Mark, It's still entertaining. Time and again Mike makes a claim, to which it is easily proven wrong, and rather than address the facts he repeats his same line.
It's be proven by his very own reference that an unborn fetus is alive. Not only can he not mount an argument against the definition but he chids you for questioning a later definition, which is clearly philosophical. Here it's been proven that Palin has not admitted to using a personal email account for government business and again, he can't defend it, so he repeats the same old line. All I've asked for is a quote or a link to something that proves the evidence exists and Mike can't do it. Milke twists things so badly that he could actually argue that frogs can fly because they eat flies. What I'd really like to see is someone, such as Hollywood, whom I believe Mike does respect, to jump in here and add his two cents. At least Hollywood takes the time to defend his positions. On Dec 14, 2:03 pm, mark <[email protected]> wrote: > frank, arguing is murky is a tee total waste of your time. his little > mind functions in a reality unknown to sane people. save your breath. > > On Dec 14, 1:05 pm, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > sorry frank as much as you would like it not to be true palin admitted > > using private emails for government business ! > > > On Dec 14, 10:52 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > None. Let's look at what was said; > > > > "A spokeswoman for the McCain-Palin campaign has acknowledged the > > > use of private accounts." > > > > She uses personal email accounts. Everyone does. Does it say she > > > acknowledged using them for government business? No.. it's YOU who > > > wants to infer this from the statement. > > > > "As a champion of government accountability > > > and transparency, Governor Palin was exercising an abundance of > > > caution to ensure that all state and personal business matters were > > > being kept separate," > > > > Here she is explicitly stating the importance of separating matters of > > > personal business from state. Coming immediately following the > > > acknowledgement that she uses personal email accounts, this HAS to > > > mean she uses personal email accounts for matters of personal > > > business, and her official email accounts for matters pertaining to > > > the state. I'm pretty certain she wouldn't admit to using a personal > > > account for government business and immediately follow that up by > > > stating how she's used an abundance of caution to ensure she didn't do > > > this. Come on Mike, use your head. > > > > She admitted using personal email accounts as does most everyone else > > > these days. She does not admit using personal email accounts for > > > government business? Stop telling me to Google this.. I have, > > > extensively, and I find NO EVIDENCE of this. All I'm seeing is more > > > evidence of you being incapable of simple reading comprehension. > > > > On Dec 14, 8:49 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > what part of she admitted it don't you understand ? > > > > an if you are still having trouble excepting it look on google . > > > > On Dec 14, 8:39 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > Tell me where I'm wrong. Tell me where in the article above it shows > > > > > evidence that Palin used her personal email accounts for government > > > > > business. > > > > > > If I'm wrong, why have no charges been filed? If I'm wrong why was it > > > > > written at motherjones; "her emails--if the legal reviewers do not > > > > > censor them for political purposes--might still make interesting, and > > > > > perhaps important, reading.". If in fact there was evidence they would > > > > > not have written their attack in terms of "might still" or "and > > > > > perhaps important"? > > > > > > It is you who will not see. You WANT Palin to be guilty so you see > > > > > guilt where none currently exists. > > > > > > On Dec 14, 3:33 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > well i guess your answer proves " there are non so blind as those > > > > > > who > > > > > > will not see ? " > > > > > > > On Dec 13, 4:02 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > > > This doesn't prove a thing. Read it and pay attention to what is > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > said. I take three things away from this; > > > > > > > > (1) "...the suit alleges.". > > > > > > > > So we have a suit filed by Andrée McLeod that contends Palin did > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > This proves nothing. > > > > > > > > (2) "In one notable e-mail, a Palin aide apologized for discussing > > > > > > > state business on a public account. "Whoops!" Palin aide Frank > > > > > > > Bailey > > > > > > > wrote, after addressing an e-mail to the governor's official state > > > > > > > address. "Frank, this is not the Governor's personal account," a > > > > > > > secretary reminded him. ". > > > > > > > > So the only example cited in this article is an email that an > > > > > > > aide, > > > > > > > Frank Bailey, wrote. There is still no evidence that Palin broke > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > law. > > > > > > > > (3) "A spokeswoman for the McCain-Palin campaign has acknowledged > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > use of private accounts. "As a champion of government > > > > > > > accountability > > > > > > > and transparency, Governor Palin was exercising an abundance of > > > > > > > caution to ensure that all state and personal business matters > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > being kept separate,"". > > > > > > > > So Palin has acknowledged using private email accounts, which she > > > > > > > MUST > > > > > > > do, because by law she can't use her official email account for > > > > > > > personal emails. Note that this is NOT acknowledging the use of > > > > > > > private email accounts for government business. > > > > > > > > Somehow