Another thing about the accuracy of "records"...my grandfather died in 1977 but my Grandmother continued to live in their house until very recently. All these years since 1977, my grandfather's name is still listed in the phone book with that number and address. She just never bothered to change it over to her name. I guess by those "records", my Grandfather is still alive and living at that address, eh?
On Dec 18, 8:54 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> wrote: > i own two houses and used the address from my old house for over ten > years before i finally changed it at the DMV > > On Dec 18, 8:50 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > True. There is one place I lived that had no physical mailbox so I > > used a p.o. box. Since I didn't plan to stay there long, I continued > > to use my previous address on my drivers license. I'm sure that > > happens a lot. > > > On Dec 18, 8:35 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > about the only record would be at motor vehicles and how many people > > > change their address every time they move ? > > > > On Dec 18, 8:29 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I'm just wondering if there is some "official record" somewhere of the > > > > places I've rented over the years (in college, etc). Since I always > > > > rented from private owners, I'd be very surprised if there was any > > > > record of it that exists today. > > > > > On Dec 18, 8:27 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > facts confuse mark he needs the rush / loofah boy propaganda to > > > > > operate . it would never acure to him that this address is likely an > > > > > apartment house because property values make owning a single family > > > > > home very expensive . > > > > > > On Dec 18, 8:20 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > What kind of record do you expect to find? If his mother was > > > > > > renting, > > > > > > there is likely no record at all of her living there. > > > > > > > On Dec 18, 6:55 am, mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > do pay attention people. there is no record that barry ever > > > > > > > lived at > > > > > > > the address shown on his birth announcement. and I do so enjoy wc > > > > > > > dismissing this lady's statement as coming from some old woman > > > > > > > with a > > > > > > > bad memory. kinda shows a predisposed attitude that all old > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > have Alzheimer's. shame on you. > > > > > > > > On Dec 18, 3:20 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > where in the world did you the idea that this guy talked likea > > > > > > > > he came > > > > > > > > from England ? > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 11:09 pm, "fred frederico" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Waikiki was just about big enough to call a village in the > > > > > > > > > 60s. They would > > > > > > > > > all remember a British accent African with a white woman. I > > > > > > > > > support Obama, I > > > > > > > > > support open honesty more and he has not touched this easily > > > > > > > > > solved issue. > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:04 PM, wncs > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Depends on how cosmopolitan the area is. You'll get > > > > > > > > > > different answers > > > > > > > > > > in Quitman, GA than you would in NYC. > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:41 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Oh ??? Ask around in ANY neighborhood you choose... even > > > > > > > > > > > today and > > > > > > > > > > > find out how many British accent Africans (NOT African > > > > > > > > > > > Americans, he > > > > > > > > > > > was not one) have ever lived next door. I am quite sure > > > > > > > > > > > you will get > > > > > > > > > > > DEFINITE answers one way or the other. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 2:26 pm, Florida Cracker 532 > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > " quite the unusual combo in that time " > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't believe that was true of hawaii > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 11:58 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What difference does that make to a reference about > > > > > > > > > > > > > remembering a > > > > > > > > > > > > > mixed race couple in the 60s regardless of where you > > > > > > > > > > > > > lived in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > States. Further, i gather from the "witnesses" or > > > > > > > > > > > > > neighbors name that > > > > > > > > > > > > > she is native and for sure would remember the Haole > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Colored > > > > > > > > > > > > > man.... quite the unusual combo in that time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 9:03 am, Florida Cracker 532 > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how long did you live in Hawaii ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:00 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WNCS, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would certainly remember a mixed race couple in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 60's, and > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would anyone I have ever met from the states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And yes, I can name every neighbor within a mile > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of me in the 60s > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the States and within 1/2 a mile from Germany wih > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > absolute > > > > > > > > > > certainty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 5:59 am, wncs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, they are basing their investigation on the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fact that some > > > > > > > > > > old lady > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't remember the family? LMAO! Can you name > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every single > > > > > > > > > > family > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you were living next to in 1961? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brace yourselves, Dems, we're going to hear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this bellyaching > > > > > > > > > > for eight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > years, it seems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 6:33 am, mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A private investigator has released to WND an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > affidavit that > > > > > > > > > > casts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doubt on whether Barack Obama's family lived > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the address > > > > > > > > > > listed in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the published notice of his birth in 1961. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge Baro was hired by WND to investigate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issues related to > > > > > > > > > > Obama's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth amid allegations the Democrat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does not meet the Constitution's requirement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that a president > > > > > > > > > > be a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "natural born citizen." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro's affidavit documents an interview his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > staff conducted > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beatrice Arakaki, who has lived at 6075 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kalanianaole Highway > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Honolulu since before Obama was born. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The affadivit is at the center of a federal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lawsuit filed > > > > > > > > > > prior to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > November election in Hattiesburg, Miss., > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before U.S. District > > > > > > > > > > Judge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keith Starrett. The suit is one of several > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yet to be > > > > > > > > > > adjudicated that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > calls for proof of Obama being a "natural > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > born citizen" as > > > > > > > > > > required by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Constitution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Hawaii, WND was able to locate at the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Honolulu public > > > > > > > > > > library > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > microfilm of a notice placed in the Sunday > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Advertiser Aug. > > > > > > > > > > 13, 1961. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The announcement in the "Births, Marriages, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Death" section > > > > > > > > > > read: "Mr. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hwy., son, Aug. > > > > > > > > > > 4." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arakaki told Baro's investigators she had no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recollection of > > > > > > > > > > Obama > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being born or of the family living next door > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having a black > > > > > > > > > > child born > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to a white mother. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro sent a team of investigators to Honolulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to explore > > > > > > > > > > records > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regarding current residents of Kalanianaole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Highway and to > > > > > > > > > > track down > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > residents back to 1961. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro's investigators were unable to locate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any current or > > > > > > > > > > past > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resident of Kalanianaole Highway who could > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recall Obama or > > > > > > > > > > his family > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > living at the address listed in the Sunday > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Advertiser > > > > > > > > > > announcement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro also sent investigators to the newspaper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > offices to > > > > > > > > > > examine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > files, but the Advertiser could not confirm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who actually > > > > > > > > > > placed the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > According to Baro's affidavit, Beatrice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arakaki affirmed she > > > > > > > > > > was a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neighbor of the address listed. She has lived > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at her current > > > > > > > > > > residence > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of 6075 Kalanianaole Highway from before 1961 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to the present. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreover, Arakaki said she believed that when > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obama lived > > > > > > > > > > with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dunhams, his grandparents, the family address > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was in Waikiki, > > > > > > > > > > not on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kalanianaole Highway. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro was able to determine the previous > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > owners of the > > > > > > > > > > residence at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6085 Kalanianaole Highway – the alleged > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > address of Obama's > > > > > > > > > > parents > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when he was born – were Orland S. and Thelma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > S. (Young) > > > > > > > > > > Lefforge, both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of whom are deceased. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro's affidavit also documents that the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Certification of > > > > > > > > > > Live Birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that Obama posted on his campaign > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
