Cash and food are methods of control. On Jan 21, 1:49�am, "liberal mike532 !" <[email protected]> wrote: > " The power of Hamas and Hezbollah are its social/religious controls > over the Palestinians." > i think it is more support than control > On Jan 20, 7:23�pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The power of Hamas and Hezbollah are its social/religious controls > > over the Palestinians. The Lebanese government placed strict rules > > over the Palestinian refugees it was forced to accept.// On the other > > hand, the second richest man in the world is Carlos Slim (though he is > > chubby)- a Lebanese/Mexican who is bailing out the NYTimes. > > > On Jan 20, 12:09 am, "liberal mike532 �!" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > not at all ! you are blinded by prejudice to the facts of the > > > situation . > > > > On Jan 19, 5:06 pm, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > You have placed the horse in front of the cart once again... > > > > > On Jan 19, 2:25 pm, "liberal mike532 !" <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > sure as soon as the jews stop commiting war crimes > > > > > > On Jan 19, 9:31 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Then focus your ire on Hamas' desire to fire rockets into Israel at > > > > > > palestinians, or to use suicide bombers... Furhter Hamas is > > > > > > failing at governing Gaza and as a government it is NOT a bunch of > > > > > > cute and cuddlely Freedom Fighters who kill folks you hate... > > > > > > > On Jan 19, 3:25 am, "liberal mike532 !" <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > i don't care about their religious or political doctrines or > > > > > > > differences . and in fact think there are no " good guys " in this > > > > > > > dispute ! my only concern is stopping the war crimes being > > > > > > > committed > > > > > > > by both parties . > > > > > > > > On Jan 18, 7:30 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > If you do not consider the various Intifadas, > > > > > > > > political/religious > > > > > > > > doctrines, constitutions calling for the end of Israel and the > > > > > > > > Jews a > > > > > > > > war crime, I would be interested in knowing what you do > > > > > > > > recognize as > > > > > > > > such? Hitler was also very clear about his intentions in Europe > > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > '30's as was the Ottoman Empire and other empires/nations. You > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > Saddam supporting suicide bombers with cash and the Saudis > > > > > > > > raising > > > > > > > > money for the Palestinians (also their ill-paid, ill-treated > > > > > > > > laborers) > > > > > > > > with telethons, Al-Jezeera, Egypt turning a blind eye to the > > > > > > > > tunnels > > > > > > > > that funnel rockets and weapons. The irony is that all these > > > > > > > > nations- > > > > > > > > including Iran- used Jews to their benefit during their > > > > > > > > histories. > > > > > > > > Britain defeated Napoleon with Jewish money- the Louisiana > > > > > > > > Purchase > > > > > > > > was small change. And that is just the beginning... > > > > > > > > > On Jan 18, 4:04 am, "liberal mike532 !" > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > the Jews must stop committing war crimes against the > > > > > > > > > Palestinians ! > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 18, 4:02 am, "Manoj Padhi" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/18/israel.gaza/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > At 2 a.m. Sunday, Israel > > > > > > > > > > <http://topics.cnn.com/topics/israel> declared a > > > > > > > > > > cease-fire in Gaza. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said > > > > > > > > > > Israel was > > > > > > > > > > prepared to respond if Hamas militants continue fighting in > > > > > > > > > > Gaza. > > > > > > > > > > > "If foes decide to continue to fight against us, then we > > > > > > > > > > will be ready and > > > > > > > > > > we shall consider ourselves justified in replying," he said. > > > > > > > > > > > Hamas leaders responded, saying they did not consider > > > > > > > > > > Olmert's declaration a > > > > > > > > > > cease-fire as long as Israeli troops remain in the > > > > > > > > > > Palestinian territory. > > > > > > > > > > > Where is the withdrawal ? Where is the victory of > > > > > > > > > > Palestinians ? > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps, Mr. Feroze Mithiborwala and Ghulam Muhammed have > > > > > > > > > > even latest > > > > > > > > > > information than CNN !! > > > > > > > > > > > How come HAMAs - *the mice*, win against mighty Israel - > > > > > > > > > > *The Elephant* ? > > > > > > > > > > Even after 1000+ losses, the moral of the jihadi mice is > > > > > > > > > > still high. Looks > > > > > > > > > > like they need few more hammar shots. > > > > > > > > > > > Please be assured that HAMAs can't smuggle rockets through > > > > > > > > > > Egypt as US will > > > > > > > > > > be supervising those transit routes;will also provide > > > > > > > > > > training to Egyptian > > > > > > > > > > police. When there is no more rocket left , How Hamas 'the > > > > > > > > > > mice' will play > > > > > > > > > > hide&seek jihad ? > > > > > > > > > > > Any way.. good luck to Hamas and its supporters as their > > > > > > > > > > luck has run out .. > > > > > > > > > > > Manoj Padhi > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 2:39 AM, ghulammuhammed3 > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > A W A M I B H A R A T > > > > > > > > > > > > The victory of the Palestinian Resistance & Israel's > > > > > > > > > > > unilateral > > > > > > > > > > > withdrawal > > > > > > > > > > > > The Palestinian Resistance has been victorious whilst the > > > > > > > > > > > Israeli Nazi army > > > > > > > > > > > withdraws in ignominy and global wrath. The People of > > > > > > > > > > > Gaza have