The gold standard of debate for the Left -- personal insult is at play here... Do you claim Hamas won by a majority vote???
1/2 of the seat are decided by "elected by relative majority vote in multi-member constituencies"... Hamas disciplined its members to vote for the same folks, The PLO did not... Now unless you can prove otherwise, you might consider WHO the readers consider the "pathetic mindless, retarded imbecile"... Me who provides facts or you who provides name calling... http://www.electionguide.org/country.php?ID=166 On Jan 21, 3:37 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[email protected]> wrote: > You are a pathetic mindless, retarded imbecile. > > On Jan 21, 3:06 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Look at the electoral mechanics of the Gaza election... Hamas won a > > majority of the legislative seats with a 40+% minority vote... There > > were a significant number of "at-large" seats which Hamas voters voted > > in disipline while the PLO voter split their votes... Second, there > > are many who want to believe Hamas really is not a terrorist group and > > does NOT meant what it says... > > > On Jan 19, 8:03 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > That's an easy answer. So what did the destruction in Iraq have to do > > > with 9-11? If terrorists want to take on military powers that's their > > > choice, isn't it? Just what did the Gaza Palestinians think they were > > > electing? > > > > On Jan 19, 6:47 pm, lef <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > This war has nothing to do with Hamas firing rockets. An Israeli is > > > > more likely to die from a lightning strike than a rocket. It's just a > > > > proxy, part of the election campaign in Israel. > > > > > On 19 Jan, 23:29, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > You must have rocks in your head, mikey. Whatever Israel is doing, war > > > > > crimes or not, is in an effort to stop the rocket fire by Palestinians > > > > > into their cities. All they have to do to get Israel out is to stop > > > > > firing the rockets. Personally, I think these Palestinians are > > > > > retards. Even if they didn't like the conditions in Gaza during the > > > > > cease fire it A) wasn't all Israel's fault and B) is certainly better > > > > > than having Israel tear your country up trying to get some nutbags to > > > > > stop firing rockets. > > > > > > On Jan 19, 2:25 pm, "liberal mike532 !" <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > sure as soon as the jews stop commiting war crimes > > > > > > > On Jan 19, 9:31 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Then focus your ire on Hamas' desire to fire rockets into Israel > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > palestinians, or to use suicide bombers... Furhter Hamas is > > > > > > > failing at governing Gaza and as a government it is NOT a bunch of > > > > > > > cute and cuddlely Freedom Fighters who kill folks you hate... > > > > > > > > On Jan 19, 3:25 am, "liberal mike532 !" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > i don't care about their religious or political doctrines or > > > > > > > > differences . and in fact think there are no " good guys " in > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > dispute ! my only concern is stopping the war crimes being > > > > > > > > committed > > > > > > > > by both parties . > > > > > > > > > On Jan 18, 7:30 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > If you do not consider the various Intifadas, > > > > > > > > > political/religious > > > > > > > > > doctrines, constitutions calling for the end of Israel and > > > > > > > > > the Jews a > > > > > > > > > war crime, I would be interested in knowing what you do > > > > > > > > > recognize as > > > > > > > > > such? Hitler was also very clear about his intentions in > > > > > > > > > Europe in the > > > > > > > > > '30's as was the Ottoman Empire and other empires/nations. > > > > > > > > > You have > > > > > > > > > Saddam supporting suicide bombers with cash and the Saudis > > > > > > > > > raising > > > > > > > > > money for the Palestinians (also their ill-paid, ill-treated > > > > > > > > > laborers) > > > > > > > > > with telethons, Al-Jezeera, Egypt turning a blind eye to the > > > > > > > > > tunnels > > > > > > > > > that funnel rockets and weapons. The irony is that all these > > > > > > > > > nations- > > > > > > > > > including Iran- used Jews to their benefit during their > > > > > > > > > histories. > > > > > > > > > Britain defeated Napoleon with Jewish money- the Louisiana > > > > > > > > > Purchase > > > > > > > > > was small change. And that is just the beginning... > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 18, 4:04 am, "liberal mike532 !" > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > the Jews must stop committing war crimes against the > > > > > > > > > > Palestinians ! > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 18, 4:02 am, "Manoj Padhi" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/18/israel.gaza/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > At 2 a.m. Sunday, Israel > > > > > > > > > > > <http://topics.cnn.com/topics/israel> declared a > > > > > > > > > > > cease-fire in Gaza. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert > > > > > > > > > > > said Israel was > > > > > > > > > > > prepared to respond if Hamas militants continue fighting > > > > > > > > > > > in Gaza. > > > > > > > > > > > > "If foes decide to continue to fight against us, then we > > > > > > > > > > > will be ready and > > > > > > > > > > > we shall consider ourselves justified in replying," he > > > > > > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hamas leaders responded, saying they did not consider > > > > > > > > > > > Olmert's declaration a > > > > > > > > > > > cease-fire as long as Israeli troops remain in the > > > > > > > > > > > Palestinian territory. > > > > > > > > > > > > Where is the withdrawal ? Where is the victory of > > > > > > > > > > > Palestinians ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps, Mr. Feroze Mithiborwala and Ghulam Muhammed have > > > > > > > > > > > even latest > > > > > > > > > > > information than CNN !! > > > > > > > > > > > > How come HAMAs - *the mice*, win against mighty Israel - > > > > > > > > > > > *The Elephant* ? > > > > > > > > > > > Even after 1000+ losses, the moral of the jihadi mice is > > > > > > > > > > > still high. Looks > > > > > > > > > > > like they need few more hammar shots. