this all boils down to one simple fact. he has produced various "birth certificates" all proven to be fake. all he has had to do was produce the real one and this issue would be put to rest. the fact he refuses to do so speaks volumes.
On Dec 18, 11:34 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, I read it. It was turned down because there was no offer of > proof, NOT because Barack has shown anyone a birth certificate. > > MOST cases that go before the court are turned away for procedural > problems. It has nothing to do with the veracity of the claim made. > > It is a simple fax asking that the Vault Copy be released....... Why > won't he do it ?? All of this would go away. I personally believe him > and his campaign. However only ONE piece of paper that exists to make > that proof/claim good and he will not come forward with it. > > Kinda like posting with a bogus link. > > On Dec 18, 10:21 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Did you read this part? > > > "The Supreme Court has turned down an emergency appeal from a New > > Jersey man who says President-elect Barack Obama is ineligible to be > > president because he was a British subject at birth. The court did not > > comment on its order Monday rejecting the call by Leo Donofrio of East > > Brunswick, N.J., to intervene in the presidential election." > > > On Dec 18, 11:18 am, "fred frederico" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I have read the "direct quotes". this story lists the reporters > > > interpretation of what was said only. > > > > The direct quote was simply that the internet offered copy was from the > > > state and that a "vault copy" exists. They have never commented on the > > > origins of the "vault copy". > > > > The vault copy has all the info pertinent to the birth. > > > > All that has been publicly offered is basically a COLB which in Hawaii is > > > a > > > cliff note version and can be issued to anyone regardless of where they > > > are > > > born. That ststute has been listed many times. > > > > On 12/18/08, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/08/obama-birth-certificate-c_n_... > > > > > On Dec 18, 10:54 am, "fred frederico" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > They have yet to rule on the certificate. It does NOT meet the > > > > > standard > > > > IN > > > > > Hawaii for state assistance, Just the vault copy does. for all the > > > > > hoopla > > > > no > > > > > none in the Hawaiin Gov. has said or confirmed anything except that > > > > > one > > > > > exists. > > > > > > On 12/18/08, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Is there any evidence to suggest he was born on a ship? > > > > > > Once again, the state of Hawaii has a birth certificate on record. > > > > > > If > > > > > > it's good enough to satisfy the Supreme Court, it's good enough for > > > > > > me. > > > > > > > On Dec 18, 9:15 am, margareth <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Keep in mind that at one time Hawaii was once a British colony. > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > are probably plenty of people with British/Anzac,/colonial accents > > > > > > > still there. But here is another red hering for you, would it be > > > > > > > possible that he was born on a ship of American registry, and > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > that have made him an American born. In 1960, there were still > > > > > > > relatively cheap ocean liners which carried passengers across the > > > > > > > oceans. Hawaii was an important port of call. As a rule, a ship in > > > > > > > international waters follows the laws of the country of registry. > > > > > > > An > > > > > > > American mother, who lived in a country as unsettled as Kenya was > > > > then > > > > > > > would almost certainly opt for going home, if at all possible, > > > > > > > just > > > > to > > > > > > > make certain of her child's nationality. > > > > > > > > On Dec 18, 3:20 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > where in the world did you the idea that this guy talked likea > > > > > > > > he > > > > came > > > > > > > > from England ? > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 11:09 pm, "fred frederico" <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Waikiki was just about big enough to call a village in the > > > > > > > > > 60s. > > > > They > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > all remember a British accent African with a white woman. I > > > > support > > > > > > Obama, I > > > > > > > > > support open honesty more and he has not touched this easily > > > > > > solved issue. > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:04 PM, wncs > > > > > > > > > <[email protected] > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Depends on how cosmopolitan the area is. You'll get > > > > > > > > > > different > > > > > > answers > > > > > > > > > > in Quitman, GA than you would in NYC. > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:41 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Oh ??? Ask around in ANY neighborhood you choose... even > > > > today > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > find out how many British accent Africans (NOT African > > > > Americans, > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > was not one) have ever lived next door. I am quite sure > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > will > > > > > > get > > > > > > > > > > > DEFINITE answers one way or the other. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 2:26 pm, Florida Cracker 532 < > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > " quite the unusual combo in that time " > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't believe that was true of hawaii > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 11:58 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What difference does that make to a reference about > > > > > > remembering a > > > > > > > > > > > > > mixed race couple in the 60s regardless of where you > > > > lived in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > States. Further, i gather from the "witnesses" or > > > > neighbors > > > > > > name that > > > > > > > > > > > > > she is native and for sure would remember the Haole > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > Colored > > > > > > > > > > > > > man.... quite the unusual combo in that time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 9:03 am, Florida Cracker 532 < > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how long did you live in Hawaii ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:00 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE < > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WNCS, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would certainly remember a mixed race couple in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > 60's, and > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would anyone I have ever met from the states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And yes, I can name every neighbor within a mile > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > me in > > > > > > the 60s > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the States and within 1/2 a mile from Germany wih > > > > > > absolute > > > > > > > > > > certainty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 5:59 am, wncs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, they are basing their investigation on the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > that some > > > > > > > > > > old lady > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't remember the family? LMAO! Can you name > > > > every > > > > > > single > > > > > > > > > > family > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you were living next to in 1961? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brace yourselves, Dems, we're going to hear this > > > > > > bellyaching > > > > > > > > > > for eight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > years, it seems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 6:33 am, mark < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A private investigator has released to WND an > > > > > > affidavit that > > > > > > > > > > casts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doubt on whether Barack Obama's family lived > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > the > > > > > > address > > > > > > > > > > listed in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the published notice of his birth in 1961. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge Baro was hired by WND to investigate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issues > > > > > > related to > > > > > > > > > > Obama's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth amid allegations the Democrat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does not meet the Constitution's requirement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > a > > > > > > president > > > > > > > > > > be a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "natural born citizen." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro's affidavit documents an interview his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > staff > > > > > > conducted > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beatrice Arakaki, who has lived at 6075 > > > > Kalanianaole > > > > > > Highway > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Honolulu since before Obama was born. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The affadivit is at the center of a federal > > > > lawsuit > > > > > > filed > > > > > > > > > > prior to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > November election in Hattiesburg, Miss., > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before > > > > U.S. > > > > > > District > > > > > > > > > > Judge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keith Starrett. The suit is one of several > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yet to > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > adjudicated that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > calls for proof of Obama being a "natural born > > > > > > citizen" as > > > > > > > > > > required by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Constitution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Hawaii, WND was able to locate at the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Honolulu > > > > > > public > > > > > > > > > > library > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > microfilm of a notice placed in the Sunday > > > > Advertiser > > > > > > Aug. > > > > > > > > > > 13, 1961. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The announcement in the "Births, Marriages, > > > > Death" > > > > > > section > > > > > > > > > > read: "Mr. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hwy., > > > > > > son, Aug. > > > > > > > > > > 4." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arakaki told Baro's investigators she had no > > > > > > recollection of > > > > > > > > > > Obama > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being born or of the family living next door > > > > having a > > > > > > black > > > > > > > > > > child born > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to a white mother. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro sent a team of investigators to Honolulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > explore > > ... > > read more ยป --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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