I suspect if these charges were against Obama you would be > > > > > > > correctly interpreting what has been written, but because this is > > > > > > > against Palin you see what you want to see. > > > > > > > > On Dec 13, 3:27 pm, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sarah Palin > > > > > > > > Palin Sued for Private E-Mails About State Business > > > > > > > > By Matthew Mosk > > > > > > > > ANCHORAGE -- In a lawsuit filed in Alaska Superior Court, a > > > > > > > > Republican > > > > > > > > activist seeks to force Gov. Sarah Palin to produce copies of > > > > > > > > official > > > > > > > > correspondence she sent and received on private e-mail accounts. > > > > > > > > > Andrée McLeod filed the suit Wednesday and publicized it in a > > > > > > > > news > > > > > > > > release today. "Rather than using her state e-mail account, > > > > > > > > throughout > > > > > > > > her two-year tenure as Governor of Alaska, defendant Sarah > > > > > > > > Palin, as a > > > > > > > > matter of routine, has used, and, on information and belief, > > > > > > > > continues > > > > > > > > to use, (at least) two private e-mail accounts... to conduct > > > > > > > > official > > > > > > > > business of the State of Alaska," the suit alleges. > > > > > > > > > The suit is the latest front in a battle McLeod is waging over > > > > > > > > Palin's > > > > > > > > e-mail. In June, she filed an open-records request and received > > > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > boxes of redacted e-mails. But more than 1,100 others were > > > > > > > > withheld, > > > > > > > > an action Palin justified by claiming executive privilege. > > > > > > > > McLeod > > > > > > > > appealed that claim last month before going to court last week. > > > > > > > > > McLeod has questioned whether Palin was using private e-mail > > > > > > > > accounts > > > > > > > > to conduct state business in a manner that would skirt > > > > > > > > open-records > > > > > > > > laws. In one notable e-mail, a Palin aide apologized for > > > > > > > > discussing > > > > > > > > state business on a public account. "Whoops!" Palin aide Frank > > > > > > > > Bailey > > > > > > > > wrote, after addressing an e-mail to the governor's official > > > > > > > > state > > > > > > > > address. "Frank, this is not the Governor's personal account," a > > > > > > > > secretary reminded him. > > > > > > > > > A spokeswoman for the McCain-Palin campaign has acknowledged > > > > > > > > the use > > > > > > > > of private accounts. "As a champion of government > > > > > > > > accountability and > > > > > > > > transparency, Governor Palin was exercising an abundance of > > > > > > > > caution to > > > > > > > > ensure that all state and personal business matters were being > > > > > > > > kept > > > > > > > > separate," Meghan Stapleton said recently. "Governor Palin is > > > > > > > > committed to serving with the highest regard toward ethics." > > > > > > > > > But McLeod said she believes the Palin administration fostered a > > > > > > > > "culture of corruption" in Alaska where neither she nor her top > > > > > > > > aides > > > > > > > > were accountable to rules of transparency in government. > > > > > > > > > "The extent of the use of these private e-mail accounts > > > > > > > > demonstrates > > > > > > > > the extent of deception that the governor is operating under," > > > > > > > > McLeod > > > > > > > > said in an interview today. "The process is corrupt. The overall > > > > > > > > question now becomes, how did it become so broken that nobody > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > tell her, 'Don't do that.' That's why I'm going to the courts." > > > > > > > > > On Dec 13, 3:20 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Come back when I find anything you made up? Geez, that > > > > > > > > > wasn't > > > > > > > > > difficult. > > > > > > > > > > You made up ==> 'Palin used private email accounts for > > > > > > > > > government > > > > > > > > > business'. Well, you didn't make it up, but you have > > > > > > > > > repeated it. > > > > > > > > > > You've been given ample opportunity to prove she did it. As > > > > > > > > > expected, > > > > > > > > > you did not provide any links. Lots of cheap talk but you > > > > > > > > > can't ever > > > > > > > > > seem to prove a damn thing. > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 13, 2:23 pm, mike 532 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > come on back when you can find anything i made up sparky ! > > > > > > > > > > mean while like it or not palin used private emails for > > > > > > > > > > government > > > > > > > > > > business . > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 13, 2:05 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > > > > > > > Considering your penchant for making stuff up, I'm not > > > > > > > > > > > counting on you > > > > > > > > > > > using that information any time soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > As for there being "no question that palin used yahoo and > > > > > > > > > > > other email > > > > > > > > > > > accounts for government emails".. perhaps you have no > > > > > > > > > > > question, but > > > > > > > > > > > then again, you'll accept any story as long as it's > > > > > > > > > > > anti-Palin, so I'm > > > > > > > > > > > not surprised. > > > > > > > > > > > > Fact is, I did Google this and it came up empty. I've > > > > > > > > > > > searched for > > > > > > > > > > > quotes, I've searched for charges, I've searched for > > > > > > > > > > > copies of emails > > > > > > > > > > > that would prove this and all I can find are people such > > > > > > > > > > > as you making > > > > > > > > > > > the accusation but never substantiating it. I guess you > > > > > > > > > > > guys think if > > > > > > > > > > > you repeat the lie often enough it will make it true. > > > > > > > > > > > > You might want to try employing > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