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please be assured that HAMAs can't smuggle rockets > > > > > > > > > > > through Egypt as US will > > > > > > > > > > > be supervising those transit routes;will also provide > > > > > > > > > > > training to Egyptian > > > > > > > > > > > police. When there is no more rocket left , How Hamas > > > > > > > > > > > 'the mice' will play > > > > > > > > > > > hide&seek jihad ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Any way.. good luck to Hamas and its supporters as their > > > > > > > > > > > luck has run out .. > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoj Padhi > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 2:39 AM, ghulammuhammed3 > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > A W A M I B H A R A T > > > > > > > > > > > > > The victory of the Palestinian Resistance & Israel's > > > > > > > > > > > > unilateral > > > > > > > > > > > > withdrawal > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Palestinian Resistance has been victorious whilst > > > > > > > > > > > > the Israeli Nazi army > > > > > > > > > > > > withdraws in ignominy and global wrath. The People of > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaza have withstood > > > > > > > > > > > > the F-16's, Helicopter gunships, tanks, ships and > > > > > > > > > > > > phosphorous attacks and > > > > > > > > > > > > have done so with extraordinary courage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > All that Israel achieved was the wanton destruction & > > > > > > > > > > > > death of children and > > > > > > > > > > > > civilians and residential neighbourhoods that included > > > > > > > > > > > > schools, hospitals, > > > > > > > > > > > > government buildings as well that of the United > > > > > > > > > > > > Nations. More than 1200 dead > > > > > > > > > > > > and 5000 seriously injured by the mercenary Israeli > > > > > > > > > > > > army. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The resistance led by Hamas still stands in defiance > > > > > > > > > > > > and the People of > > > > > > > > > > > > Palestine and the world stand in solidarity of the > > > > > > > > > > > > brave and courageous 1.5 > > > > > > > > > > > > million Gazan polulation who are challenging the > > > > > > > > > > > > collective might of the > > > > > > > > > > > > Israeli and American warmachine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clearly Hamas and the Palestinian National resistance > > > > > > > > > > > > has triumphed and the > > > > > > > > > > > > Zionist colonial project of genocidal ethnic cleansing > > > > > > > > > > > > has once again been > > > > > > > > > > > > vanquished. Palestine in 2009 and Lebanon 2006 have > > > > > > > > > > > > forever shattered the > > > > > > > > > > > > myth of Israeli military supremacy and have proved that > > > > > > > > > > > > the Palestinain > > > > > > > > > > > > resistance that stands at the vanguard of the global > > > > > > > > > > > > resistance to > > > > > > > > > > > > US-Zionist Imperialism will ultimately suceed to create > > > > > > > > > > > > an Independent state > > > > > > > > > > > > of Palestinen with Jerusalem as its capital. > > > > > > > > > > > > > We also salute the people across the world who took to > > > > > > > > > > > > the streets and > > > > > > > > > > > > besieged their governments. We also salute the rising > > > > > > > > > > > > tide of global Jewry > > > > > > > > > > > > against the Jewish Zionist counterparts. This struggle > > > > > > > > > > > > will prove critical > > > > > > > > > > > > for the just resolution of the Palestine - Israel > > > > > > > > > > > > conflict. We need to stand > > > > > > > > > > > > in solidarity with the Jewish people as they join the > > > > > > > > > > > > struggle against > > > > > > > > > > > > Zionist Imperialism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > We also salute the leadership of South America lead by > > > > > > > > > > > > Chavez of Venezuela > > > > > > > > > > > > and Morales of Bolivia for taking a clear position > > > > > > > > > > > > against Israel, unlike > > > > > > > > > > > > the collaborator regimes of Saudi Arabia, Egypt and > > > > > > > > > > > > Jordan, we must add. The > > > > > > > > > > > > anger of the Arab street, social and political > > > > > > > > > > > > movements will lead to > > > > > > > > > > > > democratic revolutions that will soon sweep away these > > > > > > > > > > > > dictators and > > > > > > > > > > > > monarchs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Israel having lost both the strategic and moral > > > > > > > > > > > > war, the Zionists will > > > > > > > > > > > > resort to even more desperate measures. The "Shoah" > > > > > > > > > > > > promised by the Israeli > > > > > > > > > > > > leadership is still a possibility. For the larger > > > > > > > > > > > > agenda of total ethnic > > > > > > > > > > > > cleansing, the Zionists need a larger war that will > > > > > > > > > > > > envelope both West Asia > > > > > > > > > > > > and the South Asian nations. In the absence of a larger > > > > > > > > > > > > war theatre, without > > > > > > > > > > > > the direct involvement of the US and NATO, Israel > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot succeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > And thus the coming war on Iran !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to see the growing tensions between India and > > > > > > > > > > > > Pakistan that are > > > > > > > > > > > > being fanned by the Imperial powers in this light as > > > > > > > > > > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The patriotic people of both India and Pakistan can > > > > > > > > > > > > together avert a global > > > > > > > > > > > > catastrophe if we refuse to be drawn in to the agenda > > > > > > > > > > > > of nationalist > > > > > > > > > > > > jingoism and war mongering. > > > > > > > > > > > > > We the People of Asia need to stand as one, to defeat > > > > > > > > > > > > the designs of both > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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