SMR, You are treating this incident, (e.g.; Young Barry Soetero's enrollment in Indonesian Schools) as some kind of big brouhaha, and international news story.
It wasn't. There was no attention paid to Lolo Soetero, (or what ever his name is) and his lovely wife, Ann. They had a kid, they took him to school, they filled out the paperwork; the kid went to school, period. Looking back upon it, they filled out the paperwork in the most expediant manner in order to avoid red tape, and whatever hassles the Indonesian bureaucrats were attempting to put them through. I doubt if there was even a second thought given to it after Lil' Barry was enrolled. I saw a blog last night, where the writer was stating that he had proof that President Obama never had a United States Passport until such time as he was a Legislator in the Illinois Legislature. I never saw the "proof" of this, but if this was the case, and such an allegation could be established, then I think the rest of the missing pieces could be resolved. OR......President Obama could request the "long form vault copy" of his birth certificate, instead of spending the millions of dollars that he has expended to date in order to block the unsealing of his "long form vault copy" birth certificate, and resolve the issue once and for all. I think you and most Americans realize what will most likely happen, if President Obama chooses to unseal the record, or is forced to. It is becoming more and more obvious with each and every law suit and each and every denial by the Obama camp and the DNC. If it continues to rock on, I could imagine some criminal charges surfacing before this is all over. On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:42 AM, smrstrauss <[email protected]> wrote: > > Re: "According to > Indonesian legal experts, it was difficult to enroll non-Indonesian > citizens > in public schooling.' > > Who are these Indonesian "experts?" Are they willing to be quoted by > name? Were they quoted from WND? > > Indonesia was under tight control in 1981, but if you knew the right > people you could get anything done for $$$. > > I find it odd that you do not believe the Indonesian government, but > you do believe Obama's parents. This is surely a reversal. > > Re: "Indonesian law at the time also did not recognize dual > citizenship, meaning > if Obama became Indonesian." > > Certainly. That is why it was difficult to become an Indonesian > citizen. Very DIFFICULT (That is what other Indonesian Law experts > say). So, his parents never even tried to make him a citizen. They > just said that he was. > > Re: "Lolo Soetoro could could have adopted Obama in Hawaii, although > such an > adoption would not have necessarily been recognized by Indonesia.' > > Not likely. Adoptions are not secret in Hawaii, and the records of > them are public documents and are filed at the office of the Lt. Gov > (a Republican), where the files are available to be searched. I > suppose that the McCain and Hillary campaigns would already have > searched there. Possibly Obama was adopted under Indonesian law, but > just using the stepfather's name with the right bribes would have been > sufficient. Remember that Obama's real father was still alive at the > time, and I imagine that even under Indonesian law they would have > wanted some documents from the real father. In fact, it might be > extremely difficult to adopt even if there were documents from Obama > Sr. A lot of countries do not like allowing another man to become > someone's legal father when the real father is still alive. > > Re: "which stipulated any child aged five or > younger adopted by an Indonesian father is immediately granted > Indonesian > citizenship upon completion of the adoption process." > > Yes, but the Indonesian government says that he never was a citizen of > Indonesia. That is a fact. The rest is speculation. Speculation that > he was adopted. Speculation that that was really the law. Speculation > that he had an Indonesian passport. Speculation that he used it. > > We know that he must have had a US passport because he had to get from > Hawaii to Indonesia the first time, and he had to get back from > Indonesia to the USA to go to school, and if he traveled on an > Indonesian passport on that return, he would have had to get a VISA > from the USA, and the records of that visa would still be on file at > the US State Department in Washington. > > We also know that he, and anyone, could travel to Pakistan on a US > passport. > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
