:05 pm, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > sorry frank as much as you would like it not to be true palin admitted > > using private emails for government business ! > > > On Dec 14, 10:52 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > None. Let's look at what was said; > > > > "A spokeswoman for the McCain-Palin campaign has acknowledged the > > > use of private accounts." > > > > She uses personal email accounts. Everyone does. Does it say she > > > acknowledged using them for government business? No.. it's YOU who > > > wants to infer this from the statement. > > > > "As a champion of government accountability > > > and transparency, Governor Palin was exercising an abundance of > > > caution to ensure that all state and personal business matters were > > > being kept separate," > > > > Here she is explicitly stating the importance of separating matters of > > > personal business from state. Coming immediately following the > > > acknowledgement that she uses personal email accounts, this HAS to > > > mean she uses personal email accounts for matters of personal > > > business, and her official email accounts for matters pertaining to > > > the state. I'm pretty certain she wouldn't admit to using a personal > > > account for government business and immediately follow that up by > > > stating how she's used an abundance of caution to ensure she didn't do > > > this. Come on Mike, use your head. > > > > She admitted using personal email accounts as does most everyone else > > > these days. She does not admit using personal email accounts for > > > government business? Stop telling me to Google this.. I have, > > > extensively, and I find NO EVIDENCE of this. All I'm seeing is more > > > evidence of you being incapable of simple reading comprehension. > > > > On Dec 14, 8:49 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > what part of she admitted it don't you understand ? > > > > an if you are still having trouble excepting it look on google . > > > > On Dec 14, 8:39 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > Tell me where I'm wrong. Tell me where in the article above it shows > > > > > evidence that Palin used her personal email accounts for government > > > > > business. > > > > > > If I'm wrong, why have no charges been filed? If I'm wrong why was it > > > > > written at motherjones; "her emails--if the legal reviewers do not > > > > > censor them for political purposes--might still make interesting, and > > > > > perhaps important, reading.". If in fact there was evidence they would > > > > > not have written their attack in terms of "might still" or "and > > > > > perhaps important"? > > > > > > It is you who will not see. You WANT Palin to be guilty so you see > > > > > guilt where none currently exists. > > > > > > On Dec 14, 3:33 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > well i guess your answer proves " there are non so blind as those > > > > > > who > > > > > > will not see ? " > > > > > > > On Dec 13, 4:02 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > > > This doesn't prove a thing. Read it and pay attention to what is > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > said. I take three things away from this; > > > > > > > > (1) "...the suit alleges.". > > > > > > > > So we have a suit filed by Andrée McLeod that contends Palin did > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > This proves nothing. > > > > > > > > (2) "In one notable e-mail, a Palin aide apologized for discussing > > > > > > > state business on a public account. "Whoops!" Palin aide Frank > > > > > > > Bailey > > > > > > > wrote, after addressing an e-mail to the governor's official state > > > > > > > address. "Frank, this is not the Governor's personal account," a > > > > > > > secretary reminded him. ". > > > > > > > > So the only example cited in this article is an email that an > > > > > > > aide, > > > > > > > Frank Bailey, wrote. There is still no evidence that Palin broke > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > law. > > > > > > > > (3) "A spokeswoman for the McCain-Palin campaign has acknowledged > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > use of private accounts. "As a champion of government > > > > > > > accountability > > > > > > > and transparency, Governor Palin was exercising an abundance of > > > > > > > caution to ensure that all state and personal business matters > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > being kept separate,"". > > > > > > > > So Palin has acknowledged using private email accounts, which she > > > > > > > MUST > > > > > > > do, because by law she can't use her official email account for > > > > > > > personal emails. Note that this is NOT acknowledging the use of > > > > > > > private email accounts for government business. > > > > > > > > Somehow I suspect if these charges were against Obama you would be > > > > > > > correctly interpreting what has been written, but because this is > > > > > > > against Palin you see what you want to see. > > > > > > > > On Dec 13, 3:27 pm, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sarah Palin > > > > > > > > Palin Sued for Private E-Mails About State Business > > > > > > > > By Matthew Mosk > > > > > > > > ANCHORAGE -- In a lawsuit filed in Alaska Superior Court, a > > > > > > > > Republican > > > > > > > > activist seeks to force Gov. Sarah Palin to produce copies of > > > > > > > > official > > > > > > > > correspondence she sent and received on private e-mail accounts. > > > > > > > > > Andrée McLeod filed the suit Wednesday and publicized it in a > > > > > > > > news > > > > > > > > release today. "Rather than using her state e-mail account, > > > > > > > > throughout > > > > > > > > her two-year tenure as Governor of