Removed from the homes??? The reason for fleeing were mixed, as was the Jewish removal from Arab lands during that same period... One key difference is Israel went about to absorb their refugees, while the Arab Countries (a European imposed map exercise onto the Ottoman Empire with the exceptions of Turkey and Saudi Arabia) refused to absorb theirs...
Do Jewish Syrians have the "Right to Return"... I suspect Syria would say no... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus I also suspect my POV concerning Palestine is far more nuanced and complexly layered than yours... But many Friends of the PLO and Hamas enjoy making the claim that if you do not agree with them, you see the world in Black and White... Further, many if not most PLO and Hamas leaders still are seeking a one-state Palestine sans Jews... Now if you look at Radical Islam, Islamics are fighting folks of other religions in Kashmir, Central Asia, the Balkians, Chechnya, Kenya, Spain -- in fact everywhere where Islam once ruled -- "Once Islam always Islam"... If Christian applied that standard, Moslems should be booted out of all of North Africa, Egypt, the ME... Why is Christian Crusaders are to be condemned but Moselm Jihadists are not??? There are of the same coin... On Jan 24, 7:04 am, charles <[email protected]> wrote: > Italian public opinion does not necessarily represent Europe! > Besides, I have read the Hamas Charter and there is nothing hateful > about it. They are and have been all along at war with Israel because > they were removed from their homes and land and deposited out there in > the desert. Don't you know the history of this mess? They want the > right to return. They feel a responsibility for all of Islam to > defend its second most sacred place to Muslims, Jersalem. > > Possibly, you see the world as divided into "good" and "evil." This > is simplistic and has nothing to do with liberal or conservative. It > is simply "religion-think," irrational, ignorance, and blatant > prejudice. > > charleshttp://atheistic-science.com > > On Jan 16, 9:59 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The Ideological Era that anyone who oppose Western Imperialism had to > > be better is over... Even your Italian brethren sees the error of > > this logic now... I will suggest that the Left in this Country ALSO > > crossed the line in uncivil and hateful speech over and over the last > > 8 years... In the end, their Ideology and Urban Myth history will > > also be rejected... > > >http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/01/italian-parliamentarians-ra... > > > >>> This is an episode of the attack agains the western world, and Iran has > > >>> a lot to do with it. > > > The change of attitude is great: the dictatorial religious nature of > > Hamas and the democratic, civilized nature of Israel are seen face to > > face for what they are at least by the European elite at large, dead > > and wounded notwithstanding, and there rises an identification with > > Israel against a regime that uses human shields and promises > > slaughters of Jews in its charter. > > > What happens today, at least in Italy, is the defeat and fall of the > > leftist ideologies: ideology has been the fig leaf that has allowed to > > justify all the most violent crimes and most disgusting verbal > > attacks. If Arafat launched the terrorist Intifada, if he promoted the > > martyrdom of children in public speeches, the ideologists were ready > > to justify him with the issues of occupation, the Palestinian misery > > and loss of any hope. Not the same with Hamas. History, in Italy, has > > brought to a profound crisis the ideology of revolution and the > > justification of any cruel attack against a pretended unjust > > imperialist order. That time is in good part over, nobody will see > > Hamas as the resolution of the problem and not as the problem itself. > > I also think that the word "peace" has lost that healing meaning that > > it had until yesterday. The new non-ideological point of view sees > > that there is no peace when one of the contenders doesn't want it, and > > that even if the world in the short run asks for a truce, in the long > > run requests a defeat of Hamas. > > > Well, yesterday night many people, Ministers and Members of > > Parliament, composed a very new, interesting puzzle of opinions. I > > think that when you are not overwhelmed by exotic thirdworldism, the > > images of children educated as hate machines, the speeches of jihad > > leaders, from Ahmadinejad to Nasrallah, to Hanje, that deny the > > holocaust and promise death to Jewish and Christians too, have on us a > > result of great disgust. Westerners, thanks God, can still be > > disgusted by an uncivilized level of political speech. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
