The lagal experts include the written constitution of the nation which FORBIDS foreigners to be enrolled in public school. This was posted and discussed with YOU earlier in this thread. For you to now ask this question is assinine.
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:42 AM, smrstrauss <[email protected]> wrote: > > Re: "According to > Indonesian legal experts, it was difficult to enroll non-Indonesian > citizens > in public schooling.' > > Who are these Indonesian "experts?" Are they willing to be quoted by > name? Were they quoted from WND? > > Indonesia was under tight control in 1981, but if you knew the right > people you could get anything done for $$$. > > I find it odd that you do not believe the Indonesian government, but > you do believe Obama's parents. This is surely a reversal. > > Re: "Indonesian law at the time also did not recognize dual > citizenship, meaning > if Obama became Indonesian." > > Certainly. That is why it was difficult to become an Indonesian > citizen. Very DIFFICULT (That is what other Indonesian Law experts > say). So, his parents never even tried to make him a citizen. They > just said that he was. And for his "father" to make the claim that a Minor Child is his "son" is sufficient in almost every country in the world EXCEPT Gringolandia. Again you try to apply US standards outside your borders. > > > Re: "Lolo Soetoro could could have adopted Obama in Hawaii, although > such an > adoption would not have necessarily been recognized by Indonesia.' The point is addressed above. For Barry to LEGALLY be Lolos son in Indonesia all it takes is for Lolo, the Mother to say he is and for the child to recognize him as such. Even in the US for a minor child to be mine all that it takes is the mother naming me as so and no denial on my part. If the Bio dad shows up later and the mother and I are divorced they do not change the support payments to him.. they are mine and so id the kid. > > > Not likely. Adoptions are not secret in Hawaii, and the records of > them are public documents and are filed at the office of the Lt. Gov > (a Republican), where the files are available to be searched. I > suppose that the McCain and Hillary campaigns would already have > searched there. Possibly Obama was adopted under Indonesian law, but > just using the stepfather's name with the right bribes would have been > sufficient. Remember that Obama's real father was still alive at the > time, and I imagine that even under Indonesian law they would have > wanted some documents from the real father. In fact, it might be > extremely difficult to adopt even if there were documents from Obama > Sr. A lot of countries do not like allowing another man to become > someone's legal father when the real father is still alive. > > Re: "which stipulated any child aged five or > younger adopted by an Indonesian father is immediately granted > Indonesian > citizenship upon completion of the adoption process." > > Yes, but the Indonesian government says that he never was a citizen of > Indonesia. That is a fact. The rest is speculation. Speculation that > he was adopted. Speculation that that was really the law. Speculation > that he had an Indonesian passport. Speculation that he used it. Mere acceptance to attend public school combined with Constitutional law says they are wrong. DOCUMENTS exist that prove both of these points. These physical proofs far outweigh you garnered "OPINIONS" > > > We know that he must have had a US passport because he had to get from > Hawaii to Indonesia the first time, and he had to get back from > Indonesia to the USA to go to school, and if he traveled on an > Indonesian passport on that return, he would have had to get a VISA > from the USA, and the records of that visa would still be on file at > the US State Department in Washington. That is absolutely false.... In those days children travelled on the MOTHERS passport. I did this as a child until I was 13 (that equals 26 cross atlantic travels. and covers the sixties) > > > We also know that he, and anyone, could travel to Pakistan on a US > passport. No, we do not. There is "0" proof he had one. If there is proof please produce it and I'll send you 500 USD. > > > > > > -- Mark M. Kahle, , www.filacoffee.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