Alaska, defendant Sarah > > > > > > > > Palin, as a > > > > > > > > matter of routine, has used, and, on information and belief, > > > > > > > > continues > > > > > > > > to use, (at least) two private e-mail accounts... to conduct > > > > > > > > official > > > > > > > > business of the State of Alaska," the suit alleges. > > > > > > > > > The suit is the latest front in a battle McLeod is waging over > > > > > > > > Palin's > > > > > > > > e-mail. In June, she filed an open-records request and received > > > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > boxes of redacted e-mails. But more than 1,100 others were > > > > > > > > withheld, > > > > > > > > an action Palin justified by claiming executive privilege. > > > > > > > > McLeod > > > > > > > > appealed that claim last month before going to court last week. > > > > > > > > > McLeod has questioned whether Palin was using private e-mail > > > > > > > > accounts > > > > > > > > to conduct state business in a manner that would skirt > > > > > > > > open-records > > > > > > > > laws. In one notable e-mail, a Palin aide apologized for > > > > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > state business on a public account. "Whoops!" Palin aide Frank > > > > > > > > Bailey > > > > > > > > wrote, after addressing an e-mail to the governor's official > > > > > > > > state > > > > > > > > address. "Frank, this is not the Governor's personal account," a > > > > > > > > secretary reminded him. > > > > > > > > > A spokeswoman for the McCain-Palin campaign has acknowledged > > > > > > > > the use > > > > > > > > of private accounts. "As a champion of government > > > > > > > > accountability and > > > > > > > > transparency, Governor Palin was exercising an abundance of > > > > > > > > caution to > > > > > > > > ensure that all state and personal business matters were being > > > > > > > > kept > > > > > > > > separate," Meghan Stapleton said recently. "Governor Palin is > > > > > > > > committed to serving with the highest regard toward ethics." > > > > > > > > > But McLeod said she believes the Palin administration fostered a > > > > > > > > "culture of corruption" in Alaska where neither she nor her top > > > > > > > > aides > > > > > > > > were accountable to rules of transparency in government. > > > > > > > > > "The extent of the use of these private e-mail accounts > > > > > > > > demonstrates > > > > > > > > the extent of deception that the governor is operating under," > > > > > > > > McLeod > > > > > > > > said in an interview today. "The process is corrupt. The overall > > > > > > > > question now becomes, how did it become so broken that nobody > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > tell her, 'Don't do that.' That's why I'm going to the courts." > > > > > > > > > On Dec 13, 3:20 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Come back when I find anything you made up? Geez, that > > > > > > > > > wasn't > > > > > > > > > difficult. > > > > > > > > > > You made up ==> 'Palin used private email accounts for > > > > > > > > > government > > > > > > > > > business'. Well, you didn't make it up, but you have > > > > > > > > > repeated it. > > > > > > > > > > You've been given ample opportunity to prove she did it. As > > > > > > > > > expected, > > > > > > > > > you did not provide any links. Lots of cheap talk but you > > > > > > > > > can't ever > > > > > > > > > seem to prove a damn thing. > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 13, 2:23 pm, mike 532 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > come on back when you can find anything i made up sparky ! > > > > > > > > > > mean while like it or not palin used private emails for > > > > > > > > > > government > > > > > > > > > > business . > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 13, 2:05 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > > > > > > > Considering your penchant for making stuff up, I'm not > > > > > > > > > > > counting on you > > > > > > > > > > > using that information any time soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > As for there being "no question that palin used yahoo and > > > > > > > > > > > other email > > > > > > > > > > > accounts for government emails".. perhaps you have no > > > > > > > > > > > question, but > > > > > > > > > > > then again, you'll accept any story as long as it's > > > > > > > > > > > anti-Palin, so I'm > > > > > > > > > > > not surprised. > > > > > > > > > > > > Fact is, I did Google this and it came up empty. I've > > > > > > > > > > > searched for > > > > > > > > > > > quotes, I've searched for charges, I've searched for > > > > > > > > > > > copies of emails > > > > > > > > > > > that would prove this and all I can find are people such > > > > > > > > > > > as you making > > > > > > > > > > > the accusation but never substantiating it. I guess you > > > > > > > > > > > guys think if > > > > > > > > > > > you repeat the lie often enough it will make it true. > > > > > > > > > > > > You might want to try employing some common sense. Do you > > > > > > > > > > > really think > > > > > > > > > > > motherjones would have written "her emails--if the legal > > > > > > > > > > > reviewers do > > > > > > > > > > > not censor them for political purposes--might still make > > > > > > > > > > > interesting, > > > > > > > > > > > and perhaps important, reading." if evidence existed? > > > > > > > > > > > And how can > > > > > > > > > > > legal reviewers censor them if they're already out there? > > > > > > > > > > > Duh! > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't suppose you're going to actually prove Palin > > > > > > > > > > > admitted to this > > > ... > > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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