If it was you would condemn Hamas while you condemn Israel... You do not... One existential problem found in the "Peace Movement" is their absolute demand one side stop fighting -- in effect demanding that that side practice no self defense, or limited self defense even as the other sides publicly states and acts on the declaration of killing their opponent...
The Peace Movement always has had few answers for the question "what do you do when one or both sides do NOT want peace and are willing to die in that cause?" Your posts consistently ignore the nature and character of Hamas stated ends -- the destruction of Israel.... And that my pseudo Peace friend ensures MORE war and violence... On Jan 17, 3:11 am, "liberal mike532 !" <[email protected]> wrote: > jgg truth ,justice and compasion ! are exactly what i am a bout the > world must stop and then punish those commiting war crimes . end of > story ! > > On Jan 16, 12:36 pm, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > That Mike IS WHY YOU ARE NOT ABOUT PEACE... Your verbal attack dog > > yapping are about a bitter ideology. Let me repeat, you are not > > about TRUTH, JUSTICE, PEACE, or COMPASSION, but a mindless ranting of > > 1960's symbolism which in the end has seen it Elvis leave its house > > long ago... > > > On Jan 16, 10:54 am, "liberal mike532 !" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > why would i care what hamas's Ideology is ? > > > it is the Jew's who are committing war crimes ! > > > > On Jan 16, 9:59 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The Ideological Era that anyone who oppose Western Imperialism had to > > > > be better is over... Even your Italian brethren sees the error of > > > > this logic now... I will suggest that the Left in this Country ALSO > > > > crossed the line in uncivil and hateful speech over and over the last > > > > 8 years... In the end, their Ideology and Urban Myth history will > > > > also be rejected... > > > > >http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/01/italian-parliamentarians-ra... > > > > > >>> This is an episode of the attack agains the western world, and Iran > > > > >>> has a lot to do with it. > > > > > The change of attitude is great: the dictatorial religious nature of > > > > Hamas and the democratic, civilized nature of Israel are seen face to > > > > face for what they are at least by the European elite at large, dead > > > > and wounded notwithstanding, and there rises an identification with > > > > Israel against a regime that uses human shields and promises > > > > slaughters of Jews in its charter. > > > > > What happens today, at least in Italy, is the defeat and fall of the > > > > leftist ideologies: ideology has been the fig leaf that has allowed to > > > > justify all the most violent crimes and most disgusting verbal > > > > attacks. If Arafat launched the terrorist Intifada, if he promoted the > > > > martyrdom of children in public speeches, the ideologists were ready > > > > to justify him with the issues of occupation, the Palestinian misery > > > > and loss of any hope. Not the same with Hamas. History, in Italy, has > > > > brought to a profound crisis the ideology of revolution and the > > > > justification of any cruel attack against a pretended unjust > > > > imperialist order. That time is in good part over, nobody will see > > > > Hamas as the resolution of the problem and not as the problem itself. > > > > I also think that the word "peace" has lost that healing meaning that > > > > it had until yesterday. The new non-ideological point of view sees > > > > that there is no peace when one of the contenders doesn't want it, and > > > > that even if the world in the short run asks for a truce, in the long > > > > run requests a defeat of Hamas. > > > > > Well, yesterday night many people, Ministers and Members of > > > > Parliament, composed a very new, interesting puzzle of opinions. I > > > > think that when you are not overwhelmed by exotic thirdworldism, the > > > > images of children educated as hate machines, the speeches of jihad > > > > leaders, from Ahmadinejad to Nasrallah, to Hanje, that deny the > > > > holocaust and promise death to Jewish and Christians too, have on us a > > > > result of great disgust. Westerners, thanks God, can still be > > > > disgusted by an uncivilized level of political speech.- Hide quoted > > > > text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
