Hi Mrs R !!! I agree with governors filling vacancies about as much as I agree wth the "War Poweres Act" and "Free Speech Zones".
However those laws have been in the constitutions of the various states for (in NY"s case) centuries. It is the office of an "elected" official. Yes, I vote in the US, Arizona, Maricopa County, Tempe elections as well as Germany / Kreiss-Bingen, Mainz and Costa Rica, Puntarenas, Bahia-Ballena elections. The ability to do so in so many areas is why I would not ever consider running for elected office in any of them... simply not fair as my bias would show, I'm sure (though I'm not sure what that bias would be). Pick away at the brain. I love helping the honestly inquisitive. On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Mrs. Rabbit <[email protected]> wrote: > > No Mark, I do not live in NY, but my Grandmother, two uncles, aunt and > many cousins do live in NY. > And yes, they should be able to vote for whom they would like to hold > the seat. They will have to live with what is given to them, like a > monarchy, they will be told who will have that seat until 2010. Like > I have said before, the law needs to be change so the people can vote > in all elections. There should be NO Appointment, only elections. > Let the true voice of the people be heard. > > Do you vote in the US elections? > > btw, it's good to see you. Been meaning to shoot you an email, the > oldest rabbit is talking senior trip! Thought I would pick your > brain, if ya don't mind. :o) You helped out so well on the food > project last year! Thanks! > > > > > On Dec 29, 4:03 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: >> Mrs R, >> >> She will not be a breath away from the oval office. She will NOT >> represent you. She would represent the State of New York in the >> Senate, and frankly (and legally) it is a question to be answered by >> the Constitution of that particular state alone. Who gets the seat is >> NOT a direct national issue. You are not from New York, are you ?? >> >> On Dec 29, 2:22 pm, "Mrs. Rabbit" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Stop it Mike, you make my sides hurt from LOL @ U! >> >> > I was just pointing it out that her experience wasn't being attacked >> > such as Palin's was. No need to answer, I already know it's because >> > she is in favor with the Dem party. Not because she is *REALLY* >> > qualified! >> >> > :o) >> >> > On Dec 29, 2:33 pm, "mike [never forget] 532" >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > you guys said experience didn't matter when you picked palin so we >> > > took you at your word . >> >> > > On Dec 29, 1:26 pm, "Mrs. Rabbit" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > Read the articles, she wants to be appointed now. She can't wait and >> > > > RUN for the office. If an appointment is the only means to fill such >> > > > a position, then by all means, appoint someone with EXPERIENCE, not >> > > > just *deep political ties* and a family curse over their head. >> >> > > > Where is all the outrage of lack of experience from the Dems on this >> > > > one? >> >> > > > On Dec 29, 10:53 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > "I never implied it was *just the dems*, spare me the drama. " >> >> > > > > "Why does Caroline Kennedy get a free pass from the Dems? " >> >> > > > > It's not a free pass, it's the way things are done routinely. >> >> > > > > ***************** >> >> > > > > "It is tacky to say the least for Kennedy to even announce she >> > > > > is seeking appointment but states she will not run for office." >> >> > > > > Where do you get that? >> > > > > " Asked whether she would run for the office if Gov. David Paterson >> > > > > doesn't appoint her, she replied: >> > > > > "Absolutely."http://www.progressiveinvolvement.com/progressive_involvement/2008/12... >> >> > > > > On Dec 29, 10:46 am, "Mrs. Rabbit" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > I never implied it was *just the dems*, spare me the drama. >> >> > > > > > It is the law and to prevent appointment (monarchy style >> > > > > > government), >> > > > > > the law should be changed to allow elections in situtations such as >> > > > > > this. It is tacky to say the least for Kennedy to even announce >> > > > > > she >> > > > > > is seeking appointment but states she will not run for office. >> > > > > > Says >> > > > > > much about her character, or should