withstood > > > > > > > > > > > the F-16's, Helicopter gunships, tanks, ships and > > > > > > > > > > > phosphorous attacks and > > > > > > > > > > > have done so with extraordinary courage. > > > > > > > > > > > > All that Israel achieved was the wanton destruction & > > > > > > > > > > > death of children and > > > > > > > > > > > civilians and residential neighbourhoods that included > > > > > > > > > > > schools, hospitals, > > > > > > > > > > > government buildings as well that of the United Nations. > > > > > > > > > > > More than 1200 dead > > > > > > > > > > > and 5000 seriously injured by the mercenary Israeli army. > > > > > > > > > > > > The resistance led by Hamas still stands in defiance and > > > > > > > > > > > the People of > > > > > > > > > > > Palestine and the world stand in solidarity of the brave > > > > > > > > > > > and courageous 1.5 > > > > > > > > > > > million Gazan polulation who are challenging the > > > > > > > > > > > collective might of the > > > > > > > > > > > Israeli and American warmachine. > > > > > > > > > > > > Clearly Hamas and the Palestinian National resistance has > > > > > > > > > > > triumphed and the > > > > > > > > > > > Zionist colonial project of genocidal ethnic cleansing > > > > > > > > > > > has once again been > > > > > > > > > > > vanquished. Palestine in 2009 and Lebanon 2006 have > > > > > > > > > > > forever shattered the > > > > > > > > > > > myth of Israeli military supremacy and have proved that > > > > > > > > > > > the Palestinain > > > > > > > > > > > resistance that stands at the vanguard of the global > > > > > > > > > > > resistance to > > > > > > > > > > > US-Zionist Imperialism will ultimately suceed to create > > > > > > > > > > > an Independent state > > > > > > > > > > > of Palestinen with Jerusalem as its capital. > > > > > > > > > > > > We also salute the people across the world who took to > > > > > > > > > > > the streets and > > > > > > > > > > > besieged their governments. We also salute the rising > > > > > > > > > > > tide of global Jewry > > > > > > > > > > > against the Jewish Zionist counterparts. This struggle > > > > > > > > > > > will prove critical > > > > > > > > > > > for the just resolution of the Palestine - Israel > > > > > > > > > > > conflict. We need to stand > > > > > > > > > > > in solidarity with the Jewish people as they join the > > > > > > > > > > > struggle against > > > > > > > > > > > Zionist Imperialism. > > > > > > > > > > > > We also salute the leadership of South America lead by > > > > > > > > > > > Chavez of Venezuela > > > > > > > > > > > and Morales of Bolivia for taking a clear position > > > > > > > > > > > against Israel, unlike > > > > > > > > > > > the collaborator regimes of Saudi Arabia, Egypt and > > > > > > > > > > > Jordan, we must add. The > > > > > > > > > > > anger of the Arab street, social and political movements > > > > > > > > > > > will lead to > > > > > > > > > > > democratic revolutions that will soon sweep away these > > > > > > > > > > > dictators and > > > > > > > > > > > monarchs. > > > > > > > > > > > > With Israel having lost both the strategic and moral war, > > > > > > > > > > > the Zionists will > > > > > > > > > > > resort to even more desperate measures. The "Shoah" > > > > > > > > > > > promised by the Israeli > > > > > > > > > > > leadership is still a possibility. For the larger agenda > > > > > > > > > > > of total ethnic > > > > > > > > > > > cleansing, the Zionists need a larger war that will > > > > > > > > > > > envelope both West Asia > > > > > > > > > > > and the South Asian nations. In the absence of a larger > > > > > > > > > > > war theatre, without > > > > > > > > > > > the direct involvement of the US and NATO, Israel cannot > > > > > > > > > > > succeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > And thus the coming war on Iran !! > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to see the growing tensions between India and > > > > > > > > > > > Pakistan that are > > > > > > > > > > > being fanned by the Imperial powers in this light as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > The patriotic people of both India and Pakistan can > > > > > > > > > > > together avert a global > > > > > > > > > > > catastrophe if we refuse to be drawn in to the agenda of > > > > > > > > > > > nationalist > > > > > > > > > > > jingoism and war mongering. > > > > > > > > > > > > We the People of Asia need to stand as one, to defeat the > > > > > > > > > > > designs of both > > > > > > > > > > > the Israeli European colonial power and that of the US > > > > > > > > > > > and the EU. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a both a time of sorrow and triumph. Sorrow > > > > > > > > > > > because of the deaths > > > > > > > > > > > of thousands of children and a sense of triumph because > > > > > > > > > > > of the victory of > > > > > > > > > > > the Palestinian resistance. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes the souls of the children and resistance fighters of > > > > > > > > > > > the Warsaw ghetto > > > > > > > > > > > and found a new voice and have been resurrected in Gaza. > > > > > > > > > > > And with > > > > > > > > > > > resurrection, comes a new life and a new will to struggle > > > > > > > > > > > and to change the > > > > > > > > > > > world. > > > > > > > > > > > > Long Live Palestine !! > > > > > > > > > > > > Towards a Global Intifada !! > > > > > > > > > > > > Feroze Mithiborwala, Kishore Jagtap, Varsha V V, Sayeed > > > > > > > > > > > Khan, Amol Madame, > > > > > > > > > > > Chetna Birje, Arif Kapadia, Reshma Jatap, Afaq Azad, > > > > > > > > > > > Irfan Mulla, Inayat > > > > > > > > > > > Akhtar, Mulniwasi Mala, Jyoti Badekar, Jagdish Nagarkar, > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav Karia, > > > > > > > > > > > Avinash Kamble, Harshavardhan Vartak > > ... > > read more �- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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