i own two houses and used the address from my old house for over ten
years before i finally changed it at the DMV

On Dec 18, 8:50 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote:
> True. There is one place I lived that had no physical mailbox so I
> used a p.o. box. Since I didn't plan to stay there long, I continued
> to use my previous address on my drivers license. I'm sure that
> happens a lot.
>
> On Dec 18, 8:35 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > about the only record would be at motor vehicles and how many people
> > change their address every time they move ?
>
> > On Dec 18, 8:29 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I'm just wondering if there is some "official record" somewhere of the
> > > places I've rented over the years (in college, etc). Since I always
> > > rented from private owners, I'd be very surprised if there was any
> > > record of it that exists today.
>
> > > On Dec 18, 8:27 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > facts confuse mark he needs the rush / loofah boy propaganda to
> > > > operate . it would never acure to him that this address is likely an
> > > > apartment house because property values make owning a single family
> > > > home very expensive .
>
> > > > On Dec 18, 8:20 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > What kind of record do you expect to find? If his mother was renting,
> > > > > there is likely no record at all of her living there.
>
> > > > > On Dec 18, 6:55 am, mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > do pay attention people.  there is no record that barry ever lived 
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > the address shown on his birth announcement.  and I do so enjoy wc
> > > > > > dismissing this lady's statement as coming from some old woman with 
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > bad memory.  kinda shows a predisposed attitude that all old people
> > > > > > have Alzheimer's.  shame on you.
>
> > > > > > On Dec 18, 3:20 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > where in the world did you the idea that this guy talked likea he 
> > > > > > > came
> > > > > > > from England ?
>
> > > > > > > On Dec 17, 11:09 pm, "fred frederico" <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Waikiki was just about big enough to call a village in the 60s. 
> > > > > > > > They would
> > > > > > > > all remember a British accent African with a white woman. I 
> > > > > > > > support Obama, I
> > > > > > > > support open honesty more and he has not touched this easily 
> > > > > > > > solved  issue.
>
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:04 PM, wncs 
> > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Depends on how cosmopolitan the area is. You'll get different 
> > > > > > > > > answers
> > > > > > > > > in Quitman, GA than you would in NYC.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:41 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Oh ??? Ask around in ANY neighborhood you choose... even 
> > > > > > > > > > today and
> > > > > > > > > > find out how many British accent Africans (NOT African 
> > > > > > > > > > Americans, he
> > > > > > > > > > was not one) have ever lived next door. I am quite sure you 
> > > > > > > > > > will get
> > > > > > > > > > DEFINITE answers one way or the other.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 2:26 pm, Florida Cracker 532 
> > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > " quite the unusual combo in that time "
> > > > > > > > > > > i don't believe that was true of hawaii
> > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 11:58 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE 
> > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Mike.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > What difference does that make to a reference about 
> > > > > > > > > > > > remembering a
> > > > > > > > > > > > mixed race couple in the 60s regardless of where you 
> > > > > > > > > > > > lived in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > States. Further, i gather from the "witnesses" or 
> > > > > > > > > > > > neighbors name that
> > > > > > > > > > > > she is native and for sure would remember the Haole and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Colored
> > > > > > > > > > > > man.... quite the unusual combo in that time.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 9:03 am, Florida Cracker 532 
> > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > how long did you live in Hawaii ?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:00 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > WNCS,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would certainly remember a mixed race couple in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 60's, and
> > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > would anyone I have ever met from the states.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And yes, I can name every neighbor within a mile of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > me in the 60s
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the States and within 1/2 a mile from Germany wih 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > absolute
> > > > > > > > > certainty.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 5:59 am, wncs <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, they are basing their investigation on the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fact that some
> > > > > > > > > old lady
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't remember the family? LMAO! Can you name 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every single
> > > > > > > > > family
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you were living next to in 1961?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brace yourselves, Dems, we're going to hear this 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bellyaching
> > > > > > > > > for eight
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > years, it seems.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 6:33 am, mark 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A private investigator has released to WND an 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > affidavit that
> > > > > > > > > casts
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doubt on whether Barack Obama's family lived at 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the address
> > > > > > > > > listed in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the published notice of his birth in 1961.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge Baro was hired by WND to investigate 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issues related to
> > > > > > > > > Obama's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth amid allegations the Democrat
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does not meet the Constitution's requirement 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that a president
> > > > > > > > > be a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "natural born citizen."
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro's affidavit documents an interview his 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > staff conducted
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beatrice Arakaki, who has lived at 6075 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kalanianaole Highway
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Honolulu since before Obama was born.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The affadivit is at the center of a federal 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lawsuit filed
> > > > > > > > > prior to the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > November election in Hattiesburg, Miss., before 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U.S. District
> > > > > > > > > Judge
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keith Starrett. The suit is one of several yet 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to be
> > > > > > > > > adjudicated that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > calls for proof of Obama being a "natural born 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > citizen" as
> > > > > > > > > required by
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Constitution.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Hawaii, WND was able to locate at the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Honolulu public
> > > > > > > > > library
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > microfilm of a notice placed in the Sunday 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Advertiser Aug.
> > > > > > > > > 13, 1961.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The announcement in the "Births, Marriages, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Death" section
> > > > > > > > > read: "Mr.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hwy., son, Aug.
> > > > > > > > > 4."
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arakaki told Baro's investigators she had no 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recollection of
> > > > > > > > > Obama
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being born or of the family living next door 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having a black
> > > > > > > > > child born
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to a white mother.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro sent a team of investigators to Honolulu 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to explore
> > > > > > > > > records
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regarding current residents of Kalanianaole 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Highway and to
> > > > > > > > > track down
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > residents back to 1961.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro's investigators were unable to locate any 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > current or
> > > > > > > > > past
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resident of Kalanianaole Highway who could 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recall Obama or
> > > > > > > > > his family
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living at the address listed in the Sunday 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Advertiser
> > > > > > > > > announcement.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro also sent investigators to the newspaper 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > offices to
> > > > > > > > > examine
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > files, but the Advertiser could not confirm who 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actually
> > > > > > > > > placed the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ad.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > According to Baro's affidavit, Beatrice Arakaki 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > affirmed she
> > > > > > > > > was a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neighbor of the address listed. She has lived 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at her current
> > > > > > > > > residence
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 6075 Kalanianaole Highway from before 1961 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to the present.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreover, Arakaki said she believed that when 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obama lived
> > > > > > > > > with the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dunhams, his grandparents, the family address 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was in Waikiki,
> > > > > > > > > not on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kalanianaole Highway.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro was able to determine the previous owners 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the
> > > > > > > > > residence at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6085 Kalanianaole Highway – the alleged address 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of Obama's
> > > > > > > > > parents
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when he was born – were Orland S. and Thelma S. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Young)
> > > > > > > > > Lefforge, both
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of whom are deceased.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro's affidavit also documents that the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Certification of
> > > > > > > > > Live Birth
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that Obama posted on his campaign website is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not the original
> > > > > > > > > "long
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > form" birth certificate issued in 1961 by the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > obstetrician or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > physician giving birth and the hospital where 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the baby was
> > > > > > > > > born.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro's investigators learned that a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Certificate of Hawaiian
> > > > > > > > > Birth
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Program" established in 1911 during the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > territorial era and
> > > > > > > > > terminated
>
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