I say, lack of? >> >> > > > > > Where is the outrage from the Dems about her lack of *experience* >> > > > > > in >> > > > > > politics? Her *strong* political ties? Which, btw, scare me to >> > > > > > death...maybe it's the whole family curse thingy. Her experience >> > > > > > as a >> > > > > > mother and community volunteer are two experiences she list and is >> > > > > > being ignored by the dems. Why is that? >> >> > > > > > On Dec 29, 10:24 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > So are you proposing special elections for vacated seats? >> > > > > > > I'm not sure I agree with appointments but right now there >> > > > > > > doesn't >> > > > > > > seem to be a better way. But, it is the law, and it's not just >> > > > > > > Dems >> > > > > > > that do it. >> >> > > > > > > On Dec 29, 9:49 am, "Mrs. Rabbit" <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > stab....not stap Why use spell check, when we have you? =D >> >> > > > > > > > Doesn't matter if the seat is being vacated in the middle of a >> > > > > > > > term or >> > > > > > > > not, the law should be changed to prevent appointment. >> > > > > > > > Elected to a >> > > > > > > > seat by the people should be the only way one should hold a >> > > > > > > > public >> > > > > > > > office. Maybe one day American will see that and change from >> > > > > > > > the >> > > > > > > > monarchy ways of old. >> >> > > > > > > > On Dec 29, 9:39 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > "Why not run for office and get ELECTED. Why even ask for an >> > > > > > > > > appointment to a seat, " >> > > > > > > > > Because the seat is being vacated in th middle of a term, >> > > > > > > > > and there >> > > > > > > > > is no election. The governor of the state has sole authority >> > > > > > > > > to >> > > > > > > > > appoint a successor to the seat, who will hold the office >> > > > > > > > > until the >> > > > > > > > > next election in 2010. This is the way it's done by both >> > > > > > > > > Republicans >> > > > > > > > > and Democrats, by law. >> >> > > > > > > > > What is a stap? >> >> > > > > > > > > On Dec 29, 9:25 am, "Mrs. Rabbit" >> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > Mornin' Wncs, >> >> > > > > > > > > > I'll take a stap at that question for rigsy for $200.00 >> > > > > > > > > > please. >> >> > > > > > > > > > With all of her experience as a mother, school fund >> > > > > > > > > > raising and her >> > > > > > > > > > *deep political ties* Caroline Kennedy is asking Clinton >> > > > > > > > > > for the >> > > > > > > > > > appointment. In other words, she is wanting it handed to >> > > > > > > > > > her. Why? >> > > > > > > > > > Why not run for office and get ELECTED. Why even ask for >> > > > > > > > > > an >> > > > > > > > > > appointment to a seat, when voting should be the only way >> > > > > > > > > > one holds a >> > > > > > > > > > public office? (Appointment to me is more like a Monarchy) >> > > > > > > > > > Her >> > > > > > > > > > bloodline shouldn't excuse her from having to run for >> > > > > > > > > > office and her >> > > > > > > > > > experience as a mother, community volunteering and Kennedy >> > > > > > > > > > bloodline >> > > > > > > > > > doesn't quailify her for the job. The Dems nailed Palin >> > > > > > > > > > to the cross >> > > > > > > > > > for using her experience as a mother and school volunteer >> > > > > > > > > > as part of >> > > > > > > > > > her resume`. Why does Caroline Kennedy get a free pass >> > > > > > > > > > from the >> > > > > > > > > > Dems? >> >> > > > > > > > > > :o) >> >> > > > > > > > > > On Dec 29, 8:06 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > Let's apply your standards to another president, shall >> > > > > > > > > > > we? This time, >> > > > > > > > > > > rather than the complete failure Bush, we will apply >> > > > > > > > > > > your criteria to >> > > > > > > > > > > someone who is considered (by some anyway) to be one of >> > > > > > > > > > > our greatest >> > > > > > > > > > > presidents: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > "One of my favorite lessons in the world of overcoming >> > > > > > > > > > > failures and >> > > > > > > > > > > understanding the value of persistence is what can be >> > > > > > > > > > > learned from >> > > > > > > > > > > looking at the life of Abraham Lincoln. Born into >> > > > > > > > > > > poverty, Mr. Lincoln >> > > > > > > > > > > was faced with defeat throughout most of his life. He >> > > > > > > > > > > twice failed in >> > > > > > > > > > > business, lost eight different elections and suffered a >> > > > > > > > > > > nervous >> > > > > > > > > > > breakdown. The following bullet points represent >> > > > > > > > > > > Lincoln's path to the >> > > > > > > > > > > White House: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > 1816: Lincoln's family lost their home and he had to >> > > > > > > > > > > quit school to >> > > > > > > > > > > support them. >> > > > > > > > > > > 1818: His mother passed away. >> > > > > > > > > > > 1831: He failed in business. >> > > > > > > > > > > 1832: He ran for state legislature and lost, also lost >> > > > > > > > > > > his job, and >> > > > > > > > > > > while he wanted to go to law school he couldn't get in. >> > > > > > > > > > > 1833: He borrowed money to start a new business and was >> > > > > > > > > > > bankrupt by >> > > > > > > > > > > the end of the year. He spent the next 17 years paying >> > > > > > > > > > > off the debt. >> > > > > > > > > > > 1834: He ran for state legislature again and this time >> > > > > > > > > > > he won. >> > > > > > > > > > > 1835: He was engaged to be married and his fiance died. >> > > > > > > > > > > 1836: Mr. Lincoln suffered a total nervous breakdown and >> > > > > > > > > > > spent six >> > > > > > > > > > > months in bed. >> > > > > > > > > > > 1838: He sought to become speaker of the state >> > > > > > > > > > > legislature and was >> > > > > > > > > > > again defeated. >> > > > > > > > > > > 1840: He sought to become elector and was defeated. >> > > > > > > > > > > 1843: Lincoln ran for Congress and lost. >> > > > > > > > > > > 1846: He ran for Congress again and this time he won. >> > > > > > > > > > > 1848: Lincoln lost his re-election race for Congress. >> > > > > > > > > > > 1849: He sought the position of land officer in his home >> > > > > > > > > > > state and was >> > > > > > > > > > > turned down. >> > > > > > > > > > > 1854: Lincoln ran for the US Senate and lost. >> > > > > > > > > > > 1856: He sought the Vice-Presidential nomination and >> > > > > > > > > > > lost receiving >> > > > > > > > > > > less than 100 votes. >> > > > > > > > > > > 1858: He ran yet again for the US Senate and lost. >> > > > > > > > > > > 1860: Abraham Lincoln was elected President of the >> > > > > > > > > > > United States. " >> >> > > > > > > > > > >http://www.n2growth.com/blog/fear-failure-risk-and-success >> >> > > > > > > > > > > It just goes to show that bloodline means nothing, and >> > > > > > > > > > > even a big >> > > > > > > > > > > "nobody" can be influential and successful. Your comment >> > > > > > > > > > > about Obama >> > > > > > > > > > > being a nobody in comparison to Bush's political legacy >> > > > > > > > > > > suggests you >> > > > > > > > > > > might be happier under a monarch rather than a democracy. >> > > > > > > > > > > By the way, how do you feel about Caroline Kennedy >> > > > > > > > > > > seeking a senate >> > > > > > > > > > > seat? After all, her family has had a political >> > > > > > > > > > > presence, so she must >> > > > > > > > > > > be qualified, right? >> >> > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 28, 10:10 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > What bloodline? You mean someone who never built a >> > > > > > > > > > > > company? Had >> > > > > > > > > > > > executive experience? Served in the military? Didn't >> > > > > > > > > > > > use the System? >> > > > > > > > > > > > Gravitate to Illinois? Dangerous friends and ministers? >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 28, 8:52 pm, wncs <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't that what America is all about... letting the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > people pick their >> > > > > > > > > > > > > leader rather than allowing bloodline to determine >> > > > > > > > > > > > > it? I believe >> > > > > > > > > > > > > that's one of the reasons we split from England. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ain't it great? >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 28, 9:48 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > At least the Bush family existed in American >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > politics. 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